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In our cul de sac (?) is the perfect place to learn long distance wheelies and manuals...I want to...my fear is not the bike/me/falling off ...its the fact I feel like a pillock in front of all the neighbours..a middle aged man learning to wheelie.! I'm going to get over it this year though and dedicate 20mins a day to mastering the art once and for all....


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 1:46 pm
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.its the fact I feel like a pillock in front of all the neighbours..a middle aged man learning to wheelie.

There's a dirt road behind some allotments near my house. It's where I go to practise my middle-aged wheelies away from curious eyes.


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 2:07 pm
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Weird isn't it, how it's the nirvana few of us will ever achieve.

I will never forget riding through the back streets of London late at night. I was on my way back from a weekend's riding in Wales and was cycling across town to change from one train to another. I stopped at a junction just as a ghostly vision cruised by from left to right at barely walking pace. It was a kid on a MTB, front wheel fully aloft, looking for all the world like that's just how he gets about town.

Little ****.


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 2:11 pm
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It used to bother me that I couldn't do a proper manual, then I realised that I'm just going for a bike ride not auditioning for the circus and now I don't care 🙂

FWIW it's the fear (and memory) of looping out that prevents me from properly committing to a manual. I cover the brake, but for some reason my brain freezes and I'm on my arse feeling sorry for myself before I remember to pull the lever 😳


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 2:15 pm
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I'm learning at the bmx track - my 6 year old is really into bmx so I may as well take a bike and get some skills out of it too! I manage to successfully manual a couple of doubles and rollers in a session, but fail most of the time. By the end of the summer I reckon I'll have them nailed... (hopefully before I turn 44 in August). I did my first successful gate start on saturday, too. Fun!


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 2:19 pm
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I bought some flat peddles so I could practice manualling, for bailing out after going past the balance point. Never dared do that on SPDs.

This is on the commuter MTB so had to remove the full mudguards too.

Once I've purchased some riser bars to replace the flat bars I'll certainly be able to manual.


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 2:24 pm
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I can. Took plenty of practice though. Weirdly its easier on my anthem than it is on some of my other bikes but I'm best on my bmx where having a rubbish back brake means you have to learn to balance and not rely on the brake. It was harder to learn than I expected because I'm very good at wheelies (over 2 miles sometimes). I thought knowing the balance point and how to move around the balance point would help but it doesn't really.


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 2:50 pm
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So what we need is a secret warehouse, a bit like fight club, where middle aged men can learn to manual away from prying eyes... 😯


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 2:53 pm
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I have a manualling dream at least once a month.

Why is it so prevalent?


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 2:55 pm
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So what we need is a secret warehouse, a bit like fight club, where middle aged men can learn to manual away from prying eyes...

We don't like to talk about it....


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 2:57 pm
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This is pretty much what the MNPR were up to last night.

It was embarrassing.


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 3:06 pm
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I did one once that just hung there.............. As if it was an everyday occurrence and NO ONE saw it, the same bit of trail I ride on my local loop, an old woodland trail that kids have been building in for years, there's kind of a self made natural table top the hight of a coffee table and the length 3 cars, I'd been popping it and getting a few bike lengths but no more then I thought about it more dropping the heels bending legs to straighten it out and there it was, I rolled out the other side rolling the slope just magically gliding along then as I entered a fast corner I nipped the brake and it was over, I've tried replicating it since and to be honest it's embarrassing,

Not long after I was leaving the cafe at Fairholmes and pedalling up the left hand side of the res the incline there seems purrfect for manwells.......... This bloke obviously thought so, until he looped out, took the skin off his elbows, knees and ankles, he was in a right state. That kind of brought home how stupid I would look in a crumpled heap sprottled out with families looking on, so I try not to indulge now.


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 3:52 pm
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Weirdly its easier on my anthem than it is on some of my other bikes

Weirdly I found that too.

And Reigns, must be the suspension but I took one of each round cannock on a demo day and both for no good reason would quite happily sit on the back wheel all day, I could even trials hop the anthem in SPD's!


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 4:02 pm
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A rather splendid 'how to' video here from the ever ebullient Sam Pilgrim, featuring his pleasingly irreverent delivery, which is such a welcome relief from the slightly slick smugness of GMBN's Youtube 'how to' manual video.

It also shows his younger brother practicing (and failing) to manual - which makes me realise that falling off while practicing is okay - and that I was probably on the right track with this. Before I gave up.


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 5:04 pm
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On a skills course
getting it lofted nicely
looped out
couldn't walk for a couple of weeks
At 55 I'm going to pass on this


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 5:16 pm
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I can manual. I find it's something I have to do regularly to maintain the ability to do it. Very useful skill to have under your belt!


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 5:20 pm
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I can do around 10 metres or so. I think manuals are actually pretty hard to learn, whereas wheelies are comparatively easy - think the fact that seated helps a lot as once you get good at wheeling you find yourself rolling along on back wheel on the balance point and don't need to pedal so a seated manual almost. Standing seems to take a lot more effort to get and maintain the balance point


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 5:20 pm
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I can't but I'd say if I ever could master the art of a manual it will be on my anthem 26er.. I can throw that bike about no problem. But I can't see it ever happening on my 5 27.5, it just seems to long and heavy!


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 5:26 pm
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And Reigns, must be the suspension but I took one of each round cannock on a demo day and both for no good reason would quite happily sit on the back wheel all day, I could even trials hop the anthem in SPD's!

This is very interesting, I was out riding and trying to improve my manualing prowess on my Ragley Blue Pig the other day and was also thinking at the same time about the Giant Anthem 27.5 on pauls cycle for £900. Hmmm!!


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 5:34 pm
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Continuous flat land manual, no. A terrain avoiding short manual (say 20M) yes!

You deffo need to practice on your own bike, or stick to one bike to practice, as the same amount of 'body english' to manual my Dune would see me sat firmly on my ass when riding my c456 😉

(TOP TIP: down [b]then[/b] back, not back and down at once.......)


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 5:40 pm
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In theory...although my ability to do one seems inversely proportional to the utility. i.e I can manual down my driveway (pointless), I cannot manual through a puddle (where it would be quite useful)...


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 5:41 pm
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On my BMX, yep, for as long as I like, hop into them, hop out of them, do them across picnic tables! Manual king here! 8) 8) *

* 10 years ago when I was a teenage BMX bandit! I'm now rubbish and fat and can do a few meters if I'm very lucky on the MTB!


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 5:42 pm
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I also harbour "those" dreams, usually after seeing a video ( recently the Bernard Kerr one with the effortless one handed manual). I only ever tend to practice when I am on call for work though as I can do it close to home, this means I am usually wearing my full equine vet regale of moleskins and check shirt (non trendy variety) and dodgy tie, which probably detracts from the back wheel look I am aiming for!


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 5:46 pm
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I have a manualling dream at least once a month.

Why is it so prevalent?

I'm sure Freud would have something to say about that.. 😉

(There is something a little bit phallic about it as an act, probably)


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 6:11 pm
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I've got this
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10 minutes from my house.The 5th straight is 11 rollers in row.I've managed to manual all 11 in one go 3 times.......out of about 200 attempts.My legs turn to jelly after about the 7th one.


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 6:32 pm
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I can do manuals long enough for trail usage.
But, tbh, time wise, my average fart is longer than my average manual.


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 7:16 pm
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Used to be able to manual the bmx (brakeless too) about 10 years ago. Now on the mtb can rarely even get it up (s**** 😆 )


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 10:05 pm
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My bike knows I'm trying to be clever and puts a stop to it. Otherwise, I'd find manuals easy.


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 10:17 pm
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Nope not properly.

I wheelie rather well though. Just can't make that transition.


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 10:28 pm
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After reading the first page entirely I feel embarrassed to say yes I can. Practise really does help. I'm also the show off **** who wheelies from the road crossing at the end of cannock up and over the speed bumps. 😳


 
Posted : 15/03/2016 11:42 pm
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I can't and at the age of 63 I have to accept that I never will. Such is life, I suppose..


 
Posted : 16/03/2016 8:57 am
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Can't very well.

Used be be able to on a box for a short while.

But then I can never be bothered to get off and lower my seat post to give me a proper chance.

Although I'm sure I would fail with a slammed post too.


 
Posted : 16/03/2016 10:29 am
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Can roll along in a manual for several hundred metres. Makes linking fire roads far more interesting!


 
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