[Closed] Why are the police so damn rude these days

Just report him. I always report the police when they're in the wrong.

Captain Bastard! What a brilliant login name!

Wish I'd thought of that...

Why are the police so damn rude these days

It's just society in general 🙁

report him. Even if you don't have his number they will know which bike officer was posted there at that time. You can get charged for swearing at a police officer therefore its unacceptable for them to swear at you. When you make your complaint (there is probably an email link so you don't need to go to the station) you should be given the information about how the police handle complaints, and if you are not satisfied with the outcome where you can go (higher up the chain of command first - and then the IPCC).

A303 was closed while we were out on a road ride, copper redirecting traffic by Stonehenge. We needed to go up to the next roundabout, so asked him what the score was. He said we'd be fine to go through, and waved us on cheerfully whilst stopping cars doing the same. Had the 303 to ourselves, was lovely. Mostly my dealings with the police have been fine, even when I've been in the wrong. Clearly some are tossers, just like in any other profession.

fuzzy-dunlop I know your a special needs troll so I have written the following with the shortest words I could find.

The police cars were not a road block they were parked on the cycle track they were not controlling the traffic which started to move about 5 minutes after the incident. The officers were in a group chatting when we came on them most of them were sitting on the bonnets of there cars. The traffic carried on as far as the eye could see.

I found out later that was no accident the traffic was simply backed up because of the number of cars trying to get into the seaside resort of Southport combined with a steam rally at the Riverside.

A report has been e-mailed to the Cheif Constable Lancashire police and to my MP and I will follow it up with a written complaint complete with pictures.

I know its a very bad idea to complain about the police and I fully expect to get stopped for various trivial and non existent reasons for the next year but I dont like bullies and this idiot was a bully with a badge who was getting his kicks swearing in front of a 15 year old girl. What a hero.

So there you go fuzzy did you understand all those big words Now hurry up put your riot gear on and get out there I am sure there is some crime going on

A few years ago I was hit by a car whilst out cycling, I reported it to the police who asked me to go 30 miles to report it. I had been cycling. I suggested that maybe getting an officer to come out to me would be better. An officer finally appeared. Statement given, I agreed that I would be willing to appear to give evidence.
4 months pass, I phone up to ask and get told that I had no right to ask them what was going on.
I wrote a personal letter to the Chief Constable.
Amazingly within 3 days I was personally called by his aide, had a detailed statement couriered to me with full insurance information (amongst other information).
As with all things, go straight to the top, then if that doesn't help go beyond.
Oh, and apparently there was no evidence to prosecute a driver on completely empty road knocking a brightly dressed cyclist off the road.

I'm a police officer, and I think you should complain, because our job is hard enough without idiots speaking to you like that. Go to your local station and ask to speak to the on-duty supervision (i.e. the sergeants), and make sure they log the complaint.

Mboy you got an e-mail I can message you about your comment.

mbonnes AT gmail DOT com

No point me trying to hide it RudeBoy as even if I believed anybody would use it to find my IP address and then use it to monitor me, my email address is all over various posts on this forum so it would only take 2 minutes for anybody who could be bothered to find it!

Munque-Chick, I will add that my statement is my opinion based upon my own experiences. I am sorry if this has caused any offence, and I'm glad there are some decent officers such as yourself, and obviously TenMen above, out there trying to be good civil servants, and uphold the law as it should be. I am sorry to say though that in my almost 29 years on this planet, I have many more bad memories of encounters with Police officers than I do good ones, not that there have been that many. The most upsetting fact for me though is as I stated, I know of far too many people that joined the Police Force (and got in!) for the wrong reasons. Those reasons being cos they know they'll be getting an "easy ride" and they get paid to bully and push people around (in their eyes).

I'm sorry, but a Police Officer is a Civil Servant. The moment someone puts on a Police Uniform, there are civil liberties they have to uphold. If I swear at people on the street and am generally abusive, rude and unhelpful, be it in front of a 15 year old girl or not, then I'm just an idiot (not that I would do this by the way, I believe in Karma and treat others as you would expect to be treated yourself) member of the public. If a Police Officer does this, then he is seriously undermining the whole point in having a Police Force in the first place! Police Officers are there to stop the thieves, bullies and thugs, not be them! One of my friends from uni (himself a mature student that had spent 6 years in Drug Squad prior to going to uni) left the Police Force because he was fed up with, in his words, "being the only straight copper in the station". He told me stories of how over his 6 years service, many drug raids would not make it back to the station, or at least half of the Coke/Heroin/Pills they raided would not make it back. Then the following week his seniors would buy a new car, or book a Carribean Cruise with their wife or something.

Of course, not everyone is a bad egg for which I'm grateful, but until there is a failsafe mechanism for making sure the bad eggs never get onto the Police Force in the first place, then the bad eggs are always going to spoil it for everyone else, which undermines the whole point of the Police Force in the first place.

I would go on, but I'm afraid I've probably alienated almost everybody on here by now, and cue the responses here to shoot me down in flames... Do what you will!

Oh, and Munque-Chick, I should apologise again. Can't remember the bloke's full name or where he was going to be stationed, remember he was a "James" but that's it. Didn't know him very well at all, I have always steered clear of bullies and thugs wherever possible in my life, and as he was one I tried wherever possible not to come into contact with him.

I was only joking! 😯

FWIW, Munque Chick come across on here as thoughtful and intelligent. As I'm sure most police bods are. We are talking about the tiny minority of police officers, the same way as it's a tiny minority of people at demonstrations which cause trouble for everyone else...

I was only joking! [8O]

I had guessed mate, but I posted my response aimed at those who hadn't guessed that you would be cos they probably don't get your tongue in cheek humour! 😉

I know its a very bad idea to complain about the police and I fully expect to get stopped for various trivial and non existent reasons for the next year

Helmet cams and youtube - that'll learn em! and also those exhibing dangerous driving too, many times i wish i'd had video evidence of on road shinanegans!

tl:dr

but its thugs like that who make the police get as little respect as they do.
him, and the animals at G20 need putting down.
if it was known they wouldnt get away with it, they wouldnt do it, and they would be respected much more.
they should be made an example of until nasty pieces of work like that dont even bother signing up

there was talk, of allowing police in "riot prevention" to remove thier numbers, so if they bash someone there cant be a complaint.
i dont see how he can refuse to give you his number if you demand it.
and i would, definatly.
and if he says "f*ck off or ill nick u" ide demand it anyway.
ide want it if it ment going down the cop shop in the back of a meat wagon because he needs to be forced to get a new job in McDonalds,
i honestly think its going to get out of hand in the near future.
with the way people have been treated by the police, innocent or not, if i was going to a protest that was likely to get a bit interesting, ide take a full face helmet and some pads.
they will start carrying bigger equipment, and it will spiral, in the same way the french have that blue army who basicly are sent in to bash the crap out of trouble maker.

I digress

follow TenMens advice, hes hit the nail on the head.

him, and the animals at G20 need putting down.

I'm not having that. They're not 'animals', they're Human Beings.

And British Citizens, who have the right to a fair trial. Same as anyone else.

They may be well out of order, but they deserve the same rights as any other Human Beings.

i disagree.

Putting down is indeed a strong way of putting it, i dont have visions of creeping up behind them with a captive bolt, exageration on my part.

but no, i dont see why anyone who has such distrespect for his fellow man, friend or stranger, that it allows him to treat them with less care than he would his own dog, should get any respect back.
and human beings dont come above any animal imo, why should they?

incidently, im no hippy either.

any tree hugger, who ignores polite requests to "cease being a prick" by a policeman with a shield and a stick, and poses a threat to anyone, police or other protestors, be it directly, or by causing an increase in unrest in an already fragile situation, deserves a thump on the head with a baton.

but only in the understanding that they got it because they were creating an undue risk to other people, not because the copper thought it would be funny, or was showing off to his mates.

we are supposed to have faith in these people!

in the same way the french have that blue army who basicly are sent in to bash the crap out of trouble maker.

He did however wondered why we did not invite him again.

I really cant see anything/one giving me faith back in the cops...

incidently, im no hippy either.

any tree hugger, who ignores polite requests to "cease being a prick" by a policeman with a shield and a stick, and poses a threat to anyone, police or other protestors, be it directly, or by causing an increase in unrest in an already fragile situation, deserves a thump on the head with a baton.

but only in the understanding that they got it because they were creating an undue risk to other people, not because the copper thought it would be funny, or was showing off to his mates.

i've said it before and i'll say it again.

without anyone willing to do anything about it the UK is turning into a fascist state

I rather think that the reason why people are saying that they've lost confidence in the police is because of their apparent lack of accountability, together with what appears to be a change in their role to that of stopping legal dissent.

Swearing in front of your niece is TOTALLY unjustified. You must complain but be prepared for his collegues to have "no recollection of those events".

You really must complain, it's sh*theads like him who are doing real and lasting damage to the old bill.

Well done for keeping calm I'd have ****in lost it and got myself nicked, I'm fuming just typing this!! 👿

you should complain there is no reason why a copper should swear at you and certainly NOT in front of a kid. Even if you were in the wrong (and I'm not saying you were as I have no clue as to the situation) you do not swear at people as it creates the opinions that people have of coppers. We're all thugs, bullys and on a power trip. I know quite a few which are and shouldn't be in the job, I put my complaints in to the deparment which deals with it and nothing gets done!
can you believe they still cannot do random drug tests in the police? they have to have with cause!!!!
I'm not offended by people's opinons it just sometimes make me sad as some of us do work hard to build up positive images when we know there are bad eggs out there!

happy days being a pig a the mo!!!! 😕

I put my complaints in to the deparment which deals with it and nothing gets done!

Probably little chance of a civilian's complaints being taken seriously then.

I've said it a million times before and I'll say it again 'coppers are good for **** all'

Coppers are just the kids at school that were either:

a) bullied
b) grasses to the teachers
c) crap with girls

or

d) all of the above

Alb I'd like to say I'm none of the above.

Sorry forgot to add...

Should you complain? Absolutely. Will it get you anywhere? Absolutely not. Police look after their own.

without anyone willing to do anything about it the UK is turning into a fascist state

Too true, some of the legislations that the government have brought in are ludicrous, taking away our liberties much?

[b]Pants On Fire[/b] - if you're still there? I've looked for your email address to give you a shout direct, but no luck. Like you, I am 49. I am an Inspector in the Police, not I think in your force area. Please report this incident. Phone the police and explain politely that you'd like to make a 'complaint against police' and ask them to send a supervisory officer out to see you. If it was one of my staff, I would certainly want to know. There might be reasons why they couldn't tell you what was going on, but they could have been polite, certainly doesn't sound like they were pressed for time.
Also it is a total and utter myth that you will then be 'targeted' by the Police - it just does not happen, there is no way for it to happen, and anyone who tried to make it happen would only by in big problems themselves.
Over to you.

can you believe they still cannot do random drug tests in the police? they have to have with cause!!!!

Honestly, you're having a laugh?!?!

I know of many companies out there that have legitimately introduced random compulsory drug tests. IMO it should be that way for the coppers, say one a year scheduled, and up to 3 others at any point in the year that can be conducted randomly (so as to make sure people aren't just avoiding using when they know there is one around the corner).

Takes the piss that they can't test a copper "without cause" if you ask me.

darrell - Member

i've said it before and i'll say it again.

without anyone willing to do anything about it the UK is turning into a fascist state

Wrong, insulting to anyone who has had to live in a fascist state, just plain stupid indeed. read some history.

For all of those kicking off about cops get real. ( not passing any judgement on the OPs complaint)

Cops are human beings just like any others. I have worked with cops and seen the abuse they have to put up with. for sure there are some bads ones but they on the whole are far better than they used to be and much fairer than the perception some of you have.

How on earth do you think our society could survive without cops? Who cleans up the metaphorical shit? You cop haters so live in a little false world - I bet the reason you have such a poor opinion of cops is because you got lippy when drunk and talked your way into being arrested.

I've always found them to be very professional and probably deal with them more regular than most on here, like all professions you will always get the odd fool. One bit of advice I give clients who start giving us or Police abuse on scene is to stop as the Police tend not to take it too well.

Was it such a ball ache to do what they asked they must have had a reason to stop people going through.

Was it such a ball ache to do what they asked they must have had a reason to stop people going through.

It would be unfair to say that my experiences with the police have been universally terrible, however, the bad outweigh the good. In fact the terrible outweigh the bad and each dealing seems to get progressively worse.

There was a time when, despite much evidence to the contrary I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Now, if at all possible I will avoid dealing with the police completely. Could go into plenty of specifics but can't be bothered.

being a copper sounds rubbish. my uncle were in CID and he'd spend months working on a case, only for the felon to get off on a technicality, even though everyone knew it woz im wot dun it guv.

he's got an amazing pension, mind you.

[i]No it wouldn't - but read the fing post and you might understand that the fing problem was the fing attitude not the fact that the police has closed the fing road. [/i]

How ironic, it would seem someone else has a bit of an attitude.

crikey I thought I had a low opinion of the police, some of the remarks on here !

What I can't understand is why ex-army officer Mr. pantsonfire didn't give the plebeian policeman a dose of what for ???

Kev

Keva, in this case the pen will be mightier than the sword.

Drac,

How ironic, it would seem someone else has a bit of an attitude.

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[i]I'm glad you understood the point I was making! [/i]

You what? Where did I quite you?

Give a man a flourescent jacket and a couple of stripes on his shoulder and .... boom!

bigrich - have you been reading Crazy Dave on sniffpetrol?

Having briefly glanced at the posts in this thread:

It's just society in general [:(]

Sums it up quite nicely. Think of the sh*t the police have to deal with, we have become incredibly rude as a society and since the police are made up from members of the same society isn't it any wonder when a few of them don't follow what they are trained to do?

There is no excuse for this police behaviour, regardless of the $hit they have to deal with. This 'few bad apples' attitude is all wrong, think of the number of teachers out there who put up with physical and verbal abuse, yet they don't resort to swearing at the pupils (any more), if they had we'd have bloody well heard about it you can be sure. They know damn well that they will not be allowed to get away with it. It's time the police started to think the same way.

El-bent good point remade on the society thing, bobbies are just a reflection of the rest of us, scarey isn't it. You should note also that the policwe are not trained the way they used to be and it shows.