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Need to change rubber on a bike I am about to buy, they come with kenda nevegal 2.2 which apparently are great grip wise, but have high rolling resistance.

I'll be using it on the road a fair bit, but bought with riding plenty of trails in mind, so I want a fast rolling tyre but with plenty of grip and surface area.

I used Michelin Mountain Dry 2's (2.3) on my old bike which were fantastic and I am considering just getting another pair of them, but thought I'd drop a post here to see if I was missing out on a potentially better alternative.

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Posted : 09/08/2011 2:57 pm
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If you know you like the Michelin tyres get them.

Otherwise the Nobby Nic/Racing Raplh combo or Maxxis Ardent/Crossmark are alternatives.


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 3:01 pm
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Racing Ralph 2.25"?


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 3:02 pm
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The Michelins are very nice - I've only used the 2.1s that were on offer from On One (9.99 for folders, bargain) and they were HUGE .. 2.3s must be like balloon tyres..


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 3:02 pm
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kenda nevegal 2.2 which apparently are great grip wise

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Posted : 09/08/2011 3:04 pm
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Sorry, compulsive response... Never had tyres that let go as bad as the Nevegal / Blue whatever cr@p that was on my old Reign.

and yes, they were like peddling tractor tyres 🙁


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 3:05 pm
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Conti Race King rear , Mountain King front, fast, rear not great in wet though.


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 3:09 pm
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Haha, well looks like those nevegals will end up out the window then, will check some reviews on the race/mountain kings though.

thanks for the input


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 3:18 pm
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Ralph 2.4 BiiiiiiiiiG MOMA, and roll well.


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 3:21 pm
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Keep nevegals spare, I've not found them that bad to be honest, not as bad as some of the cheapo bontys. The schwable's are deffo worth checking out.


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 3:22 pm
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There are several different compounds of Nevegals. The Blue Grooves are generally an OE fit and are not the best. The Stick E compound is the grippy one and the DST have a harder faster rolling centre compound 60a with a more sticky edge 50a compound.
As with many other brands you need to make sure that you are buying the correct type for your intended use. I would be tempted to buy a Stick E and put that on the front when you are going off road.


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 3:27 pm
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Hi, thanks for the useful info Matt24k, they are the 'Stick E' compound I didn't realise different compounds were sold under the same name.

That makes them a little more useful no doubt. I think I'll buy a set of Mountain drys non the less, and mix the two sets up depending upon what I am doing


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 3:34 pm
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I used Michelin Mountain Dry 2's (2.3) on my old bike which were fantastic and I am considering just getting another pair of them, but thought I'd drop a post here to see if I was missing out on a potentially better alternative.

I bought a pair of these cheap from On One just to try, and have ridden them in all sorts of conditions. I've also ridden lots of other tyres since, thinking "there must be something better as they were only £10 each" to no avail... Seriously, just get some more! They're ace tyres...

I don't bother running one on the front any more as my local trails are a bit softer conditions than is ideal for them, even in the height of summer, but if you ride mainly firm hardpacked ground, the Dry2's are ideal for almost all year round riding! The fact that they're silly cheap is a massive bonus. I now have a Bontrager XR4 2.2" on the front which matches nicely with a bit more shoulder bite, and a bit better under braking, but still reasonably quick, makes for a very nice handling bike.

And for anyone interested, they're VERY easy to seal in a tubeless setup too, the Carcass is of such high quality it barely requires any sealant to get it to seal.

OH, and FWIW, Kenda Nevegals are not only VERY slow rolling, they're also not very grippy. Crap tyre IMO.


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 4:27 pm
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I second the Michelin XC Dry 2 recommendation - I'm using them (2.3" front, 2.1" rear) on a bike I have in Greece and I really like them - as above, dead easy to seat and seal ghetto tubeless on Mavic 717's too.


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 4:34 pm
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What about kenda small block 8s? They are really fast rolling and offer more grip than you would think. I have to confess that I do swap them for highrollers in the winter.


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 4:38 pm
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Never had a problem with Nevegals, the Stick-E and DTC 2.35 Nevegals are great all round tyres, but they're not a great choice if you'll be on tarmac a lot.

I used to commute on Maxxis Larsen TT 2.35 and they were good off road too. (Not fantastic when it's wet though.)


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 4:43 pm
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Maxxis Aspens are fast rolling & surprisingly grippy - done Afan on 2.1's and went with the 2.25's for a Llandegla / Coed-y-Brenin trip & running on local trails. Much prefer the 2.25's although both struggle with the mud. Fit something else when it gets muddy.


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 7:30 pm
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Im all about Eskars at the mo, dual compound with 70a center ad soft outside.
£22 each!


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 7:40 pm
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Currently have a Hutchinson Cougar 2.4 on the rear and find it fast rolling and yet to slip out on muddy and rocky climbs and slatey/Dyfiesque descents :). I have the 650g version with sticky compound and so far it ha sheen great at Nant-yr-arian, Coed-y-brenin, Dyfi forest and trying it out tomorrow at Brechfa. So far definitely a keeper 🙂


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 7:41 pm
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Kenda Nev is a great tyre, but IMO best in a combo as DTC rear with a Stickee BlueGroove front. Worst tyre I've ever tried was a Mountain King. Positively dangerous. Kenda SB8 is a very fast tyre, but can let go suddenly when it gets loose on hard stuff.

I take it that being 2.2 width they are on a 29er...?
If you want to sell one let me know. 🙂


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 9:40 pm
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I wore out a 2.1 sticky and an dtc Nev pair. They were not especially fast or slow and worked well in straight lines. The sidewalls were a bit flimsy and I patched a couple of rips. They seemed a bit freaky when cornering fast/hard, possibly due to the flimsyness.


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 9:51 pm
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Syncros Point'n'Chute. 2.0, 2.35 or 2.5. Fast rolling, don't clog.
Don't let anyone say Conti 'King' tyres are fast rolling. They drag and buzz and wear down faster than anything.


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 10:18 pm
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N/N's on the spicy and lover em.Great all rounders.
kenda onone specials 2.1 on the trance and found them spot on.
+1 on the mountain kings.Nearly killed me and where taken strait off and throw on ebay after one ride.


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 10:28 pm
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The OEM spec Nevegals are absolute pish... Kenda must be nuts to do that, the number of people that have used them on new bikes or hire bikes and decided that they're all like that is ridiculous.

But, though I like Nevegals myself, they're not what you're asking for here, not a fast tyre.

Nobby Nic Evos are good apart from the shocking wear rate, I won't buy them again just for that, a tyre should last more than a dozen rides- once the edges wear off the knobs the grip goes out the window. Shame.

Stick a Smallblock 2.35 on the back for ridiculous speed, maybe- not good in proper mud but then, neither is any other fast tyre and they do better than some.


 
Posted : 09/08/2011 11:19 pm
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Syncros Point'n'Chute

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Classic 'enduro' tread pattern a bit like the old Spez Ground Control.
Light for a 2.35, low, hard centre tread for durability and fast-rolling. Softer side knobs for grip. Predictable on the trail, they don't suddenly let go. Casing is tough, no rips in 4 years. Just retired my original 2.5 rear after 4 years plus and there's no more than 3mm lost from centre knobs. Only took it off because of my new bike. My 575 wouldn't take a 2.5 in the rear without cutting the side knobs down. My Mega will take one without mods and so I treated myself to a brand new 2.5. The old 2.5 is being converted to a winter tyre. Cutting all the knobs down and inserting some studs.

PS: they mount up great on Notubes rims!


 
Posted : 10/08/2011 9:09 am
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Haha, well looks like those nevegals will end up out the window then...

Can I have your Nevegals then? 😉


 
Posted : 10/08/2011 9:20 am
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To be fair, the Nevegal / Blue Groove combo on the Reign were OEM. Didn't suit my local riding (S Wales mud, with lots of rocks and roots).

They would just let go on (the always wet Welsh) roots or hard rocks. Tried lower pressures for more grip, but too soft and they would just fold under during cornering... Replaced them with Minion / High Roller combo - far better IMO

Have never got on with Conti tyres (Gravity?? particularly bad IIRC) and had far too many scary moments with Fire XC Pros just breaking out on rocks and roots.

Favourites over the last few years have been Nobby Nics, Smart Sams and Crossmarks.

When I feel suicidal / fast I still have a pair of 1.8 Trailblasters 😯 , which for all of their scariness have still to be beaten for my fastest lap of the Wall

ETA - Are trailblasters still on sale? IIRC they were sub 400g when new. My rather badly worn ones are probably closer to 300g!!!


 
Posted : 10/08/2011 9:57 am