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[Closed] Who has the lightest full suss bike on here?

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Time for a weight weenie/willy waving thread..

I'll start - yeti asrc with sids, xt, x1700 wheels and a fox dropper.

Comes in at a fairly accurate 24.3lbs including pedals..

I'm assuming plenty of folks have lighter machines, but what are they and who has the lightest? (i reckon I could get mine sub 23lbs without the dropper and a set of carbon wheels)...

Bikes weighed on bathroom scales are to be discounted!


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 7:03 pm
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Seem to remember someone on here had built up a sub 20lb FS Trek somehow.....


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 7:05 pm
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Njee I think, 19.8lbs trek

Though I think the lightest ever was a giant trance with DH kit and a 100g saddle...

The manufacturer of my xc bike claims a sub 23lb build is possible, but I reckon it would be terrible.


 
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This should be fun 😆


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 7:12 pm
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Me.


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 7:13 pm
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Not on here but...

[url= http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135256 ]7kg stumpjumper[/url]

I wouldn’t ride it if you paid me...

Edit just noticed he’s running rigid forks. I’m sure there was someone who had done similar but had essentially removed all the internals of the forks, even cut bits out of the lower legs?


 
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Get those magic scales out everyone!


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 7:18 pm
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didn't Njee remove his fork damper to reduce weight!?


 
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Pounds? What is this the 60's all over again?

Yeesh, my Orbea Oiz is 10.5kg and that's with dropper and boat anchor xt cassette. I reckon sub 10kg would be easy if I didn't have the dropper so I'm going to have to put a bit more thought (and cash) into it...

I think [url= http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=144357 ]this guy[/url] has the most usable weightweenie xc bikes I've seen in a long time.


 
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Not on here but...

7kg stumpjumper

I wouldn’t ride it if you paid me...

Edit just noticed he’s running rigid forks. I’m sure there was someone who had done similar but had essentially removed all the internals of the forks, even cut bits out of the lower legs?

He doesn't trust carbon frames but is using homemade carbon parts on his stem/bars. And also removed bolts from his brake rotors to save weight. Interesting.


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 7:25 pm
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I wouldn’t ride it if you paid me...

Its not actually a full sus either as he has a rigid fork on it..

I have to say thats the weirdest build I've ever seen in my life, reasonably heavy alloy full sus frame and rigid forks, then the lightest kit hanging off it..

I love how he says he doesn't trust carbon frames!!


 
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didn't Njee remove his fork damper to reduce weight!?

I believe so. He also ran helium in his tyres and water in his brake lines (as it's lighter than oil).


 
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I may attach some helium balloons to my helmet then try to get some KOMs on strava

some of the effort those guys go to on the weight weenies threads is insane..the dude sanding the paint off his spokes to save weigh seems overkill to me..


 
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My Scalpel is 22.3lb with the pedals on.


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 7:49 pm
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My 29er Trek Superfly SL Carbon fs Bike is 22lbs with sids, am classic race, 1x11 XX1, EC90 Carbon post n bars


 
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My old 26er scalpel was a true ww build - it was in the 18s with stupid tyres but 19s with sensible and more rideable rubber attached.

My habit black is around 22 with 2.3 nicks and 2x11 xtr.


 
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12.5kg or 27lbs.

Not bad for a 170mm full sus including pedals, dropper and 2.4 protection casing tyres.


 
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12.5kg or 27lbs.

Not bad for a 170mm full sus including pedals, dropper and 2.4 protection casing tyres.

Indeed, it’s the same as my 100mm travel carbon xc bike, with 120mm forks, the lightest wheelset DT Swiss make, 2.2 xc tyres and XX1. Chapeau...


 
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I've never actually weighed any of my bikes or components and given the size of me I tend to buy for (perceived) ruggedness and durabilty so I don't think I will be winning any lightest bike competitions. Out of curiosity, if you take the rider as a constant how much of an advantage would a 22-23lb bike have over a 31-32lb bike in either average MPH or secs per hour?


 
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Not on here but...

7kg stumpjumper

I wouldn’t ride it if you paid me...

Read some of the thinking behind his bike... He (let's face it, it will be a he) is rather special. Need to entice him here for the entertainment


 
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Indeed, it’s the same as my 100mm travel carbon xc bike, with 120mm forks, the lightest wheelset DT Swiss make, 2.2 xc tyres and XX1. Chapeau...

It helps that I'm short and it's quite a small bike.


 
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I’ve just bought a 10 year old Orange 5. Somehow it weighs 32lb. That’s with me ditching the dropper and putting light tyres on it.
My new Anthem clocks in at 26.


 
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What did you expect the 10 year old Orange 5 to weigh?


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 8:41 pm
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About the same as a 19 year old Marin. 29lb.
Even a new 4 clocks in about 30. God knows why.


 
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Having just read the whole of that linked thread I couldn't agree more

Read some of the thinking behind his bike... He (let's face it, it will be a he) is rather special. Need to entice him here for the entertainment

Could make for some interesting threads

Btw none of my bikes are particularly light but I wanted to join the conversation !


 
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Circa 2011 they made a bigish deal about the 5 slimming down to 30lbs for the first time. Cant remember how high a spec it was to get that weight. Always been a slightly heavy bike. Good bike, though I always thought mine climbed like a bit of a dog.

If your 19 year old Marin is a mount vision or similar (I had a 1999 I think) I’d expect that to be considerably lighter than the 5.


 
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Apart from conscious experiments to drop weight, over the years my bikes have nearly all arrived at about 30lbs, plus or minus.

By the time I've added tyre that last, brakes that work, pedals that are realistically serviceable, etc, etc. They all end up in the same place.

Except my Banshee. That's a 33lb trail bike, but I built it to step up to the more lairy side of trail thumping.


 
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170mm meta am v2, comes in a 9.9kg,yoi can borrow my scales for 50 quid a go, best weigh saving value anywhere 😉


 
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State wheel size when quoting weights as 26ers could be built far lighter than 29ers.

My old Kona FS weighed 21.5lbs, but I'm not sure that's possible with a 29er without going nuts. The wheels were 1250 and the tyres about 400g.

Taxi25 has a carbon Superfly FS 29er that's 22lbs or so he says. Having lifted it I can believe it.

Out of curiosity, if you take the rider as a constant how much of an advantage would a 22-23lb bike have over a 31-32lb bike in either average MPH or secs per hour?

No idea BUT it will feel far nicer going uphill. There is a world of difference between those weights, far more than you would expect. Bikes that light surge forward so quickly when you mash the pedals. Because the wheels spin up so much more easily you can be in a higher gear for your pedal stroke and gain that much more speed more quickly. If you have some windy trails that require you to brake and accelerate a lot and move the bike around it's fantastic; if you have some technical climb then the bike seems to leap forwards and upwards so easily.

If you are simply winching up a big smooth hill it makes naff all difference.


 
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I’ve just bought a 10 year old Orange 5. Somehow it weighs 32lb. That’s with me ditching the dropper

27.2? Selling? 🙂


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 10:32 pm
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10 year old Five is 26"


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 10:34 pm
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10.8kg Scott Spark 720 with carbon wheels,dropper and XTR 1x11. Could be substantially lighter, but its very rideable as is.


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 10:36 pm
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Molgrips. Left dropper with the seller give him a call.
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-orange-5-medium


 
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2011 Anthem 10.2kg Small frame, carbon bars/seatpost/saddle etc I still have it and enjoy a ride on it now and again.


 
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Not me


 
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I ride a Transition, light bike threads are not for the likes of me.


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 11:42 pm
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There’s a bloke on mtbr whom built a mojo hd3 at 23lbs just over for his mrs, does that count!


 
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I took 1lb off the HT without spending that much, and was pretty happy. Then I weighed it - 29lb.

It'll be 28lb or maybe a bit less with summer tyres on, but still I think I'll need to try harder.

The fact that the OP has to state his weight includes pedals says it all though. It ends up like people that quote all their rides in km.


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 11:55 pm
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The fact that the OP has to state his weight includes pedals says it all though. It ends up like people that quote all their rides in km.

eh, dont follow?


 
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Yeesh, my Orbea Oiz is 10.5kg and that's with dropper and boat anchor xt cassette. I reckon sub 10kg would be easy

I’m interested know which model - the M30? - that is and if thats the OEM weight?


 
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my SS is heavier than some of those bikes [ 26 er as well] not that i have made any effort to make it light


 
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[quote=Kryton57 ]everyone - Member
Yeesh, my Orbea Oiz is 10.5kg and that's with dropper and boat anchor xt cassette. I reckon sub 10kg would be easy
I’m interested know which model - the M30? - that is and if thats the OEM weight?

It's the M10 so the same frame as the top end model. Not stock no, different saddle, mt zoom carbon bars, giant carbon wheels (~1600g I think), Ti bolts and swapped to schwalbes.

Could easily get to 10kg or less if I changed to an xd driver and got a sram cassette, sorted out all the cables (really want to get a twinloc lockout, the fox 3 position one is rubbish!) etc. Once I've got those sorted then it's big things like new cranks and brakes (both XT at the minute so not complete boat anchors)


 
Posted : 02/11/2017 12:40 am
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Sometimes I do wonder where all the weight in a bike is

My Caad x weighs only 200 g less than my ASCR. Sure its got 2x10 tiagra gears on it, but its also got a frame weighing not much more than a kilo, carbon forks etc etc

I had assumed it would weigh around the 8.5-9 kg range

Just goes to show how much all the 'cheap' original parts that are on there must add up to, finishing kit etc etc


 
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Does it really matter? Me & my mates went through this 20 years ago & the general consensus was, 'if your that bothered about weight, have a shit, shave & a haircut before you go out on the bike'.

BUT... as in loads of threads on here have testified to, folk love to spout off about stuff like ^^^.

Anyway, I'm about 3 stone overweight so couldn't give a rats about how heavy my sub 29lb 2010 Orange Fiveling cabinet is. 🙂


 
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And for whoever asked about how much difference a light bike makes for the average rider..

Theres a 1.2 mile climb near me that takes about 6 minutes on my 7kg road bike at a 240 watt average

On the aformentioned CX bike weighing 3kg more (albeit with 35mm gravel tyres rather than slicks) it takes 90 seconds more with similar power.

So i defintely think weight makes a big difference, far more than losing 3kg body mass.


 
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