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Looking at these at Rose Bikes for Kevins birthday but the levers are the wrong way round. Can they be mounted upside down or do you have to swap them over on the hoses.
Just fit the handlebars back to front.
Only if done with German tools.
they need the hoses swapping - 5 minute job... easier if you buy the bleed bucket (which you'll want anyway for normal servicing/rebleeds)
Dave
Does not require bleeding - really simple job - easier with someone helping.
Just un-do the tubing nut at the lever end on both with the caliper dangling down and swap over - job done! 🙂
If all you are doing is swapping the hoses they won't need a bleed and it really is a five minute job.
If you are shortening them too you can normally get away with not bleeding them too but you need a replacemnt olive and barb and the hose clamp. These are normally included when you buy the brakes but its worth checking to be sure.
Again its not a hard job
Tracey, pretty sure the hoses need to be swapped - they're not like avids i.e. levers mounted on any side - I believe its quite a straighforward job
Have you asked Rose to do if for you? If not give that a bash first.
If you are shortening them too you can normally get away with not bleeding them too but you need a replacemnt olive and barb and the hose clamp. These are normally included when you buy the brakes but its worth checking to be sure.
the olives and barbs are included
If you buy themn from Rose I can confirm that they come with spare olives and inserts, as well as a yellow spacer to keep the pistons apart whilst bleeding them witht eh pads removed. . You'll need to shorten them anyway, so just swap the levers over as you do so. Plenty of guides, but it really is a five minute job once you've measured carefully!!
The hoses do need to be swapped round but it's a cinch. Shortening them is easy, too - they come with all the bits you need to do it and hte instructions are clear enough.
There is no bigger mechanical klutz on earth than me. If I can do it, anyone can.
Thanks
Someone wrote a really good guide to swapping the hoses over on here. It involved removing the pads and pumping the pistons out a fair bit and then taking the hose off at the lever end - doing the chop/olives/swap bit and reconnecting correct way round. Then you just push the pistons back in and any air in the hose simply travels up to the mastercylinder.
If all you are doing is swapping the hoses they won't need a bleed and it really is a five minute job.If you are shortening them too you can normally get away with not bleeding them too but you need a replacemnt olive and barb and the hose clamp. These are normally included when you buy the brakes but its worth checking to be sure.
Again its not a hard job
This is what I did with a pair of the SLX ones.
Recently did my non-german ones ie just shortening and even though i spilt a bit of oil, they still didn't need bleeding after. Getting the new barb in without a vice was a pain, but following the official instructions, it was otherwise no problems. If i recall, seems making sure the caliper pistons are pushed out to start with means any air can be taken out when pushing the calipers back in while opening the oil bleed port a tad.
Is it worth going with the Icetech rotors and will his existing Hayes V8 adaptors fit for the 203mm rotors
I run Ice-Tech rotors and find them really good - amazing power! 🙂
Your Avid Rotor would work fine.
I find my XT's very powerful with 160mm Avid G3 rotors and have no issues with heat.
Yeah its pretty easy to swap the hoses, i have a pdf document at home somewhere that explains it well. I wouldn't bother with rose again though, piss poor customer service in my experience.
He ha always run Hayes 9s and has had no problems with them at home or in the Alps. He had his new bike built up with Hayes Stroker Trails using the same V8 rotors and had problems in Les Arcs and in Verbier with the rear pulling to the bars, even after Phil bled them they were not much better. The girls were running the same combo with no problems. My XXs were great.
Just need to get it right for next year and it was Phil that recommended the XT trails
Who else sells them at a good price
all the very cheap places will be back to front as they're mostly Germany-based.
But as alluded to already, even if you buy the UK-handed ones, the hoses (especially the rear one) are crazy long so you'll have to shorten them anyway. What difference does it make if you have to swap the levers over at the same time?