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Anyone here use / know where to get a zero mm stem?
Saw this which looks awesome but is £££ and out of stock: https://analogcycles.com/product/discord-components-creemee-stem/
Turning my old Zaskar into a gravel bike / turbo trainer machine. It’s always been slightly too big and drop bars push it over the edge.
Also looking at potentially fitting a forward seat post.
Anyone else breathing new life into old frames? I know I should just buy a frame that fits but I’ve got love for this frame...
Not particularly useful feedback, but that looks a bit minging and isn't helped by some of the ridiculous steerer lengths it seems to be being used on on their website.
flat bar gravel / turbo machine. Don't get one of those and definitely don't spend 200 bucks on it.
Apart from the looks, isn't that going to make your steering twitchy as hell?
Apart from the looks, isn’t that going to make your steering twitchy as hell?
On the hoods or drops, the OP's hands will still be well forward of the steerer, so that won't necessarily be the case (I can't say it'll be fine either, though!) There are plenty of heavily-swept bars which put the hands well-back too.
I'm not aware of anything like above, but a cheaper way of trying it out (albeit even more ugly!) might be to use something like this:
...to shift the bars back rather than up. If the geometery works, then it might be worth considering spending more on a real zero length stem.
Ultimately, though, it might be cheaper to just get another frame.
I think this is nonsense, but it's a good excuse to listen to Dangerzone.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/exploring-the-relationship-between-handlebar-vs-stem-length.html
I used to use a mondraker / onoff 10mm stem.
I now run a 30mm(ish) stem and find it's fine. i wasnt sure if i'd like the 1omm stem so i left a few spacers below it. It kep the bars high and wasnt the best looker. I read that when Mondraker were experimenting with their forward geometry they tried running negative stems as well.
It was always odd seeing the headtube badge and top race while riding.
When I saw the thread title, I immediately thought of the Analog stem. As far as I understood, stem length on its own has little bearing on steering feel?
I think there are some 0mm BMX flatland stems,but you would also need 7/8" bars.
Azonic used to do one called the Ground Zero about 20 years ago
When I saw the thread title, I immediately thought of the Analog stem. As far as I understood, stem length on its own has little bearing on steering feel?
Short stem makes it feel twitchy, hence it's used to offset the slack head angles (and conveniently if you lengthen the top tube proportionally it adds to that).
I've got some fake Jones bars, those with a short stem and 55mm offset forks is downright weird because your hands sweep in a completely different arc to what you're used to. Much more like riding a motorbike. Which raised an interesting question in my mind, has anyone significantly played with motorcycle geometry in the last 35+ years (i.e. the modern monoshock, aluminium engine block era). As that seems to have stuck with the same road bikes have this geometry, MX bikes have that geometry sort of dogma that mountain bikes had up until 10 years ago.
Turning my old Zaskar into a gravel bike / turbo trainer machine. It’s always been slightly too big and drop bars push it over the edge.
Fit flat bars and a short stem.
Azonic used to do one called the Ground Zero about 20 years ago
Marzocchi made one as well but you would need some Shiver DCs or Jr/Super T's to stick it on. Let's face it, it can't turn into any more of a lash up 😉