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Evening all,
I'm looking into purchasing some strong but lightweight wheels for my Yeti ASR-5C build.
So far I've 'narrowed it down' to the below:
Fulcrum Red Metal Zero XRP - £720, 1470g
DT Swiss XM 1550 Tricon - £810, 1586g
Mavic Wheels Crossmax SLR - £765, 1440g
So, what are your opinions of the above wheels (what would you choose) and are there any others you'd throw into the mix?
Cheers all,
Ryan
Got some Easton havens, seem quite light, not sure what the weight is, there is also a carbon version for silly money
Ooops, double post
My ASR5 is wearing a pair of crests on pro IIs which I think are hard to beat for the price, ok they're not very bling but you can buy decals if that's your thing 🙂
set of Enve AM rims on Hadleys been on eBay for a couple of weeks, just above a grand with no bids
People really spend this much on a pair of wheels... 😯
Deores on Mavic XM321s
People really spend this much on a pair of wheels...
+1
i'm contemplating a complete road build for about 800.... 😯
I've seen the alloy Easton Havens for £615, and they come in at 1650g. Not bad at all...
Seeing as your dripping with cash why not just plump for CKs on Crests?
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American Classics on Crests. Cheaper and lighter than all your original options.
Or you could have my Pronghorn wheels for £200. 1470g, strong enough to be still running true after done heavy XC use with 14.5 stone me on top, Sapim CXRay spokes, only done about 300 miles in total. 9mm QR though. That's why I'm getting rid.
XM719's on kings, good spokes and some brass nips! Built by wheelcraft...
Slr's are very stiff and unforgiving but spin very nicely. Not tried the others though but have recently bought some crossmax st's. Not quite as bling or ultimately light but feel equally as stiff. And £350 cheaper.
Top Tip - don't spend that much. Get some Pro2 on Crest or Flow.
I've not felt any factory hubs that felt as good as i9. Those on some flows or crests would be pimpier than crossmax imo.
Crossmax SLR is designed and sold as an XC rim, ST is more on the lines of what you're describing...
People really spend this much on a pair of wheels...
very common with road wheels, lots of gucci mtb wheels now available,
There is no need to spend that much, Pro 2 on Crest/Flows.
no need maybe,
but he wants to
theres no point to 99% of what we buy, deore is fine and works, doesnt stop people wanting xtr etc
Not really the same though is it.
Deore is way behind XTR in terms of weight and quality, Hope hoops are possibly better than Easton Havens from what I have read about them, but half the price.
thats a lot of cash for some hoops...
You could very nearly get 3 sets of the higher end Traversees for that much. Not quite as stiff or as light as the Tricons though
Deore is way behind XTR in terms of weight and quality
in the real world can you actually tell when your riding along?
I've not felt any factory hubs that felt as good as i9. Those on some flows or crests would be pimpier than crossmax imo.
This.
I did a build for a guy with some industry 9 crest 29er wheels. They were absolutely bloody gorgeous. They were about 800ish, not sure exactly.
in the real world can you actually tell when your riding along?
Errr, yeah.
The more dosh you spend = the better rider you become!
Untrue, I spent 3.3K & i'm still crap, although I have climbed stuff 've never climbed before, & am loads faster DH.
Crests on Pro 2's BTW.
Errr, yeah.
explain
Hope Pro II on Mavic 521 will cost you less than £300. Strong and light.
Personally I wouldn't spank too much on pair of wheels - rims tend to take a battering from stones and other trail stuff and I'd only be upset that such expensive kit had got dings everywhere...
Pro 2 on 521 is strong but certainly not light, unless your benchmark is downhill wheels... Hope claim 2kg for their 32-spoke builds with sapim db spokes.
ive got Edge on Tune rims, can i tell the difference between them and i guess crest on pro2? probably not
ive got a di2 mech shifting across a SRAM XX block, can i tell the difference between that and a XT, X7 set? probably not
he asked for recommendations on wheelsets around £1k, maybe he wants something different - everyone is recommending a 300 quid wheelset, even a 199 quid superstar wheelset will be good enough, its about how much the guy wants to spend
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I think you will find people are trying save him from making the same mistake you did and spending a load of cash on some wheels, when as mentioned by numerous people aside from me, you can't beat Hope Hoops.
+1 for the hoops got some pro2 sp on 717's for the posh bike and pro2 on 317 for the ss.
They just work!
If you wanna spend that much Industry nine look sweet, can't say what they ride like as i woudn't spend that much doe on wheels but they do look good.
You could look at getting 2 sets of wheels for that money that look different, white/black etc so you can change your bike up a little.
"Hope Pro II on Mavic 521 will cost you less than £300. Strong and light"
Well, the rims aren't light. Granted less heavy than 321's but ..
"you can't beat Hope Hoops"
So long as you are happy with the loud, slowish pickup speed of Pro II hubs of course
And unless you want the more middleground Stans Arch/ArchEX rim (rather than the XCy crest, or the DHy flow)
Similarish to the original 3, how do Easton EA90's/similar stack up?
The Fulcrums are pap and the Mavics though nice are a nightmare to get spares if needed... I had a pair of Crossmax SXs (different i know) which constantly went out of true and even had to have a rim replaced as it split (not warranty). Less than a year with them and I went onto DT EX1750s and they are still kicking ass four years later... Flawless! I may some day transplant some Enve AM rims onto them for a little weight saving, but it's far down my list of priorities. My other two bikes have since been fitted with DT wheels...
Wow, the preachers are out in force! He didn't ask if he should spend that much, he asked for recommendations!
I'd get DT240s on Arch Ex with a spoke of your choice. Or possibly I9s.
Can't comment on the new SLRs but I have Crossmax ST wheels on my Five and I'm very happy with them, the bike gathers speed at such a callosal rate it's incredible and the ride is very sure. One of my mates has an ASR5 with Crosstrails and that feels lovely too. I like the look of them as well.
Wasnt saying he shouldnt spend that much, if he can afford it then good on the lad.
Just seems an awful lot of money, but as someone said, compared to some road bike kit I guess its not.
I'd like to try these Goldtec hubs
I don't like funcy factory special wheelsets as I break stuff. I destroyed a Flow rim on a two week old Hoop wheelset with a stupid mistake... was easy for me to fix as it was simply a rim swap. Had I been using Crossmax or some other exotic wheelset I would have had to send it away for god knows how long. Spend on a good hub, Hope are OK but not great due to internal friction... I always clean out the grease in the freehub and replace with oil so the freewheel spins better and doesn't make the chain slack and prone to jamming between chainstay and tyre. I'd like to try Goldtec but currently I have two pairs of Hope so I can swap them about - one with big tyres for crazy stuff and one with a more xc bent - works for me, ymmv etc.
I have a set of Eason havens in carbon here which I've been thinking of letting go as i don't really have room for the second bike as doing more DH now. Absolutely perfect, in boxes etc and would be in your budget. You can't do better IMHO.
Same bike and I opted for CK hubs on crest rims with sapim bladed spokes. The hubs are a piece of art work and so big and chunky. Just got the tool to service them with so can't wait to start tinkering. I would highly recommend the CK hubs.
Industry Nine hubs are nice, spin really quickly and have amazing pickup but the seals aren't great at coping with British weather so the bearings don't last very long (about 7 months for me). I would also avoid getting wheels with fancy spokes/straight pull etc as they can be an absolute bugger to find spares for. Break a normal spoke anywhere and you can usually get sorted out in any shop (might not be perfect but will get you rolling again) whereas breaking a proprietary spoke could stop your fun altogether.
For me, for that kind of money, I'd be going handbuilt rather than factory and going for either Dt 240 or Chris King hubs built on to either a Crest, Arch EX or even Podium (depending on your planned usage) rim with some DT Supercomp spokes.
I have a set of Eason havens in carbon here which I've been thinking of letting go as i don't really have room for the second bike as doing more DH now. Absolutely perfect, in boxes etc and would be in your budget. You can't do better IMHO.
Ryan - I have a pair of these myself and if you can get them for £1k you really should. They are brilliant. I can't say whether you personally would notice the difference, but given the bike you're riding I am guessing there is a good chance you will.
The ride quality is incredible. The stiffness and lightness of the wheel is most noticeable out of fast berms where there is an incredible 'springiness' to them, almost like you're pushing out of the turn on the rebound of a trampoline except it's not that the wheels are flexing.
I really couldn't care less what anyone else says about what you should or shouldn't do; what's reasonable to spend etc. No, the Carbon Havens are not two and a half times better then the next best alloy version, they are probably only 20-30% better, but they cost what they cost so that's what I paid.
You can get them for £1k that's a freakin steal!
Happy with my I9 enduros, no problems with the bearings after a year either...