[Closed] Who was banned today?

Magazines need distributors to advertise, distributors need magazine readers to know about their products, especially if they are niche and expensive (so more Singletrack than MBR).
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I respectfully and politely suggest that is in both your long-term interests to find a way of putting this behind you without either of you losing face so you can do some trade in the future

I would not involve *his* clients - only publish what has happened between STW and him.

Then when his clients find it - who says they don't already read STW - they will pull the plug.

Do surf sales even represent that many bike brands. Large ones?

Dakine packs, Transition bikes.

FWIW I thought it was so stupidly over the top thatit had to be a joke - liek a clarkson esque persona doing this. No one is that thick. It was still a rubbish joke and he kept digging and he should have stopped. His rants at STW towers seem rather unedifying and [ from what I can tell] make him appear a little unhinged/unpleasant - he did not take the ban well clearly. Ah well there is a long tradition in over reacting to a STW ban

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my whole family.. that's four generations and inlaws too.. all shout "gaylord" out of the car window when passing a roadie..

Quality, I think im gonna take up this practise. My lads 2 and half, think its a good age to get him into it 🙂

I rember the good old days when all mountain bikers hated all roadies.

hehe.

Can I just take the opportunity to say that both the "community" and the mods do a really good job of dealing with things like homophobia etc on here - it really is a pretty fab place to be...

There's always going to be an idiot come along once in a while but they don't last long (or we all learn to laugh at them rather than with them!!)

Thanks!!

Rachel

+1

Although the Twitter stuff is legendary, can't believe that guy can have that attitude and still be in business, the man's a PR disaster.

Enough of this bullshit already...

What none of you appreciate, is the bastards asked me to come and post here in the first place, I warned them of my style and it aint to everyone's taste, it comes of a long history of riding pre dating all of you and them and being a survivor of an era of freedom of speech and expression sadly long gone.

So I'm banned whatever, it ain't the first time and it probably wont be the last, that isn't my beef.

My beef was a) No warning and b) when the warning did come an hour or so late and I responded with an 'LoL you'll be sorry', some patronising fella who should never be let near a keyboard, never mind a twitter account then proceeded to act in a manner that drew down the red mist. Spreading all sorts of bile and accusations which I do have recorded, then encouraging this nasty lynch mob attitude that is so prevalent these days once cowardly folk spot an easy target.

Now to defuse all this, if there are any real Gay fellas here (note the use of Gay rather than Ghey which means something entirely different) and they took offence (which I very much doubt) then they have my wholehearted and abject apology and my assurance that in real life I am no such thing and don't really believe that pedals with clips in could provide a lasting civil partnership. (Nor that northerners get confused when the light reflects badly when they ride on slag heaps.)

As to the spat with the STW heirachy as it since turns out the guy Mark is (I was genuinely unaware at the time) well thats for us to work out should we feel the need, but that shouldn't be done publicly, the very reason we're in the position we are in.

Now I'll not be bothering you again, you can continue shaving your legs, clipping in, mincing down singletrack, discussing which tyre has the fewest nobs and gently evolving into the Roadie scene you seem to so desperately crave, I'm still the old school who doesn't care for Roads and Roadies..

I'll say it again to you, I'm sorry I bothered you and apologise to those that were offended.

Goodnight and Good Riding. (Try and remember why we're all here now and then)

being a survivor of an era of freedom of speech and expression sadly long gone

You [i]are[/i] funny!

it comes of a long history of riding pre dating all of you and them and being a survivor of an era of freedom of speech and expression sadly long gone.

What a tosser. I very much doubt you were riding before all of us and your attitude stinks to high heaven.

just going to copy and paste this to all the brands you distribute.

might point out that your an angry old man aswell.

it comes of a long history of riding pre dating all of you and them and being a survivor of an era of freedom of speech and expression sadly long gone.

What a tosser. I very much doubt you were riding before all of us and your attitude stinks to high heaven.

Now there you go again.. dude you have no idea about me, my riding or commercial history, suffice to say I was there at the beginning and pretty much started the ATB scene in the early 80's, but then like me you're welcome to your opinion and thousands have died to ensure you remain free to voice it...

Now gimme a break eh? I said I won't be back, damn page hand't had time to reload before one of you sad b'stards kicks in..

I am now gone and won't look back.

bet you do.

I'm still the [s]old[/s] [b]new[/b] school who doesn't care for Roads and Roadies

fixed it for you

bikes are bikes, just ride them 🙂

Right - so I was riding real offroad routes in the early 70s on my own adapted bike. So yes - your statement was bullshine - as for starting the ATB scene - get a grip sunshine.

Charlie Kelly? Geoff Apps?

Whatalotofnonsense.

Very entertaining though. 😀

can I have a free Transition Bandit please?
email me

I was there at the beginning and pretty much started the ATB scene in the early 80's

Are you a Rockstar Vatican Assassin too?

if there are any real Gay fellas here

The fact your phrasing seems to suggest that you think that is unlikely shows how removed from the real world you are. You sound like a prize dick, full marks to Singletrack for not want to do business with you.

I thought you were going? I guess not.

If the post prior to this one was serious then... well, all I can do is shake my head and wonder "did I just teleport back in time to high school?" (the difference between "Gay" and "Ghey", really?! Let alone actually using the word "ghey" non-ironically?)

Put it this way, if I didn't know you were older, I'd guess you were about 15.

As someone new to the MTB community, you're not giving me a very good impression - ie, if you are representative of the MTB community at large then I'm not sure I want any part of it "Old School" or not, but it seems that you're the exception not the rule.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graeme_Fuller

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pretty much started the ATB scene in the early 80's

what a shame that he won't be around to prove that statement.....

Don't scare him away folks - his delusions are pretty funny.

What a tool!! What's with the different login?

I can't wait to forward this thread to a mate who's sells a lot of Dakine stuff in the NE.

graemef, you appear to be the Gerald Ratner of the mtb world.

Go back to surfing, perhaps they suffer your attitude as you were there at the infacy of worldwide surfing.

a survivor of an era of freedom of speech and expression sadly long gone.

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He hasn't let me down

TandemJeremy - he thinks MTB started when he bummed Lester Noble at a windsurfist race then Lester ran back to Yorkshire to do something 'less popular' - it's not when riders first went offroad - it's when it started to smell of cash

At this point one normally says 'No he isn't a nob...' but in this case oh look the golfs on

What's with the different login?

Could this be the new Picolax thread?

I think it's got the potential to possibly turn into a thousand-poster. We need something entertaining like this now and then, it's good for our souls. 🙂

a long history of riding pre dating all of you

dude you have no idea about me, my riding or commercial history,

and you, you angry little man have no idea about anyone elses riding history, so how can you state that your riding pre dated any body else's?

You really are not very clever, are you?

the hate on this forum never ceases to amaze me!

no hate here, just frustration that somebody can be so angry and confrontational on a forum or apparently like minded individuals

franksinatra

What I find strange is how groups of similar and like-minded mostly nice people can find so many ways to disagree once they have access to Interwebs. If they meet eachother on the trail all is well and good. But on the Interwebs slight disagreements about eg 9or10speed become philosophical and divisional.

Ok I will admit that the evidence suggests a certain nob I have defended has on balance surpassed his own standards of cockdom but there is a certain kind of vibe on here and as a noob I suggest it is not entirely positive. Until Jedi posts then peeps realise they be pi55ing in each others chips in many ways.

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GRF = To55er. Tracy Mossely rides her XC rigs with SPDs, and shes a champ!!

I warned them of my style and it aint to everyone's taste, it comes of a long history of riding pre dating all of you and them and being a survivor of an era of freedom of speech and expression sadly long gone.

So being old allows you to be rude and offensive? Or does riding bikes for a long time make you that way?

i tried reading this thread but got bored/confuddled/sleepy but having met graeme , i like him as he does what he says he will do.
in fact, i'm coaching him in 2 hours time 🙂

[i]in fact, i'm coaching him in 2 hours time[/i]

let's hope he doesn't end up needing rescuing off the coast of Charmouth again as a result 😉

lol 🙂

Just be thankful you use flatties Tony.

i might put some spds on for s + g's 🙂

I'd guess from Graemef's perspective he feels he's held out an olive branch on here and wants to put it all behind him.

Which I think is fair enough - others have probably posted far worse, done their bans and been accepted back onto stw without much fuss.

He clearly has an abrasive posting style and maybe on forums where he's known its accepted - as a newbie on here it does make him seem like a bit of a nob though.

It's easy for me to say that as I wasn't on the receiving end of the emails, though.

Anyway, probably time for everyone to move on?

just my thoughts from the fence..

but this looks to me like industrial espionage..

a guy makes a few misguided pub style jokes on a forum.. not very offensive but maybe a bit out of context in the case of STW..

the next move is a tweet defaming an unknown industry bod as a homophobe..

hmm... that's a bit extreme.. and seems a little fishy.. that seems to me to be the catalyst for things getting blown out of proportion..

what followed was tantamount to sabotaging the guys career.. and for what again..?
I hope the guy doesn't lose too much business.. I'd be hopping mad too if someone had decided to pull the financial rug out from under my feet over a bit of a joke about pedals..

yunki

I think the current issue is not about his gay pedal thread.

It started with his failure to respond to requests to stop posting what could be perceived as homophobic comments. This resulted in a short term ban following which he sent abusive emails to STW towers.
When Mark tweeted his comments, there followed a further barrage of abusive and harassing emails to STW towers threatening all sorts of action.

The problem is his attitude. He could have respected the request to cease posting daft 'gay' comments originally and it would have all quietly gone away. Instead he's created a self inflicted PR disaster.

Why would STW want to sabotage his business? He's done a perfectly good job of that himself.

From the wiki link

In 1996, Fuller was briefly in the public eye again when London gossip columns linked him to the flamboyant Cuban singer Margarita Pracatan

That's the best bit of this whole thread 😀