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Ok so some little oink has stolen my bike last night, so its replacement time. Any suggestions on which all day hard tail to go for, gratefully received.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 10:18 am
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A Boardman maybe, or see what on-one can do for a grand. Might be worth checking out that Kona sale on CRC.

Edit: Worth a look on the classifieds here too.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 10:26 am
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Bit more info needed - what/where/how do you ride?


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 10:26 am
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"Bit more info needed - what/where/how do you ride? "

Most of my riding is split between Cannock Chase, local canals/bridleways and BMBO events.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 10:31 am
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Are you getting money back on the insurance, or are you just buying another bike?

If I had £1000 to spend, I'd look at a Retrobike. And to those who scoff at the idea of a bike that's, heaven forbid, MORE than 10 years old, I've seen Kona Hei Heis, Litespeeds and Airbornes all sell for under £1000, complete with half decent forks and full XTR to boot. Not to mention the fact that you can also get Fat Chance Yo Eddys, pre-trek Kleins, Yetis and similar bikes for the same sort of cash as a Halfords Boardman (not that there's anything wrong with a Boardman).

A £1000 retrobike of that sort of quality will kick the a**e out of any modern bike for the same money and will probably last longer, too.

Be a little bit different and go retro! A '97-'98 hardtail will happily take a set of 80mm forks and some have disc mounts too.

If you want something a little more general purpose, then take a look at a GT Zaskar from around 1996 onwards. Bombproof, light as hell and will take an 80mm fork. Frames can be had for around £150-£250 depending on condition, and you can do a full XTR M950 build with a set of modern 80mm forks for under a grand easily.

You'll always look cooler if you rock up on a top spec Retrobike too, instead of a £1000 Generalized or similar. Too many people get caught up in the idea that modern is always better, when it's not always the case.

Just my 2p worth.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 11:23 am
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right on your budget [img] [/img] http://www.wiggle.co.uk/charge-duster-mid-2012/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=base&utm_campaign=uk&utm_content=Charge-Charge_Duster_Mid_2012-Fluro_Green i have the 2011 duster mid and it's great 🙂


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 11:31 am
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Cubes are good value around a grand.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 11:34 am
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A £1000 retrobike of that sort of quality will kick the a**e out of any modern bike for the same money and will probably last longer, too.

Really? I couldn't really disagree more. I had a 'retro' bike when it wasn't retro - full M952 group with v's, 80mm SIDs etc and it was horrible (looking back), I'd not go near another bike like that. Not to mention that anything M950 is either NOS (and won't be under £1000) or will by now be trashed as it was superceded in 1999!

Do Canyon do owt about that price? Otherwise I'd probably look at an On One or Boardman.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 11:38 am
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Second hand soul- will come in well under that ( if its a large you need I may be able to help 😉


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 11:41 am
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I'd avoid retrobikes unless you like retro handling etc.. don't get me wrong an old kona or similar is lovely but things have moved on.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 11:44 am
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Put a bike together yourself.

For Example...

Chumba HX1. 300 quid
http://www.progressive-bikes.co.uk/product/chumba_hx1/

Rockshox Sektor 200 quid
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=67896

Wheels - 120 quid
http://www.merlincycles.co.uk/Bike+Shop/Wheels/Mountain+Bike+Wheels/Sale+Wheels/Pair+Shimano+XT+Disc+Hubs+-+WTB+Disc+Rims_XT-SALE-WHEELS.htm

Should be able to get some decent brakes/shifter etc for 380 quid.

but you get the idea.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 11:48 am
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Really? I couldn't really disagree more. I had a 'retro' bike when it wasn't retro - full M952 group with v's, 80mm SIDs etc and it was horrible (looking back), I'd not go near another bike like that. Not to mention that anything M950 is either NOS (and won't be under £1000) or will by now be trashed as it was superceded in 1999!

Clearly coming from someone who has never been on the Retrobike website. To say that anything M950 is either NOS or trashed is a load of rubbish. There's still a fair amount of near mint M950 kit out there and it's still very possible to build up a complete bike for comparatively little money.

I've built a Zaskar with M950, Hope Ti hubs, Mavic Ceramics and 80mm Judy SLs (with speed springs and damper upgrades) for under £800. The geometry was largely similar to modern bikes, it rode like a dream and weighed a smidge over 22lb.

Personally, I'd take that over an off-the-shelf Specialized or Boardman any day of the week if I were to choose a bike for everyday riding, but I appreciate that everyone is different.

For me, part of the fun of owning a bike is building one to my own specification. And before anyone accuses me of being some kind of Retro bike nut, my username should give a hint as to the fact that I'm not... I like modern bikes every bit as much.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 11:49 am
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Ragely Piglet, one of my buddies has recently got one and it looks like a great bike and decent frame to build on.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 12:52 pm
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What is "retro handling"? As opposed to modern handling? I've never ridden a bike made in the last 8 years so I really have no idea...


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 1:32 pm
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[i]Cubes are good value around a grand[/i]

Correction, Cubes are [b]excellent[/b] value at around a grand. Look on CRC, you can probably also benefit from reductions on 2011 models and the £100 off if you spend over £1000 deal.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 1:39 pm
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A £1000 retrobike of that sort of quality will kick the a**e out of any modern bike for the same money and will probably last longer, too.

Yes, I'd say the older the better ideally. Modern bikes are just a gimmick really, they're only produced to make more money for the manufacturers. If you shop around you should be able to find an old "boneshaker" or "penny farthing" which is all anyone really needs.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 1:56 pm
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This looks good value, spec very good too! Maybe a frame change later? I know nothing about Rose bikes BTW

http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/red-rose-wps-factory-400-457922/aid:457932


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 1:59 pm
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+1 for the ragley piglet


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 2:14 pm
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I've built a Zaskar with M950, Hope Ti hubs, Mavic Ceramics and 80mm Judy SLs (with speed springs and damper upgrades) for under £800. The geometry was largely similar to modern bikes, it rode like a dream and weighed a smidge over 22lb.

Good for you, but for anything beyond fireroads I'd definitely opt for the modern equivalent with proper brakes and forks (for a start)!

Incidentally, do you mean M950 8-speed stuff, of M952 9-speed? The number of people after 'nice' 8 speed cassettes and what not certainly suggests to me that it's all either NOS or trashed!


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 2:20 pm
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Dependent on size needed, i've got a 2010 19" Genesis altitude 30 for sale for £900

It didn't match my reserve on eBay when I tried to sell it so will be going back on in the new year

Let me know if you're interested and I can send you pictures etc


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 2:22 pm
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c456


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 2:49 pm
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I have only ever had one mtb - Trek 6500 hardtail. Five years on, and still going strong and gets me down anything that I would want to go down/may ability allows me to go down. Rock solid reliability and below budget.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 4:12 pm
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Rock solid reliability and below budget.

By a whole shiny pound! Would get the Boardman or the On One myself I suspect, although the Trek is better than the Spesh equivalent, decent fork.


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 4:24 pm
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Blimey, they have gone up THAT much in a few years????


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 4:27 pm
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Yep!


 
Posted : 15/12/2011 4:30 pm