[Closed] why buy folding tyres?

Sometimes folding ones are better quality compounds and higher threads per inch than wire ones too, depends on the manufacturer.

Lighter, and probably a bit easier to fit onto tight rims too I would imagine. I tend to ride folding tyres although it doesn't make a massive difference.

I have a 2.1" Nobby Nic on the front for XC riding (inc [i]slow[/i] racing) and get on well with it. Not ridden a 2.25", but I hear that they are at least as good. Not ridden the Advantage to compare.

Stick with the advantages i always use them ?

I have NNs on one bike and Advantages on another. I'm gonna sell the NNs as the Advantages are just in a different league.

folders are damn useful when you need to take a few spares on your holidays.

I knew i could rely on this forum for advice, cheers folks. Thanks espescially druidh for your side-by-side test there, off the back of that i think i`ll stick with what i know. My advantages are 2.1 on my dialled alpine, would going up to 2.25 give me loads more grip or would they just slow me down?

Folders are better as when you've used 80% of the tread and put them in the garage 'just in case' you can turn them inside out, roll them up and stick some insulation tape around them, and chuck them in a box never to be seen again, rather than having a big pile of wire bead tyres slung over a big hook 🙂

Advantages come up pretty big anyway - a 2.1 is like a 2.25 High Roller. Much is gonna depend on your style of riding and terrain though, so i's hard to say if you'd see any improvement.

Also with the advantages they are a high volume tyre so they will reduce pinch flats.

In my experience a folding 2.1" advantage on the back of a hardtail was c***. Depends what you ride; lots of rocky descents in the lakes for me and I just got too many pinch flats.

So I can fit them in my bag when I ride back from the shop.

it also depends on your weight & what pressure your running it at?
i put 40 psi in mine to stop pinch flats.

I generally find folding tyres much easier to get on and off then wire rimmed ones. When it's cold and/or raining that's a huge advantge. With regard to running larger tyres on an Alpine, I run 2.35s on mine and I hadn't noticed an increase in drag but they work so much better on the kind of riding the Alpine is designed for.

I have sometimes carried a folding mud tyre in the backpack in summer (space which is used for extra gloves, socks etc..in winter) on those days when you want to ride on nice fast tyres that work well on dry and dusty trails, but the clouds overhead are threatening heavy rain, nice to be able to swap the front over quick when things get soaking wet underfoot and have a bit more stability on wet muddy corners.

I have sometimes carried a folding mud tyre in the backpack in summer (space which is used for extra gloves, socks etc..in winter) on those days when you want to ride on nice fast tyres that work well on dry and dusty trails, but the clouds overhead are threatening heavy rain, nice to be able to swap the front over quick when things get soaking wet underfoot and have a bit more stability on wet muddy corners.

😆

I guess that's why they call you mental mickey!

no. way.

Always bought folding as I find them more easily on and offable

"In my experience a folding 2.1" advantage on the back of a hardtail was c***."

Ditto - it pinch flatted badly on my HT, though weirdly not on my FS.

But the 2.1 wire (70a) version doesn't suffer with pinch flats like the folding one. So with the 2.1 folding (60a) version on the front it makes a cracking all-round combo for my local trail conditions and riding (lack of) style. My fav tyre.

+1 what buzz says 😀
At 15st fully laden I usually run pressures nearer 50psi if I know I will be riding rocky stuff

mental mickey u gotta be shittin me haha! just save some money an get the wire advantage 2.25, brilliant trail tyres! best i've ever had infact!

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mental mickey u gotta be shittin me haha! just save some money an get the wire advantage 2.25, brilliant trail tyres! best i've ever had infact!

Had a feeling it might draw attention, your post makes little sense though, I already have various tyres, how would buying more save 'me' money?

I have to cycle many miles to get off road, I don't drive to the location. I was finding the Panaracer fire xc tyres skittish at times in certain wet conditions combined with certain types of terrain, a simple common sense (and easy) solution was to stuff one of my trailrakers into the back pack for times when conditions changed for much the worse.

What exactly is so f*ing funny about that?

I thought Nobby-Nics were overrated & didnt like them at all. The knobbles were too soft, & they ended up almost tearing off. I'm no lightweight though. Much prefer Kenda Nev & Blue Groove Combo. 2.1's will roll a bit easier than 2.35, but not massively so. A 2.35 wire bead is not going to ba a light tyre though. Plus, wire beads tend to focus on the cheaper end, so might miss out on features like dual compound, increased tpi etc. I tried a cheap wire-bead Kenda Nev & it wasnt as good as the folding equivalent.
If you fancy a great summer tyre I can recomend Small Block 8's. Despite their appearance they are great, even on rock, but wait till the trails dry first. 🙂

mental mickey- 😆

The folding versions are always lighter. By general agreement, even on here, wheel weight is actually quite important. I run Minion DHF 2.35 60A.
Wire bead 780gm
Folding 700gm
An 80gm saving is the equivelant of going to a much lighter rim

I sometimes ask my pit crew to have a few tyres of softer compounds waiting at the top of climbs so they can swap them over for me so I can enjoy the descents a bit more.

And if my helicopter pilot sees bad weather coming in, he radios through to the crew who adjust the tyre choice to suit.