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Just got back from a ride where we bumped into a specimen of the new style policing. We were riding along the cycletrack on the Tarelton by-pass passing lots of cars that were not moving, we were near our turn off when we came on a group of police cars and a police motor bike with lots of officers sitting on bonnets chatting. A motor bike cop stepped into our path making me slam on. Get back you cant go through he said I said were only going to that turn off is it okay to carry on. I *****ng told you to get back came the reply. There followed several rounds of verbals that ended up with me being threatened with arrest.

I never raised my voice I never swore at the policeman despite being told several times to Fu*k off. I was never given an explanation why I couldnt go 20 yards to my turning and what made it worst was that this bad language was in front of my 15 year old niece. She has probably heard worse but I am upset that she heard it. Almost equally aggravating was the other officers who just sat on there bonnets laughing at us.

I am going to report this but as there were no cameras present I imagine I am wasting my time and money. Have the police always been this bad or is it a new thing.

Before people start calling me a lefty whinger I am a 49 year old ex army officer, middle age, middle class, middle ground politcally and the most radical thing I have ever done is contribute to GreenPeace. My contact with police has been nearly zero apart from a couple of speeding tickets and reporting a couple of thefts.


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 3:00 pm
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Got his name and number I hope?

MAKE SURE you report it, and be quite explicit at how much it upset you, and that it was totally unprofessional of him, especially in front of your 15 year old niece.

Sadly most people I know (and myself) have a very real problem with the Police. Not cos we're all drug dealing, gun toting, law breaking criminals, but because we're law abiding citizens that know we're policed by a bunch of overpaid and underskilled thugs that know they've got the easy life. One guy I knew from uni joined the Thames Valley force. He was well known as the biggest drug dealer in the uni whilst there! He was also a total bully and a thug and used to beat people up regularly just for the fun of it. And he is now policing us!

The fact that several of them were sitting around doing nothing, blocking your way, wasting taxpayers money is also of some concern! I mean how many other jobs do you know where big groups of people get paid lots of money to sit around doing nothing, at the taxpayers expense?

Sorry, rant over, but MAKE SURE you report this. You may be lucky, you may not, but unless you report it nothing can be done!


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 3:09 pm
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140,000 police officers.
There's going to be some to$$ers.

I came across a blockade in the middle of green park the other day (Mexican pres in town) and got directed to the easiest way out of the park on my bike by a very friendly copper who shared a few jokes about Jacqui Smith's porn habits.


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 3:14 pm
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I would report it definitely, I dont have an issue with the police but I have had some rather frank discussions with them in the past when some arrogant young policeman tries bully tactics and talks like he has some additional power over you. Some of them dont realise they are actually civilians.


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 3:17 pm
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Don't bother reporting... Waist of time... Where will you have to go for that?
POLICE station so they will cover themselves.


 
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I agree report him. There may be a good reeason that the road closure was on ie a fatal/serious RTC however there is no excuse of reason for being as you describe events a poor excuse for a uniform wearer.
The job aint what it used to be and nor are some of the employees it is a shame that your experiences with these officers will possibly lead you and others to think that all poice officers are unprofessional louts. I hope that any other police contact that you have makes ammends for their poor service.


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 3:21 pm
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He was wearing leathers and a green Hi vis jacket I couldnt see any numbers. Just spoken to my niece and she says she took a few pics on her phone whilst no one was looking.

I am going to wait till I see them before I do anything.

I dont want to make a complaint but I feel I have to even though it is probably going to mean I get stopped for driving on the cracks in the road every week for the next year.

When did the police stop being public servants and turn into our masters.


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 3:22 pm
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report it but remember, its always a small minority that spoil it for the better majority.

now that people are selling their stories through the press for every minor thing i can only see the police's attitude from getting worse.


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 3:26 pm
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Just spoken to my niece and she says she took a few pics on her phone whilst no one was looking.

Might not want to mention that, since Our Glorious Leaders recently made it illegal to photograph the police!


 
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really, that true or just internet waffle?


 
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Suggsey I agree with you it could have been something serious but all I wanted to do was ride 20 yards to a bridleway entrance and ride a couple of miles back to my sisters house in the opposite direction.

If the policeman had have said I am sorry you cant go any further X has happened I would have shrugged my shoulders and turned round but being repetedly told to **** off and then being threatened with arrest is not on.

When I was an army officer if one of my lads had spoken like that to anyone under any circumstance I would have been down on him like a ton of bricks. That includes during service in Bosnia and Northern Ireland where circumstances were considerably more difficult than a sunny day in England


 
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Clearly the correct course of action is not to make a complaint, but to start screaming and shouting hysterically "Who do you think you are, pushing a fu**ing person, you scum", then trying to grab him and screaming in his face while he tells you to back off.


 
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Clearly the correct course of action is not to make a complaint, but to start screaming and shouting hysterically "Who do you think you are, pushing a fu**ing person, you scum", then trying to grab him and screaming in his face while he tells you to back off.

If I had done those things then he would have been in his rights to do what he did. However I did not even raise my voice if my niece had not of been there then I might have raised my voice and I imagine I would now be sitting in a cell.

Why did he get such an obviuos kick out of telling me to fu*k off in front of a 15 year old girl. Was he trying to show off in front of a very pretty girl or was he trying to show off to his fellow policemen.


 
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Clearly the correct course of action is not to make a complaint, but to start screaming and shouting hysterically "Who do you think you are, pushing a really quite tiny person, you scum", then trying to grab him and screaming into his chest (as the height difference is considerable) while he backhands you in the face then clubs you round the back of the legs.

Good point well made z-11 🙄


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 4:04 pm
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Pants, thats not a criticism of you - plod was clearly being a power mad tosser, but clearly you handled the situation in a mature and reasonable manner rather than kicking off and making it worse then playing the poor little victim!


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 4:06 pm
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Labrat, let it go. You lost that one, yet you're trying to continue it here.

Personally, I wooduv tooken the copper's number, and reported him for an offence under [url= http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?activeTextDocId=2236961 ]Section 5 of the Public Order Act[/url]; Using threatening and/or abusive language and/or behaviour, in a public place, likely to cause offence.

Go to the police, inform your local MP, anyone who has a responsibility to ensure your civil rights are upheld, and that Law and Order are also upheld.

Kick up a fuss. Dirty Babylonians want respect? Then they should start behaving with some themselves.

Feelthy Coppeurs...


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 4:14 pm
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Copper sounds like a reet ****wit


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 4:55 pm
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Sweeping statements, the classic STW response to conclude a matter... 🙄


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 5:00 pm
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Mboy you got an e-mail I can message you about your comment.


 
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'Sadly most people I know (and myself) have a very real problem with the Police. Not cos we're all drug dealing, gun toting, law breaking criminals, but because we're law abiding citizens that know we're policed by a bunch of overpaid and underskilled thugs that know they've got the easy life. One guy I knew from uni joined the Thames Valley force. He was well known as the biggest drug dealer in the uni whilst there! He was also a total bully and a thug and used to beat people up regularly just for the fun of it. And he is now policing us!'

Right, so because of some bloke you know at uni who was a tw*t is now a copper, it makes them all like him does it? 😕


 
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Take advantage of the media circus ! Make the official complaint but also put the incident in the media , even if its only the local paper.
'Bad cops' really are vile aren't they !


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 5:13 pm
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yeah the police can be really rude!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8006544.stm

[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8006544.stm ]G20 summit police violence[/url]


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 5:21 pm
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Or even this...

[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8004861.stm ]man dies after police 'push' at G20 summit[/url]


 
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Mboy you got an e-mail I can message you about your comment.

Don't! She'll get yer IT addy, pass it on to her collegues in the IT dept, who will use that to find out where you live and before you know it, you'll be having yer front door kicked in at 3am, dragged down to the station in yer underpants, where you'll [s]be given a right good kicking[/s] fall down the stairs, and you'll end up getting fitted up for some blag you had no idea about...*

*This might not actually happen.


 
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I agree with stoner's 140000 police officers, there are going to be some tossers, but how come the officer in question felt comfortable doing this in front of lots of his colleagues? Why did they all tacitly condone his behaviour?


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 5:34 pm
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Plenty of ****s in the police. I've told this one many times but hey.
I got called to my works alarm. When I arrived a police car pulled up behind me. Two of the worlds bigest morons jumped out and told me to get on the floor and that they were armed police. I said something along the line of youre joking, but they made it very clear they were'nt. So I laid down at which point they pissed themselves laughing.
Could'nt really be arsed to report it, I guess one day they'll try that on a tooled up smack head and it won't end in laughter.


 
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Rudeboy nope that's certainly not going to happen! i wish to get rid of the bad uns so that not everyone has the impression of coppers that most of you have on here, i'll keep fighting to change impressions.


 
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As far as I can tell, the Police have only themselves to blame for the loss of respect they have suffered over recent years. Yes, it may be a minority of members of the force who act like power-mad kers, but as noted above, their behaviour seems to effectively be condoned by their colleagues unless there is a complaint made or a camera nearby. So the working assumption of the public has to be that every Police officer is a power-mad ker until an individual they deal with demonstrates otherwise. Basic self preservation really.

The trouble is, it's a vicious circle: Police lose respect of public, so public don't respond as cooperatively to what might be reasonable requests of the Police so Police need to be more assertive/aggressive to get the same job done so public think they are power mad and the Police lose another small measure of respect, and on it goes...


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 6:22 pm
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What adam said. When a copper act like a nobhead ****er I quite not see the other telling him he/she's acting like a thug. Plus I think complaining to the police about the police is only gonna get you more trouble, a bit like rudeboy says.


 
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the police have always been rude !


 
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should not have sworn in front of a 15 year old. There is no excuse for that
go to the station and speak to an inspector and report it, the inspector will have to speak to the officer about it, so he will know that you have been in, but i can guarantee you that you wont be targeted in any way.
people make complaints all the time, ive been subject of several, some unfounded, some when ive been at fault, all very minor i would like to add.
on one occasion i spoke to the person involved and apologised.
so dont think it will be brushed under the carpet, it wont.
Not saying he will get sacked or moved to another post, it will be classed as a minor complaint and if proved, he will most likeley be advised and recorded on his personal file.
But,he should not have sworn at you, and certainly not in front of a 15 year old, im sure the inspector you speak with will agree, just stay calm and rational when reporting it, and for christ sake dont start off with "i pay your wages"


 
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He told you to get back and you can't get through. You chose to disregard his instruction and come crying on here about the naughty police

Is it any wonder that the police go about ****ting people when no one listens to them.

You deserve all you got imo


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 7:08 pm
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juan,
ignore rudeboy , he cant be rational or objective!


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 7:09 pm
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Fuzzy = troll ?


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 7:09 pm
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easygirl from your comment on the G20 thread I think you cant either...


 
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Fuzzy = troll ?

How is what I said trolling? The op was given an instruction by the police, he failed to adhere to it, then comes on here crying like a baby

I'd be interested to see why the road was closed off, I'm guessing a fatal accident in which case the op would look a bigger **** than he already is


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 7:14 pm
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>The op was given an instruction by the police, he failed to adhere to it,

He was attempting to discuss that he only wanted to go 20 yrds further on and then turn off.


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 7:18 pm
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yes but surely the road was blocked there for a reason and not 20 yds further on....


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 7:20 pm
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And....He obviously couldn't otherwise the police would have let him.

As much as you want to hate the Police I can't see them all sitting at the side of the road holding up traffic for no reason


 
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Don't think the wanting to go through bits the problem, think he's accepted he couldn't go through. It's just the way in which the officer handled the situation, which I think was a little unprofessional


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 7:24 pm
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maybe a firm and polite "I am sorry sir I cannot let you pass" would have been enough?


 
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I'd be interested to see why the road was closed off, I'm guessing a fatal accident in which case the op would look a bigger **** than he already is

which planet are you living on.

Now i have a lot of respect for the police round my area cos they put up with so much shit from a massive majority of people but for you to think that swearing in front of a 15 year old girl is ok and generally being abusive is the guys fault then you obviously have never left your house, lived in the real world or generally just dont have a clue.

He told you to get back and you can't get through. You chose to disregard his instruction and come crying on here about the naughty police

Is it any wonder that the police go about ****ting people when no one listens to them

this statement just sums you up. The police are highly trained to keep their cool. NO EXCUSE.


 
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Fuzzy = troll ?

No, don't be unkind. I think he's a bit 'special', the poor love...


 
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i've been on the reciving end of a 'slap' from the police, walking down the street with a group of friends, hand reaches out - grabs me by the throat, the other hand slaps me hard around the head, follwed by 'f*** off or i'll nick you. this is common place - there are a lot of people who have had a LOT worse (but they can usually be dismissed/ignored as they are black/asian/poor).

Fuzzy - damn right you should 'cry about the naughty poice'


 
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actually reading my own post 'naughty police' sounds a bit odd


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 7:28 pm
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Just report him. I always report the police when they're in the wrong.


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 7:33 pm
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Captain Bastard! What a brilliant login name!

Wish I'd thought of that...


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 7:33 pm
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Why are the police so damn rude these days

It's just society in general 🙁


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 7:56 pm
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report him. Even if you don't have his number they will know which bike officer was posted there at that time. You can get charged for swearing at a police officer therefore its unacceptable for them to swear at you. When you make your complaint (there is probably an email link so you don't need to go to the station) you should be given the information about how the police handle complaints, and if you are not satisfied with the outcome where you can go (higher up the chain of command first - and then the IPCC).


 
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A303 was closed while we were out on a road ride, copper redirecting traffic by Stonehenge. We needed to go up to the next roundabout, so asked him what the score was. He said we'd be fine to go through, and waved us on cheerfully whilst stopping cars doing the same. Had the 303 to ourselves, was lovely. Mostly my dealings with the police have been fine, even when I've been in the wrong. Clearly some are tossers, just like in any other profession.


 
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fuzzy-dunlop I know your a special needs troll so I have written the following with the shortest words I could find.

The police cars were not a road block they were parked on the cycle track they were not controlling the traffic which started to move about 5 minutes after the incident. The officers were in a group chatting when we came on them most of them were sitting on the bonnets of there cars. The traffic carried on as far as the eye could see.

I found out later that was no accident the traffic was simply backed up because of the number of cars trying to get into the seaside resort of Southport combined with a steam rally at the Riverside.

A report has been e-mailed to the Cheif Constable Lancashire police and to my MP and I will follow it up with a written complaint complete with pictures.

I know its a very bad idea to complain about the police and I fully expect to get stopped for various trivial and non existent reasons for the next year but I dont like bullies and this idiot was a bully with a badge who was getting his kicks swearing in front of a 15 year old girl. What a hero.

So there you go fuzzy did you understand all those big words Now hurry up put your riot gear on and get out there I am sure there is some crime going on


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 9:43 pm
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A few years ago I was hit by a car whilst out cycling, I reported it to the police who asked me to go 30 miles to report it. I had been cycling. I suggested that maybe getting an officer to come out to me would be better. An officer finally appeared. Statement given, I agreed that I would be willing to appear to give evidence.
4 months pass, I phone up to ask and get told that I had no right to ask them what was going on.
I wrote a personal letter to the Chief Constable.
Amazingly within 3 days I was personally called by his aide, had a detailed statement couriered to me with full insurance information (amongst other information).
As with all things, go straight to the top, then if that doesn't help go beyond.
Oh, and apparently there was no evidence to prosecute a driver on completely empty road knocking a brightly dressed cyclist off the road.


 
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I'm a police officer, and I think you should complain, because our job is hard enough without idiots speaking to you like that. Go to your local station and ask to speak to the on-duty supervision (i.e. the sergeants), and make sure they log the complaint.


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 10:24 pm
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Mboy you got an e-mail I can message you about your comment.

mbonnes AT gmail DOT com

No point me trying to hide it RudeBoy as even if I believed anybody would use it to find my IP address and then use it to monitor me, my email address is all over various posts on this forum so it would only take 2 minutes for anybody who could be bothered to find it!

Munque-Chick, I will add that my statement is my opinion based upon my own experiences. I am sorry if this has caused any offence, and I'm glad there are some decent officers such as yourself, and obviously TenMen above, out there trying to be good civil servants, and uphold the law as it should be. I am sorry to say though that in my almost 29 years on this planet, I have many more bad memories of encounters with Police officers than I do good ones, not that there have been that many. The most upsetting fact for me though is as I stated, I know of far too many people that joined the Police Force (and got in!) for the wrong reasons. Those reasons being cos they know they'll be getting an "easy ride" and they get paid to bully and push people around (in their eyes).

I'm sorry, but a Police Officer is a Civil Servant. The moment someone puts on a Police Uniform, there are civil liberties they have to uphold. If I swear at people on the street and am generally abusive, rude and unhelpful, be it in front of a 15 year old girl or not, then I'm just an idiot (not that I would do this by the way, I believe in Karma and treat others as you would expect to be treated yourself) member of the public. If a Police Officer does this, then he is seriously undermining the whole point in having a Police Force in the first place! Police Officers are there to stop the thieves, bullies and thugs, not be them! One of my friends from uni (himself a mature student that had spent 6 years in Drug Squad prior to going to uni) left the Police Force because he was fed up with, in his words, "being the only straight copper in the station". He told me stories of how over his 6 years service, many drug raids would not make it back to the station, or at least half of the Coke/Heroin/Pills they raided would not make it back. Then the following week his seniors would buy a new car, or book a Carribean Cruise with their wife or something.

Of course, not everyone is a bad egg for which I'm grateful, but until there is a failsafe mechanism for making sure the bad eggs never get onto the Police Force in the first place, then the bad eggs are always going to spoil it for everyone else, which undermines the whole point of the Police Force in the first place.

I would go on, but I'm afraid I've probably alienated almost everybody on here by now, and cue the responses here to shoot me down in flames... Do what you will!

Oh, and Munque-Chick, I should apologise again. Can't remember the bloke's full name or where he was going to be stationed, remember he was a "James" but that's it. Didn't know him very well at all, I have always steered clear of bullies and thugs wherever possible in my life, and as he was one I tried wherever possible not to come into contact with him.


 
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I was only joking! 😯

FWIW, Munque Chick come across on here as thoughtful and intelligent. As I'm sure most police bods are. We are talking about the tiny minority of police officers, the same way as it's a tiny minority of people at demonstrations which cause trouble for everyone else...


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 11:09 pm
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I was only joking! [8O]

I had guessed mate, but I posted my response aimed at those who hadn't guessed that you would be cos they probably don't get your tongue in cheek humour! 😉


 
Posted : 19/04/2009 11:12 pm
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I know its a very bad idea to complain about the police and I fully expect to get stopped for various trivial and non existent reasons for the next year
I think you are probably wrong. If it were ever proven that an officer were targeting you as a result of a complaint then they would probably loose their job, pension etc!


 
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Helmet cams and youtube - that'll learn em! and also those exhibing dangerous driving too, many times i wish i'd had video evidence of on road shinanegans!


 
Posted : 20/04/2009 12:14 am
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tl:dr

but its thugs like that who make the police get as little respect as they do.
him, and the animals at G20 need putting down.
if it was known they wouldnt get away with it, they wouldnt do it, and they would be respected much more.
they should be made an example of until nasty pieces of work like that dont even bother signing up

there was talk, of allowing police in "riot prevention" to remove thier numbers, so if they bash someone there cant be a complaint.
i dont see how he can refuse to give you his number if you demand it.
and i would, definatly.
and if he says "f*ck off or ill nick u" ide demand it anyway.
ide want it if it ment going down the cop shop in the back of a meat wagon because he needs to be forced to get a new job in McDonalds,
i honestly think its going to get out of hand in the near future.
with the way people have been treated by the police, innocent or not, if i was going to a protest that was likely to get a bit interesting, ide take a full face helmet and some pads.
they will start carrying bigger equipment, and it will spiral, in the same way the french have that blue army who basicly are sent in to bash the crap out of trouble maker.

I digress

follow TenMens advice, hes hit the nail on the head.


 
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him, and the animals at G20 need putting down.

I'm not having that. They're not 'animals', they're Human Beings.

And British Citizens, who have the right to a fair trial. Same as anyone else.

They may be well out of order, but they deserve the same rights as any other Human Beings.


 
Posted : 20/04/2009 12:25 am
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i disagree.

Putting down is indeed a strong way of putting it, i dont have visions of creeping up behind them with a captive bolt, exageration on my part.

but no, i dont see why anyone who has such distrespect for his fellow man, friend or stranger, that it allows him to treat them with less care than he would his own dog, should get any respect back.
and human beings dont come above any animal imo, why should they?


 
Posted : 20/04/2009 12:38 am
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incidently, im no hippy either.

any tree hugger, who ignores polite requests to "cease being a prick" by a policeman with a shield and a stick, and poses a threat to anyone, police or other protestors, be it directly, or by causing an increase in unrest in an already fragile situation, deserves a thump on the head with a baton.

but only in the understanding that they got it because they were creating an undue risk to other people, not because the copper thought it would be funny, or was showing off to his mates.

we are supposed to have faith in these people!


 
Posted : 20/04/2009 12:41 am
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in the same way the french have that blue army who basicly are sent in to bash the crap out of trouble maker.

I suppose you are talking about the CRS, mostly used to control the crowds (read kick the shit out of the 18 years old female student that protest for their liberty to study)
CRS they are not army they are guess what, coppers... No the most sharpest tool in the box I do concur.
Interestingly one of my acquaintance from Judo ended up as a CRS. First time we invited him at a BBQ he spend the whole eve telling us story about
how he and his team-mates arrested someone, put him in the truck hand cuff him to the rail and bully and scared him buy shouting at him, telling him they will kill him etc etc
how he use to go to funfair and when grab a youngster kick him before releasing him telling him that will teach him a lesson
how they did trash the hotel they stayed in because it wasn't up to their standard (repairs payed guess by whom the tax payer)
how he could now ride his fancy motorbike up to 250 km/h and when stopped show the cops card and get away with it

He did however wondered why we did not invite him again.

I really cant see anything/one giving me faith back in the cops...


 
Posted : 20/04/2009 9:03 am
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incidently, im no hippy either.

any tree hugger, who ignores polite requests to "cease being a prick" by a policeman with a shield and a stick, and poses a threat to anyone, police or other protestors, be it directly, or by causing an increase in unrest in an already fragile situation, deserves a thump on the head with a baton.

but only in the understanding that they got it because they were creating an undue risk to other people, not because the copper thought it would be funny, or was showing off to his mates.


So are the officers involved not allowed to put their side of the story, present their defence and have a jury decide if with all the facts as they have been presented they are guilty rather than base your decision on what you saw on the telly?


 
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i've said it before and i'll say it again.

without anyone willing to do anything about it the UK is turning into a fascist state


 
Posted : 20/04/2009 11:07 am
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I rather think that the reason why people are saying that they've lost confidence in the police is because of their apparent lack of accountability, together with what appears to be a change in their role to that of stopping legal dissent.


 
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Swearing in front of your niece is TOTALLY unjustified. You must complain but be prepared for his collegues to have "no recollection of those events".

You really must complain, it's sh*theads like him who are doing real and lasting damage to the old bill.

Well done for keeping calm I'd have ****in lost it and got myself nicked, I'm fuming just typing this!! 👿


 
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you should complain there is no reason why a copper should swear at you and certainly NOT in front of a kid. Even if you were in the wrong (and I'm not saying you were as I have no clue as to the situation) you do not swear at people as it creates the opinions that people have of coppers. We're all thugs, bullys and on a power trip. I know quite a few which are and shouldn't be in the job, I put my complaints in to the deparment which deals with it and nothing gets done!
can you believe they still cannot do random drug tests in the police? they have to have with cause!!!!
I'm not offended by people's opinons it just sometimes make me sad as some of us do work hard to build up positive images when we know there are bad eggs out there!

happy days being a pig a the mo!!!! 😕


 
Posted : 20/04/2009 7:28 pm
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I put my complaints in to the deparment which deals with it and nothing gets done!

Probably little chance of a civilian's complaints being taken seriously then.


 
Posted : 20/04/2009 7:43 pm
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I've said it a million times before and I'll say it again 'coppers are good for **** all'

Coppers are just the kids at school that were either:

a) bullied
b) grasses to the teachers
c) crap with girls

or

d) all of the above


 
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Alb I'd like to say I'm none of the above.


 
Posted : 20/04/2009 9:11 pm
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Sorry forgot to add...

Should you complain? Absolutely. Will it get you anywhere? Absolutely not. Police look after their own.


 
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without anyone willing to do anything about it the UK is turning into a fascist state

Too true, some of the legislations that the government have brought in are ludicrous, taking away our liberties much?


 
Posted : 20/04/2009 9:22 pm
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[b]Pants On Fire[/b] - if you're still there? I've looked for your email address to give you a shout direct, but no luck. Like you, I am 49. I am an Inspector in the Police, not I think in your force area. Please report this incident. Phone the police and explain politely that you'd like to make a 'complaint against police' and ask them to send a supervisory officer out to see you. If it was one of my staff, I would certainly want to know. There might be reasons why they couldn't tell you what was going on, but they could have been polite, certainly doesn't sound like they were pressed for time.
Also it is a total and utter myth that you will then be 'targeted' by the Police - it just does not happen, there is no way for it to happen, and anyone who tried to make it happen would only by in big problems themselves.
Over to you.


 
Posted : 20/04/2009 10:07 pm
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can you believe they still cannot do random drug tests in the police? they have to have with cause!!!!

Honestly, you're having a laugh?!?!

I know of many companies out there that have legitimately introduced random compulsory drug tests. IMO it should be that way for the coppers, say one a year scheduled, and up to 3 others at any point in the year that can be conducted randomly (so as to make sure people aren't just avoiding using when they know there is one around the corner).

Takes the piss that they can't test a copper "without cause" if you ask me.


 
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i've said it before and i'll say it again.

without anyone willing to do anything about it the UK is turning into a fascist state

Wrong, insulting to anyone who has had to live in a fascist state, just plain stupid indeed. read some history.

For all of those kicking off about cops get real. ( not passing any judgement on the OPs complaint)

Cops are human beings just like any others. I have worked with cops and seen the abuse they have to put up with. for sure there are some bads ones but they on the whole are far better than they used to be and much fairer than the perception some of you have.

How on earth do you think our society could survive without cops? Who cleans up the metaphorical shit? You cop haters so live in a little false world - I bet the reason you have such a poor opinion of cops is because you got lippy when drunk and talked your way into being arrested.


 
Posted : 21/04/2009 12:50 am
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I've always found them to be very professional and probably deal with them more regular than most on here, like all professions you will always get the odd fool. One bit of advice I give clients who start giving us or Police abuse on scene is to stop as the Police tend not to take it too well.

Was it such a ball ache to do what they asked they must have had a reason to stop people going through.


 
Posted : 21/04/2009 12:57 am
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Was it such a ball ache to do what they asked they must have had a reason to stop people going through.
No it wouldn't - but read the fing post and you might understand that the fing problem was the fing attitude not the fact that the police has closed the fing road.


 
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It would be unfair to say that my experiences with the police have been universally terrible, however, the bad outweigh the good. In fact the terrible outweigh the bad and each dealing seems to get progressively worse.

There was a time when, despite much evidence to the contrary I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Now, if at all possible I will avoid dealing with the police completely. Could go into plenty of specifics but can't be bothered.


 
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being a copper sounds rubbish. my uncle were in CID and he'd spend months working on a case, only for the felon to get off on a technicality, even though everyone knew it woz im wot dun it guv.

he's got an amazing pension, mind you.


 
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