[Closed] Who was banned today?

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He hasn't let me down

TandemJeremy - he thinks MTB started when he bummed Lester Noble at a windsurfist race then Lester ran back to Yorkshire to do something 'less popular' - it's not when riders first went offroad - it's when it started to smell of cash

At this point one normally says 'No he isn't a nob...' but in this case oh look the golfs on

What's with the different login?

Could this be the new Picolax thread?

I think it's got the potential to possibly turn into a thousand-poster. We need something entertaining like this now and then, it's good for our souls. 🙂

a long history of riding pre dating all of you

dude you have no idea about me, my riding or commercial history,

and you, you angry little man have no idea about anyone elses riding history, so how can you state that your riding pre dated any body else's?

You really are not very clever, are you?

the hate on this forum never ceases to amaze me!

no hate here, just frustration that somebody can be so angry and confrontational on a forum or apparently like minded individuals

franksinatra

What I find strange is how groups of similar and like-minded mostly nice people can find so many ways to disagree once they have access to Interwebs. If they meet eachother on the trail all is well and good. But on the Interwebs slight disagreements about eg 9or10speed become philosophical and divisional.

Ok I will admit that the evidence suggests a certain nob I have defended has on balance surpassed his own standards of cockdom but there is a certain kind of vibe on here and as a noob I suggest it is not entirely positive. Until Jedi posts then peeps realise they be pi55ing in each others chips in many ways.

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GRF = To55er. Tracy Mossely rides her XC rigs with SPDs, and shes a champ!!

I warned them of my style and it aint to everyone's taste, it comes of a long history of riding pre dating all of you and them and being a survivor of an era of freedom of speech and expression sadly long gone.

So being old allows you to be rude and offensive? Or does riding bikes for a long time make you that way?

i tried reading this thread but got bored/confuddled/sleepy but having met graeme , i like him as he does what he says he will do.
in fact, i'm coaching him in 2 hours time 🙂

[i]in fact, i'm coaching him in 2 hours time[/i]

let's hope he doesn't end up needing rescuing off the coast of Charmouth again as a result 😉

lol 🙂

Just be thankful you use flatties Tony.

i might put some spds on for s + g's 🙂

I'd guess from Graemef's perspective he feels he's held out an olive branch on here and wants to put it all behind him.

Which I think is fair enough - others have probably posted far worse, done their bans and been accepted back onto stw without much fuss.

He clearly has an abrasive posting style and maybe on forums where he's known its accepted - as a newbie on here it does make him seem like a bit of a nob though.

It's easy for me to say that as I wasn't on the receiving end of the emails, though.

Anyway, probably time for everyone to move on?

just my thoughts from the fence..

but this looks to me like industrial espionage..

a guy makes a few misguided pub style jokes on a forum.. not very offensive but maybe a bit out of context in the case of STW..

the next move is a tweet defaming an unknown industry bod as a homophobe..

hmm... that's a bit extreme.. and seems a little fishy.. that seems to me to be the catalyst for things getting blown out of proportion..

what followed was tantamount to sabotaging the guys career.. and for what again..?
I hope the guy doesn't lose too much business.. I'd be hopping mad too if someone had decided to pull the financial rug out from under my feet over a bit of a joke about pedals..

yunki

I think the current issue is not about his gay pedal thread.

It started with his failure to respond to requests to stop posting what could be perceived as homophobic comments. This resulted in a short term ban following which he sent abusive emails to STW towers.
When Mark tweeted his comments, there followed a further barrage of abusive and harassing emails to STW towers threatening all sorts of action.

The problem is his attitude. He could have respected the request to cease posting daft 'gay' comments originally and it would have all quietly gone away. Instead he's created a self inflicted PR disaster.

Why would STW want to sabotage his business? He's done a perfectly good job of that himself.

From the wiki link

In 1996, Fuller was briefly in the public eye again when London gossip columns linked him to the flamboyant Cuban singer Margarita Pracatan

That's the best bit of this whole thread 😀

Some people just don't like to be told, that's all it is.

That wiki page must be a joke.

Or at least I thought it was but it doesn't seem to have been updated since Jan?

No the Wiki is genuine...

I hope someone edits it with a link to this thread 😀

Well done for banning the poster, troll or not.

Its really nice to see the anti gay and anti women posts being cleaned up on this site the last few months.

There are plenty of really nice ordinary people on this site who don't find it necessary to run down harmless people, glad you are discouraging the few from spoiling a good community/forum.

Thanks mods. Good job done.

The only remarkable thing about the wikipedia page is that there are one or two small truths in it. He's definitely not the Contributor in Chief - that's his boyfriend

I can only guess this thread was reopened to **** with GRF business. Same as posting the ban on ****ter.
What ever he wrote in a private emails is exactly that private.
This thread is 100 times worse than the original spd/gay thread!

Double standards....?

But I'm sure stw are happy with the response!

This thread is 100 times worse than the original spd/gay thread!

How?

Bed/lie in it

So being old allows you to be rude and offensive?

pastcaring - Member
I can only guess this thread was reopened to **** with GRF business. Same as posting the ban on ****ter.
What ever he wrote in a private emails is exactly that private.
This thread is 100 times worse than the original spd/gay thread!

Double standards....?

But I'm sure stw are happy with the response!

No-one comes out of it looking good do they, loving the way the usual suspects jump on the hate wagon at every opportunity 🙄

Looks like stw made this bed by reopening this thread!

The thread was closed for roughly a couple of days. It was reopened after we had a discussion as to whether it should have been closed at all.

"Looks like stw made this bed by reopening this thread!"

I think Mark and STW come out of this very well they acted to stop some really dull and moronic homophobia they then got threatened and abused and they outed the petty minded fool and they then get a suggestion that they will be subjected to commercial pressure which they ignore.

GRF even in apology mode on the other hand.......

im disappointed. the standard of abuse in this thread has definitely tailed off. can someone say something awful please?

slowrider - Member
im disappointed. the standard of abuse in this thread has definitely tailed off. can someone say something awful please?

Piss off you pansy.

( Any good? Quite topical I thought... )

Mark etc were right to reopen it.
Threads like this should be positively encouraged and this one has loads of miles left in it. Not sure why but I love seeing people with senior positions who should know better behave completely inappropriately. Brilliant.
Loving the wiki page too.

oi, not directed at me. IM OUTRAGED!!! I havent used spd's in 5 years, make a conscious effort never to bend over in male company and never let the angle of my forearm to flat of hand go below 135 degrees. i am MANLY!!!!!!

Am I the only one that found it slightly ironic that someone with such a camp photo was making such comments?
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I've just realised: Surf Mat has gone through a portal into the future/past and become this GRF bloke.

Not that I'm saying mat is a homophobe of course, that [i]would[/i] be defamatory.

Are Eggbeaters technically SPD's...does it even matter? though I must say they played up something rotten on yesterday evenings cruise.

Probably time to go back to cruising in SPD's I think.

Not that I'm saying mat is a homophobe of course, that would be defamatory

Well, I have no fear in saying that SerfMat is a homophone. I call it like I hear it

201?

a guy makes a few misguided pub style jokes on a forum.. not very offensive but maybe a bit out of context in the case of STW..

the next move is a tweet defaming an unknown industry bod as a homophobe..

The guy came across as a ranting homophobe in his posts - he can't really claim defamation when there's plenty of evidence that suggests that the accusation is true. You can't just be repeatedly blatantly homophobic, or racist, or sexist, even after being asked to stop, then say, "Heeey, I was only joking! I was being ironic! Gosh, people are so [i]sensitive[/i]!"

The guy's lucky that he runs his own business, because I know if anyone at our place posted anything like that on a public forum and could be identified by our username, we'd be booted out for gross misconduct faster than a greased whippet.

you have greased whippets? we don't even get plain hobnobs here 🙁

hilldodger - is there a pattern to this kind of thing then?

pastcaring - I very much doubt that the people contributing to this thread were on the verge of buying a BottleRocket and hucking it off cliffs. Apart from jedi of course, but I dont expect he'll be giving his back.

winterfold - Member
hilldodger - is there a pattern to this kind of thing then?

Well it does appear to me that there is a tendency 'here' to see who can be the most politically correct/sophisticated/sceptical, then once the bandwagon start rolling the lynch mob sharpen their virtual pitchforks....

....try starting a thread on certain subjects - try religion, non-mainstream medicine, cycling helmets or anything that may be remotely construed as an 'ism' for starters and see some of the responses 🙄

..but hey, it's only t'internet and it's not like anyone's [i]really[/i] bothered

then once the bandwagon start rolling the lynch mob sharpen their virtual pitchforks....

the bloke took out a large samurai sword and did the job himself.

😯 [b]RACIST!! Burn him!! [/b]
(sharpens pitchfork)

RACIST!! Burn him!!
(sharpens pitchfork)

The guy came across as a ranting homophobe in his posts

no he didn't..
I believe he was being disparaging about pedals.. not homosexuals

You can't just be repeatedly blatantly homophobic, or racist, or sexist, even after being asked to stop, then say, "Heeey, I was only joking! I was being ironic! Gosh, people are so sensitive!"

The TJ defence.

I haven't been suspended in a while. I DID get an email telling me to stop trolling, though. Does that count?

Thing is Woppit, you've used the Edinburgh defence yourself on more than one occaision:
The odious 'Comic Relief' thread springs to mind.

Were you trolling, serious, or just displaying a shocking lack of taste?
That's the probllem with crying wolf, we'll never know for sure.

the Edinburgh defence

Ah, I remember him living (seemingly permanently) on the Boards Mag forum I dipped into every now and again when more into windsurfing than I am today. Did seem a bit of a dick, or at the very least liked to act the agent provocateur.

I believe he was being disparaging about pedals.. not homosexuals

Uh huh, Ooookay... he was saying that using SPDs is 'gay' and that homophobia is term that "strictly speaking [it] means fear of Benders, propagated by the benders themselves in their desire for acceptance as a lifestyle choice". He was equating something that he sees as being negative (SPD use) with homosexuality, therefore it's not unreasonable by any stretch of the imagination to assume that he's a bigot.

Ta!

It was used so often by Al before his miraculous rebirth as a paragon of forum etiquette that I think it's unfair to name it after only one inhabitant of that wonderful city.

hilldodger - upsetting self-appointed interweb prefects like that is quite on brand for some of his gear - he'll probably book the time spent on the forum to marketing and then go and show off about it on dirt or pinkbike. It generally works quite well for him on the windsurfing forums - the people he winds up you would not want to be seen using the same sails as etc (or pedals 😉 )

mrs toast.. you may well be correct

I guess I have just gotten used to the word 'gay' as meaning deeply unfashionable..

which is how it is almost exclusively used these days.. certainly amongst the youf dem..
who are actually the custodians of our language..

we are merely the retreating army.. limping home empty handed with our tails between our legs.. muttering hollow and outdated insults to one another in our bitter defeat..

the Edinburgh defence

"Earls Court, via Whitechapel, using the Edinburgh defence (and no helmet)"

[i]which is how it is almost exclusively used these days[/i]

really? I'll be sure to let these people know then;

[url= http://www.brightonpride.org/ ]http://www.brightonpride.org/[/url]

really? I'll be sure to let these people know then;

and that defeats my point how exactly..?

In order to put the whole argument into perspective maybe we need some feedback from the supposed harmed 3rd parties

ie are there any homosexuals who will own up to riding flats and not 'clip ins' thus destroying the original argument !!!

[i]and that defeats my point how exactly..? [/i]

Most of the participants would be mortified to think they are considered deeply unfashionable for a start...

I think the last thing you should be expecting is the participants in Brighton Pride to be unfashionable!! Norwich Pride on the other hand...

Oh - and for the record Chris S - I'm bi and ride flats (with an occasional foray onto Time ATACs for the longer rides on the CX...)

Rachel

that's not what I'm saying at all wwwwaswaswas..

I'm going to be a little preposterous now and draw a comparison with the word 'gnarly'

my nan is gnarled.. and gnarly.. does that mean that it requires a great deal of balls and skill to ride her..?

also her behaviour is often considered by her peers to be most queer..

In order to put the whole argument into perspective maybe we need some feedback from the supposed harmed 3rd parties

Do you need to be a 'harmed 3rd party' to be offended by an inappropriate use of a word?

[i]that's not what I'm saying at all wwwwaswaswas..[/i]

I did, of course, realise that.

You have to realise that, for a large part of a lot of gay mens lives they've had to accept a label that is used as an insult by quite a large part of the population.

In the past few years by younger people it has begun to mean 'uncool/rubbish' but it's still an insult.

Surely nobodys offended by the use of the word "gay"?
It's quite a PC word AFAIK.
I think the suggestion that gays lack courage/are unfashionable/effeminate (ie wearing SPDs) is the part to get offended by. If you can be bothered to.

Am I only a woofter when clipped in?

Time to let this go I reckon. The bloke is not going to make money doing standup and ask a gay person if you want to know what words/context are offensive.

No-one is offended by the use of any word. It's the context of the word that matters. If someone called me gay, I'd be fine unless it was done in an objectionable manner - like it was something 'wrong' or somehow degrading.

Rusty Spanner - Member
Thing is Woppit, you've used the Edinburgh defence yourself on more than one occaision:
The odious 'Comic Relief' thread springs to mind.

Were you trolling, serious, or just displaying a shocking lack of taste?

Shocking lack of taste, probably. It's a specialite de la maison.

I guess.. somewhat haphazardly.. that as in all walks of life.. some folk will strive to take offence at things regardless of their sexual orientation..

and we should all respect that

No-one is offended by the use of any word. It's the context of the word that matters.

Want to bet?

also

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In the end it doesn't matter if anyone was offended - it's Mark's forum and he can do what he likes with it.

Oh - and for the record Chris S - I'm bi and ride flats (with an occasional foray onto Time ATACs for the longer rides on the CX...

my nan is gnarled.. and gnarly.. does that mean that it requires a great deal of balls and skill to ride her..?

Lol - I never thought of Time ATACs as perverted???

Rachel

I thought gay was another word for happy and was surprised by all this blather. I am stuck in the victorian timewarp that is living near Peterborough though....

Oh, and I though Ghey was what happened to a dyslexics white's if put on a mixed wash with coloureds...

ATACs - have you not [i]seen[/i] the lumps and knobbles? Filth, I tell you, absolutely disgusting!

*Looks in, Can't be bothered.*

🙄

Looks in and has a giggle at the 'Edinburgh defence', and then thinks STW poster's in double standards shocker! Is that really a surprise to any of us?

This has been the gayest thread ever