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OK thanks guys - looks like I definitely should try and sort out an Orange 5 test ride. Cwmcarn would be a good place. I wasn't going to bother because I couldn't imagine that it would be good enough going uphill. Round here, I do seem to be spending most of my time climbing... doesn't take long to get down. I rode a trek fuel and that definitely was good for climbing.
im an orange five pro owner, love my five.... yep the front forks dont lock out (which can be a drawback but ive learnt to sit more forward in the saddle on those 'steep' climbs..and lets face it the 'home' of singletrack area has plenty of god dam hills...lol not ridden a zesty ever so cant comment... but the 'five' seems to be a good all rounder when it comes to mountain biking..lots of yehaas and whoo hooos...