[Closed] Would you buy a (new) fatbike for ~£1k?

Elsewhere I find it a handicap.

Do you mean "going fast over bumpy/rocky ground"? That's where I find mine most frustrating, but I think that's more to do with the fact that it's rigid than fat.

Yeah, I absolutely love mine but only bike, **** that. Depends on your riding of course, for some folks it'll be ideal.

Cheers all, I'll keep it as an itch to scratch in the future. Luckily living where I do there's no coast riding to tempt me!

Having spent hours looking at options and reviews last night, I came to the conclution that I want front suspension.

So to get a Dune with the On One Bluto, Reverb, frame deal and sell the frame.

For under £1100 total (with my XT brakes), I figured it would be a great place to start.

Didn't actually check stock at On One (there isn't any) so back to the drawing board.

Now back on to the Trek @ Evans, or a Cube Nutrail Pro.

Really like the look of this, but not sure about the shop as they are much cheaper than anywhere else.

https://www.bestbikeproducts.com/m1b42s349p6428/CUBE-NUTRAIL-PRO-2016/RS_GB/27567

Am off ill today with a stinkiy cold. Can't concentrate much as my head hurts, but will try some more digging in a bit.

Keeping my eye out for a used Calibre Dune, not seen many though. One on eBay last week with Blutos but went to high for my budget 🙁

Do you mean "going fast over bumpy/rocky ground"? That's where I find mine most frustrating

...more to do with the fact that it's rigid than fat.

It was perfect weather for one last weekend

Tend to agree but I think the fat tyres absorb so much to begin with so it's like chatter-chatter-chatter then boing-boing-boing then BOING-BOING-BOUNCE-BOUNCE-BOING-KINHELL etc

That's an interesting point. There is certainly an optimum pressure window (which seems to be a bit wider on a 4.8 than a 4.0). Too low and you are dinging rims. Too high and as you say, it's like riding an out of control spacehopper. The problem is that the optimum pressure changes with the terrain and it's hard to find something that works perfectly for even a single ride. I guess the solution could be full-suss full-fat, but that way madness lies 🙂

A fullfat full sus could be an awesome do it all bike, but the cost to buy a bucksaw or similar and then keep it in tyres would be eye watering for me.

It would be nice though, going out for a pootle knowing you could ride almost anything you happen across.

The problem is that the optimum pressure changes with the terrain and it's hard to find something that works perfectly for even a single ride

A fullfat full sus could be an awesome do it all bike

I guess the solution could be full-suss full-fat, but that way madness lies

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http://www.trekbikes.com/gb/en_GB/bikes/mountain-bikes/fat-bikes/farley-ex/farley-ex-9-8/p/1135600-2017/

There goes the £1k limit 🙂

It's high time the Dune 11 with Bluto hit the market

The best thing about the Fuel Ex is that once you realise Plus is bollocks, you can convert it into a proper bike.

(only half trolling)

Contentious post 🙂

I've never ridden a full suss (or even a front sus) fatbike before, so I'll defer to those who have, but what bothers me is that it could end up being a bit slow (for me) to be the only bike.

Taking an old 29er hardtail as my reference (since it's the fastest offroad bike I've ridden), my own stats suggest that a full suss 29er is about 5% slower overall (i.e. full suss seems to be 5% slower than a hardtail for me). A rigid 5" fatbike is also about 5% slower than the hardtail (i.e. about the same as the full suss). So a full-suss fatbike could end up 10% slower, which doesn't sound like much but would probably be enough to annoy me over time.

But that's all theory.

Isn't that one a Farley EX? They do do one, not sure how big the tyres will go, but the spacing is the same as the HT, comes with 27.5 3.8"s

it is indeed an EX it could be the bike we're all looking for *cough*

Only £3.5k for the basic one, hmmm.

Might keep the Bossnut and buy a Dune and then have a week in Majorca with the family instead.

Dupe!

going out for a pootle knowing you could ride almost anything you happen across.

I think that sums up nicely the exact reason I like my Dune so much. It's an adventure curious bimblers delight.

It would indeed be great to see the updated Dune hit the shop floor. What could be the hold up I wonder? I'd imagine it's very hard to provide 11sp and Bluto without having to ask for the same money as the big boys

Strictly speaking, this breaks the £1k rule, but...

Canyon outlet factory has a number of Dudes, starting from £1229 for a large "fatrol" rigid CF8.0 and ~£150 more for Bluto equipped mediums! 😯

https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/factory-outlet/#category=mtb-bikes&sort=price&order=1

IIRC, the Dude frames are long, as someone with the torso of a typical ~6'1" total height (but tiny legs for total height of ~5'10") I suspect the large frame would stretch me out too much and upset my lower back.

Sorry to follow up my previous post, just missed the 15 mins cutoff to edit...

Wazoo is £400 before in-store BC/Toyota discount or online cashback discount! 😯

http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bikes/mountain-bikes/voodoo-wazoo-fat-bike

n0b0dy0ftheg0at

If your 5ft 10 the medium should be fine..

I'm 5ft 9 on a medium..only thing I don't like is the stand over height is a bit limited for my short 31" inside leg.

The top tube lengths are a bit exaggerated as there taken from the very front of the head tube not the centre..

If the cf8.0 Dude was a medium, I would have been really tempted, amazing how it is ~4Kg lighter than a default Wazoo and those lovely BR2250 wheels...

My legs are ~31.5" at best by a self-done book wedge measuring, my 18" Wazoo has a ETT of ~595mm and a large Dude's ~640mm ETT might be a bit too much.

@Goldigger What are the front and rear hub widths on your Dude, 150/190mm?

Not sure why I couldn't find the Canyon deals but, if they are still around in 7 days I'll be having one 🙂

Nobody of the goat...

Thanks of the Canyon link. Had some friends over and after fat biking this weekend, one mate bout a Dude off the Factory Bikes site.

He's really happy....

I saw the large Dude fatrol cf8 went, enjoy, whichever one was bought! 8)

https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/factory-outlet/#category=mtb-bikes&sort=price&order=1

Dude CF 9.0 available in M £1389
That's what Ive got, personally I think it's a bargain for a carbon frame, dt Swiss wheels and the bluto.

If I measure the ETT centre to centre on my medium it's 590mm
Canyon quote 604mm

Hub spacing is 150/197mm

Nobodyofthegoat, if your near hemel your welcome to come get your leg over mine...

I suspect the large frame would stretch me out too much and upset my lower back.

Just fit a nice short stem?

You and I have almost identical stats, although im taller at 6'1" (on a good day) - and i'd always go for longer top tubes.

As much as I love my Dune, those dudes are shweeet, and thats a nice discount.

Which (Dune?) frame did you go for, slimjim? ETT?

Thing is my back is quite happy on the 18" Wazoo (~595mm ETT) with a 35mm Corto stem and the 25mm rise 747mm "chewy" Knuckeball bars. To begin with, I found the Wazoo front end too low on rides longer than ~15mins.

If money was less of an issue, I keep thinking I should really get a "proper" bike fit done, my skewed body proportions at 5'10 (having shrunk since my peak in the mid 1990s) with ~+10cm ape index makes choosing correct road/mtb frames an absolute minefield, further complicated by my lower back injury from 2008!

'Large' - sorry, can't recall the ETT.
I waited what seemed an age for it to be released and bought one of the first.
If anything, i'd prefer an extra 10mm on the TT, but im currently happy with it running an 80mm stem (and 777 knuckleballs). Sounds like you may genuinely prefer a shorter reach than me though.

I totally relate on your sizing issues, I've done the measurements in the past but never a proffessional fitting. Everything always seemed to point to an 'inbetween' size. Ie, 57cm TT on road bikes. 19" on MTB (when 18 and 20 are usually only options).
Im certain I wouldnt get on with the medium Dune though.

Do you have anyone local that you can demo ride? Your welcome to try mine if you happen across West Sussex.

Goldigger - sush, that's the one I want !

Actually, it was the CF8.0 with Bluto, but that has gone already.

Never mind, will look what is available when I have the funds.

NoTg
He bought the CF 8.0 Dune, lime green / yellow, large, no Blutos

He specifically wanted 2 rings, no suspension so thats what he got himself. He is flying back from Germany today and hopefully gets a new bike early doors next week.

just spotted this on ebay,could be a bargain for somebody.i`ve no connection whatsoever to it btw.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/fat-bike-/272559682690?hash=item3f75d2b482:g:kusAAOSwWxNYpp-2

I road my friends large Dude and it felt absolutely spot on size wise. I am only 5'9 with a 30" inside leg and did not notice any standover issues at all. The longer reach of the large felt fantastic. It's a bloody great bike, when I buy a replacement fatty at the end of the year I'm going for a rigid Dude. Amazing value and a genuinely very good bike.

Bit of a loose connection, but is the Fatbike UK forum down again for others?

n0b0dy0ftheg0at - Member
Bit of a loose connection, but is the Fatbike UK forum down again for others?

Yes, it is for me. Was all day yesterday too 😐

So the calibre dune is available for about £540 with all the discounts. Do Go Outdoors usually have a 10 percent offer every month, or is it likely to be a while before that discount again?

Quite tempted by it!

I bought mine at the beginning of October when they were reduced to £499 for a couple of weeks,not sure if that will come around again but I have noticed the calibre bossnut is reduced by£100 at the moment .Not regretted buying mine at all though and I would say it's well worth it if you can get one for £540.

So the calibre dune is available for about £540 with all the discounts. Do Go Outdoors usually have a 10 percent offer every month, or is it likely to be a while before that discount again?

I paid £500 in Oct, I've since spent a small fortune and I'm still spending..

Don't regret a penny, its ace. Latest addition, a Bluto, way better if you want to ride it like a hooligan sort of hardtail.

Up for a SDW Dune ride collective this Summer chaps?

Other fatsters accepted 🙂

Why discriminate us other fatbike riders?
Invite the dudes too at least 😉

Crazy idea, but how likely would it be to fit a retro shimano 8 speed drive train to a fat bike frame - dune specifically? Maybe not the triple, but a double or just the rear mech? Crazy? Sure is.

How do I stop what I can only assume is pedal Bob on my dude (bluto)?
When I pedal hard it feels like I'm bouncing up and down only on the back wheel.

OK I could stop pedalling, but that won't get me far.

Run higher pressures, although I don't think this is the answer.

Any tips appreciated

Just learn to pedal in circles.

When I pedal hard it feels like I'm bouncing up and down only on the back wheel.

Is the "bob" in sync with your pedalling downstroke? If so then your pedalling action needs attention.

Get on a turbo trainer or static bike and pedal really quickly. If you start to bounce then it's you not the bike.