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Would you live somewhere where the riding is rubbish?

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Obviously some do....

Personally I'm drawn towards hills, trees and scenery, regardless of biking.

The Derbyshire Dales aren't exactly the Mecca of MTB, but they are decent enough and the Peak is on the doorstep.

I'd really struggle to live somewhere flat and featureless for many reasons, unless I really had to. I think I'd lose my mind if I lived in the flatlands of Lincolnshire/Norfolk or the like.

If you do live somewhere boring, what took you there and what's stopping you leaving. Work, family, you actually like it?


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 10:14 am
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No. In fact, we moved two miles so we could be right next to trails and hills. My mum lives near Epworth, Doncaster, the flatness makes me itch when I’m up there…


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 10:19 am
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I live half way between the Bannau Brecheiniog (Brecon Beacons) and Elan valley (Cwm Elan), amazing riding here straight out of the back door. No amount of pay increase could persuade me to live in a city, or somewhere flat! 


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 10:23 am
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No.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 10:24 am
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I’ve always had the benefit of hills on my doorstep. Never really consciously chosen to live with biking out of the front door as there’s lots of other factors when I’ve moved house but as I’ve always wanted to stay in or around Sheffield where I was born it’s never been an issue. When I travel to the likes of Norfolk though I think I’d get itchy especially in summer. The beach is a good substitute for me but get mobbed when it’s nice (never a problem with my local trails).


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 10:24 am
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My location is intermediate. Less good than where you are but better than many southern counties. I’m an hours ride or 15 min drive from Woburn or Chicksands for actual MTB. Usually I ride from the door. The riding from the door is better than when I lived in Darlington

We moved back south during foot and mouth to be nearer family. I often ponder whether we should be nearer the hills or sea. But I’m getting a bit old for a job change

Being a teacher makes a big difference. We are often away from home 8 weeks a year. I think I slept in 29 different places this year

Here’s yesterday ride for reference

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Posted : 16/12/2023 10:26 am
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20yrs ago I'd have said no way, but now I could easily live in north Norfolk. Lincolnshire not so much (but I've had many a good time on that coast as a kid and adult). Mum and Dad had a chalet in Sutton on Sea when were were growing up so we have a connection to the place.

We'll probably retire to the Lincolnshire coast and trundle up and down the sea front on my pimped up mobility scooter! 🙂


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 10:26 am
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My parents, my sister and her family moved back to Co Donegal last year.  We had the opportunity to join them. One of the (many) reasons we didn’t was the hopeless access situation in Ireland.  


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 10:30 am
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Grew up in Cambridge. My passions were MTB, Surfing and Windsurfing, It was a total nightmare. Suffice to say me and my mates wrote the book on 'the road trip'    Sleeping in car parks was a staple of my youth.

All of us moved away as soon as we could!  One guy moved to Cornwall, another to France - both to follow the endless summer....

I lived in France for a couple of years but ended up back in the UK

Now live in East Sussex about 5 minutes from the South Downs and 20 minutes from the coast. Its not ideal but its a lovely county and there is enough riding and watersports to satisfy me (too old for surfing anyway!).

Retirement plan is Wales or France!


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 10:32 am
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I've lived somewhere rubbish all my life, when i was into kitesurfing the nearest coast was 2hrs away, then I got into biking and the nearest hills were over 2 hrs away. Work/partner/responsibilities meant I couldn't just move to my dream location, just had to make the best of what we had and enjoy the trips to the 'good stuff', on the weekends.<br /><br />Now I spend 2 months of the year in France/Spain/Italy, I ride most days in a lot of epic locations, as well as 2 or 3 other odd weeks of biking trips through the year, kind of evens out the score.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 10:34 am
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Only if the surf was good. 


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 10:36 am
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I do. Pembrokeshire is a great place to live and my wife and I love bringing up our kids here and both have jobs we love.

The riding sucks. I grew up in the NE and went to uni in Bradford. Both places had riding near and at the time I never thought I’d be so far from decent riding.

There is riding here but it’s not great. Brechfa is close-ish and there are some little bits of trails in woods and in the Preselis that are fun when conditions allow. Which is rarely!

Somehow I’ve been here 25 years and it’s great but that doesn’t mean that I don’t dream of rocky, all weather trails in my backyard though…


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 10:36 am
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No. When we bought our house in 1990 one of the factors was we could mtb from the door.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 10:41 am
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I don’t think so. Even before I mountain biked on proper hills, I was always happier in hilly places. Hill, woods, enough people for there to be trail-building and riding groups happening, and if there’s enough people around that means there’s people to make music with and other culture happening.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 10:44 am
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The military dictates where I live, and at the moment that place is Colchester. On the face of it, terrible for riding. But with a bit of effort I've found some reasonable places to MTB, plus the gravel riding is pretty good. I'm finding I get out more often now, albeit not in the Dales/Lakes that I used to. I think there's good riding everywhere, you just need to adjust what that type of riding is to suit. That said, I know I'm moving away in 18 months time. My answer might be different if id been here 25 years!


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 10:53 am
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No. When we were looking to move house 10-11 years ago we were originally thinking of NW Scotland but access to lots of biking/walking trails was one of the major factors in us choosing Aviemore instead.

Edit: I guess there may come a time when I don't care so much.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 10:58 am
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Depends how fortunate you are!!!

My regulator was seeing a guy in Baldwin Street (Bristol) lying on the pavement with a single blanket thrown over him in the rain and it was Winter.

To this day, I wish I did something to help. But my excuse was I just left the eye hospital and was in pain. Glad to get home... Still haunts.

Especially other people just stepping over him.

I was on the other side of the road.

And we are worried about insto riding from our front doors 🙁


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 11:01 am
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Nope


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 11:02 am
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The military dictates where I live, and at the moment that place is Colchester.

I feel your pain good sir, I've had that pleasure and up the road in Suffolk.

Absolute killer. Hopefully somewhere hilly next posting!


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 11:07 am
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Moved from Calderdale to Manchester. Kill me now. (only joking) the riding from the door is dull, although the TPT runs practically past my front door, so I can go either way on that, and on a nice sunny day, riding to the coast at Southport has its own charm. I'm less than an hour from Peaks, Calderdale, and less than 2 hours away from the Lakes and North Wales, though so cannot 'protest too much' 


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 11:08 am
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I’m in Norwich, so it’s pretty flat, but we make the most of what we have and I’m lucky enough to be two minutes from countryside and woodland. I’d love to be nearer proper hills, but my mum lives near by and I wouldn’t feel comfortable moving away while she’s still alive. Work and most of our friends are here too, and the older I get the more nervous I am about completely starting afresh away from a network of people and things I know.

On the plus side, I really do appreciate a hill when I encounter one.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 11:17 am
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No, we are on the north east side of Nottingham for many reasons.

One is it's an 8min bike ride to some mountain biking in the woods.

South east side of town would be a 20 min drive to anything other than flat river bank rides


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 11:21 am
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You quickly learn to make the most of it.

"Rubbish" places.
I live in the Thames valley.
I spent about a year in total in Cambridgeshire.

"Supposedly great" places.
I used to live in Sheffield.
I spent a couple of years in Teesside/North Yorkshire

Upsides of my current location, I live 15 minutes from a well paid job that keeps me in bikes, classic cars and and all the fun stuff that makes like worth living without having to drive anywhere.

The office cycling club does lunchtime rides, and there's a huge network of bridleways to enjoy on the gravel bike from woodland (gravel bike) tech, to "The Farley Hill Mini Epic" which is only about 17 miles but everyone we take on kt agrees it feels like a "propper" ride with everything from long dusty farm tracks, grassy fields, a techy climb, and a few miles of trails, and we can do it any day of the week, all year. We also do longer rides because the network of trails and paths goes on seemingly forever in all directions. If I want to jump in a car or train there's the Surrey Hills, Swinley, Chilterns, etc. And the Chilterns road riding is fantastic.

Cambridgeshire, similar I could go out the door and explore quiet roads and gravel tracks for seemingly ever.

Sheffield - it's great but to actually get anywhere takes 40-60 minutes ride each way to Stanage or Warncliffe. So a lot of people drove.

North Yorkshire. Guisborough was great for access to the moors, but again you're not going to ride that every day/week without getting bored, like Sheffield the first/last hour of every ride ended up being the same just getting over the first two hills.

I guess you get into a discussion as to what constitutes rubbish. Quality or Quantity? Is London rubbish, you've got a good network of cycle infrastructure, lots of road clubs, and trains that can take you to good riding anywhere in the country. So even that wouldn't be "Rubbish".


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 11:29 am
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I think I’d lose my mind if I lived in the flatlands of Lincolnshire/Norfolk or the like.

Norfolk is not flat. Let's just get that out of the way. Yes you won't find any mountains, but there are loads of hills. Try riding the Peddars way, then come back and tell me about flat.

I live in Cambridgeshire.

Cambridgeshire, similar I could go out the door and explore quiet roads and gravel tracks for seemingly ever.

This. I can ride from my front door (*) and cycle fifty miles and barely see any cars other than the ones far below me on the A14 as I cross over the bridge towards Hilton.

(*) Assuming my dog will let me, and not guilt me into taking him for a walk instead.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 11:41 am
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No!


 
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We used to live in a normal house close to all amenities etc. For the last 15 years we've lived in a stone heat sink with no central heating (no access for tanker), no mains water, a rough steep track for access, and if you run out of milk it's a 45 minute round trip in the car. Nearest supermarket is an hour each way. In the winter I find myself waist deep in freezing water fixing the water supply, walking half a mile up a 1 in 4 hill if its icy, and if I don't go out in the storm for firewood, we get hypothermia in the living room.

Every morning I get up and stand on the doorstep to remind myself of just how fortunate I am. Regrets? Not for one second. Maybe the only one is I've ruined myself for living anywhere normal ever again now I'm hefted to this land...

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Riding in the Howgills out of the door, and the Dales and Lakes not far away ain't too shonky either...


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 11:52 am
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My parents, my sister and her family moved back to Co Donegal last year.  We had the opportunity to join them. One of the (many) reasons we didn’t was the hopeless access situation in Ireland.

The thing about the access laws in Ireland is that we all ignore them and build \ ride whereever we want.

I'm always surprised how compliant people in the UK England are.

I live 20 mins cycle from the Dublin mountains (sic: hills) where there's loads of trails and 30 mins cycle from the GAP (www.thegap.ie) bike park. Consider myself very lucky, would find it hard to move to where I'd have to load up the car to go mountain biking.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 11:52 am
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Yes. I live on the SW outskirts of Manchester and I ****in hate it. A few dogshit infested muddy paths nearby. Drive 45 minutes to Disley for something slightly better, or 70 minutes to the Peak. To endure endless tedious potato infested mud schlepped ditches.
Or 100 minutes to some decent stuff in the lakes, but just too far for a day trip on a regular basis.
To get to the really good riding in the Cairngorms is a solid 6 hour drive...

Came here for missus' work which since pissed off to Cambridge. Stayed here for kids' school. The question is whether I'll survive the remaining 2 years or just completely lose the will....

I hate this ****ing place.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 11:53 am
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As long as we have a choice in the matter, no. We ruled out some jobs due to location. Fortunate that we had a choice


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 11:59 am
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If you can find like minded people to ride with them the terrain doesn't matter so much.

There might not be mountains but it's still fun to explore.   And the right friends can turn any ride into an epic adventure.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 12:03 pm
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Having lived in south Wales all my life I find I get antsy if I'm somewhere flat for too long. Whenever we visit family on the south coast (of England) after about 3 days I'm pining for some hills. It sounds mad but it's like I feel exposed in the flatlands. 


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 12:13 pm
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I moved from the East London/Essex borders to the Sussex coast. If I had to return I'd probably leave my bikes here as part of the fixtures and fittings when I sold the house.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 12:18 pm
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No, not unless my life or marriage depended on it. Luckily my wife rides and understands this.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 12:22 pm
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Nope, one main decision in moving back to Devon 20 years ago was decent cycling.

Dartmoor and the Quantocks both 30 mins away, and pretty much endless bridleways, unmettaled roads,  FC land and open access heathland out of my door. The hills aren't huge (250m tops) but there's a lot of them!


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 12:23 pm
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I moved from Edinburgh to Hull for family and work. I've mostly made sure I live near hills so it's taken some getting used to. We do have the Yorkshire Wolds and the gravel bike is perfect. It takes a change of mindset to appreciate what there is. If I'm on holiday or visiting relatives I'll take the mountain bike but I really miss a short ride to some decent mtb trails. Living here has its good sides away from cycling though


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 12:27 pm
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No where within about 8 miles from me is more than 50mtr asl
So I always drive to ride off road
Road cycling is ok from the door, good choice of flat or rolling hills but no mountains
The plus side is that I live on the seafront, so can windsurf or paddle board or open water swim straight from home.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 12:28 pm
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Living in Surrey I'm being drawn to return to Devon for various reasons, and while you may think Devon is great for mountain biking, the kind of places I'd maybe move to are a fair distance from decent riding. Devon has a lot of land but a lot of it is out of bounds. The main decent open space is Dartmoor and cycling off road and off bridleways is forbidden under the bylaw (though largely ignored but things may get clamped down).

While Surrey is not mountainous, I have a huge amount of riding options from the door, and not so far to climb 😄. There are a huge amount of commons around me, public access army land, Surrey Hills of course which is a huge area, and a lot of access. Such a big MTB community around means a lot of trails.

I'd prefer to live in Devon in part for the scenery and lifestyle and for family reasons. Yet I'd be losing a lot of luxury I have where I am.

It's daft though because as I say you'd hardly consider Devon rubbish for riding. It's just it's a big county very spread out and where I need to be is not ride from the door friendly.

Okay, there's car option but I'm driving so little these days and I'm happy not to drive about and ride from the door if I can.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 12:52 pm
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@tjmoore - you're right Devon is a big county, and some of the bits you'd think were great are in fact not so.

My wife's from N.Devon on the edge of Exmoor, and I've always struggled to find decent riding up there (there are pockets of it though).

Dartmoor is good for long, open routes, but you need to look around places like Lustleigh Cleave, etc. for techy singletrack.

Mid-Devon is pretty much barren 😆 again small pockets, but not great.

I'm in East Devon, and for me it has the best of all worlds, lots of riding (MTB, road and gravel) from the door, but with decent access to other places like the Quantocks.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 1:00 pm
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@thegeneralist I'm South East Manchester and it's great for road and MTB from the doorstep. Road wise, got the hills, or head for the flats in the South West. Cycling infrastructure is crap in SE Manc, but I at least have a 80% off road cycle commute route into the city (well a couple of decent routes).

I've resisted moving out towards Handforth/Wilmslow for the reason of easy access to hills, road and MTB.

My mate lifes on the outskirts of Wilmslow, and hates the 'entitled' locals that live there - riding is flat and fast road though.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 1:14 pm
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I do - Glasgow. Have to travel to get anywhere decent.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 1:25 pm
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I’m in East Devon, and for me it has the best of all worlds, lots of riding (MTB, road and gravel) from the door, but with decent access to other places like the Quantocks.

How weird. I've spent years in East Devon (Upottery) over the last half century and found it shit for cycling.
Narrow lanes, overgrown hedges, loose gravel/grass in the middle. Horrible clay muddy clag on the few actual bridleways that exist...
Where are you?


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 1:25 pm
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I don't think I would (live somewhere where the riding is rubbish)...it seems like something you can't really put a price on. Even if I go through stages of my life where I'm not riding, the knowledge that I could take it up again at any point I wished would be worth a lot to me.

That said, I only really road ride now so its not like I'd need to live somewhere of outstanding beauty, would only need to live within 35-40mins "commute" to some country lanes, though I would want some hills too.

I live in South Manchester so the peaks and cheshire lanes aren't far away but if it was up to me I'd probably move somewhere where I could pretty much ride from the door, like Lancashire or Bowland. My wife is a city girl though so can't justify moving just to improve my sunday bike rides or whatever.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 1:44 pm
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Glasgow. Have to travel to get anywhere decent.

Yeah, but at least you can get somewhere really amazing in a few hours...

I’m South East Manchester and it’s great for .... MTB from the doorstep

Hmmm. Better than here Defo. Good from a " from the front door" perspective, but I'd hesitate to call it great.


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 1:45 pm
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We moved to Norfolk over twenty years ago for Mrs Sandboy’s first teaching post.
I quickly learned that riding on roads was my only viable option, and at first, I enjoyed exploring my new surroundings, going out at weekends in different directions and soon discovered that North Norfolk is far from flat.
Fat biking has given me a lot more options for riding off road and I thoroughly enjoy riding my local beaches and dunes. Gravel is probably what I ride the most often and can easily link together some trails, tracks and bridleways to make a fifty mile loop through some lovely quiet countryside.
I’m lucky to have family on the south coast and in Carmarthenshire so I regularly get my fix of elevation however, the retirement plan is to move somewhere else. I have definitely got to the point where I need some hills!


 
Posted : 16/12/2023 2:04 pm
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I do but to outsiders it sounds like I have amazing riding on my doorstep!

I live in the East side of Cardiff surrounded by housing estates and docks so nowhere decent from the door, the best is gravel surfaced cycle paths. Just to the North of the city is some decent riding but to get to it I either have to ride 35-40 mins across the city (via some very bad junctions) or drive 20 mins to the north and park up there. I do have Cwmcarn 25 mins away but that again involves driving and depending upon the time and day it can be hell getting there or back, the record being over an hour to do the 19 mile journey. I have lots of places within an hour, that can get me to Afan, BPW, FOD and the Beacons, but again you run into the issue of traffic times that can really take the shine off going out for a ride. That's the big issue for me: I have to go through some of the worst areas for congestion to get to the good riding. It doesn't help that I'm a country bumpkin at heart but moved here for work (the wage increase was more than enough to cover travelling for rides) and any attempt to escape back to the country has been thwarted by external factors. Currently I'm basically stuck where I am as rents have gone mental and moving would be so prohibitively expensive it's not even worth considering. Doesn't help that my chosen job is almost always based in cities!

I massively long for the days where I had riding from my doorstep of the family home, of the quality that there are two Classic rides that are easily accessible plus loads of bridleways, hills, easy offroad routes and some absolute top grade road riding there too. Basically I was spoilt growing up and that sours anywhere else really.


 
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