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Aquapac with a lanyard round my neck.


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 3:55 pm
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If you don't use a backpack where do you put spare tubes, pump, waterproof, tick remover, etc? I don't use my camelbak bladder but the backpack is really useful, and that's where I put my phone too.

Summer sleeveless road jersey under a normal top for bits, tube on bike, phone in shorts pocket. Gilet has a big zip up pocket on the back. Don't tend to bother with a jacket unless it's set for the day - then i'm wearing it anyway.


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 4:05 pm
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Pocket.

I don't worry about it getting wet I have a proper enduro spec gnarphone. Not a silly fashion item


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 4:37 pm
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Front right pocket of my shorts, in a zip lock bag, screen on the inside so it doesn't get smashed again 🙂

I carry it there regardless of having my back pack.


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 4:43 pm
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proper enduro spec gnarphone

You mean a tactical phone?! Swoon... 😉


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 4:48 pm
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And as for near universal phone signal, LOL!

To be fair Simon, the minute you dial 999 every mobile carrier will try and connect the call..


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 4:54 pm
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The [i]one[/i] time I put a phone in my pocket I washed out on some wet decking at Glentress while testing the girlfriend's hire bike and smashed the screen. Don't think I'd take it if I was going out without a pack 😀


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 4:55 pm
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How the hell do people actually manage to pedal with filled pockets on your shorts?

Doesn't the endless clonking and banging on your legs piss you off immensly?

Or don't you pedal very much?


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 4:59 pm
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"To be fair Simon, the minute you dial 999 every mobile carrier will try and connect the call.."

Which is wonderful but large parts of this island dont get any signal at all from any carrier.

personally i leave my mobile at home and carry my sat phone and bat signal light.


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 5:12 pm
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If I've no bag or suitable pocket I use one of those jogger armbands to hold a phone.


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 5:12 pm
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On longer solo rides, there are usually a couple of points per ride where I can text my wife. That way, she knows where to direct searchers if I don't arrive home.


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 5:24 pm
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Tucked away somewhere obscure at home.
Why take a phone on a bike ride?


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 6:17 pm
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"irresponsible for me then. i quite often ride alone, in the dark, in less than familiar territory while im working away & nobody is waiting for me to return... it'd be 7am the next day before anyone noticed me missing, and probably the following day before they'd begin to worry. so i wouldn't dream of venturing out without my phone. not to mention the amount of times i need to look at a map on it or shoot the odd instabanger!"
I'm the same but ***k know where the phone is most of the time. I don't carry it. Generation thing maybe, might drag the helmet out now that its dark early, might not. Wouldn't use a seat belt if I wasn't worried about being caught.


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 6:20 pm
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Never carry a backpack ( bar really wintry rides). Pump is on a frame clip, multitool and tube in seat pack, bottle on frame. I don't carry anything much else. All my kit has plenty of pockets tho - I have only just bought my first mobile phoone - I guess it goess in a front pocket if I bothered to carry it which quite honestly I don't usually


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 6:24 pm
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not taking a phone is kindda irresponsible, esp if riding alone.

Do you treat a mobile phone as a mystical skill compensator get out of jail free card? Personally when I'm out riding alone I make sure that I ride well within my ability level. Riding in such a way that you're likely to need the cavalry to come and rescue you is kindda irresponsible. Let's face it if you're able to get the phone out of whereever you've stashed it and are in a good enough state to phone the emergency services with your location and needs then you're probably not badly injured enough to need those services.


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 9:23 pm
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In the car, or in a bag in the rear pocket of by bib shorts. If I'm going futher than a limp/crawl from the car I will usually have a pack.


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 9:49 pm
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Riding in such a way that you're likely to need the cavalry to come and rescue you is kindda irresponsible

I ride very carefully when alone, but I still have a phone. Anything could happen. Tyre blowout at 35mph on road; frame failure; unexpected crash - I once wiped out on a flat ridgeway trail when my front wheel hit an unseen sapling stump. I could also have a heart attack or something.

Not only that but my bike does break from time to time. Snapped a pedal axle off the other day about 20 miles from home.

Let's face it if you're able to get the phone out of whereever you've stashed it and are in a good enough state to phone the emergency services with your location and needs then you're probably not badly injured enough to need those services.

Friend of mine slipped on ice whilst running, broke both bones in his lower leg. No phone. Had to crawl a mile in the snow with his foot hanging off. He survived of course but I expect he'd have been glad of a phone!


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 9:51 pm
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Oh yeah. Saw that bloke having a heart attack at Swinley. He was in no fit state to phone anyone. However the four blokes surrounding him were, and they were on the blower to the emergency services.


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 10:11 pm
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In my pocket. If it's raining/wet, in a ziplock bag, in my coat/pocket.


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 11:06 pm
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I don't get why you wouldn't ride with a phone: it weighs barely anything and it's there if you need it.

It's not just a question of your own safety. I've not had to use my phone to get help for any self sustained injury, but I've had to call an ambulance on two separate occasions for riders who I've found semi conscious on the trail and another random RTA. With no phone, the alternative would have been to leave a semi conscious/bleeding casualty alone to get help.

Anyway, in answer to the OP: jersey pocket on the road; waistpack on the MTB.


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 12:55 am
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I dislike wearing a backpack, so don't unless I'm on a long ride.

Phone goes in a small saddle pack along with tools, tubes etc. Drink in a water bottle.

Not carrying a phone is deliberately obtuse. Not owning a phone, well....


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 1:09 am
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The same place I put it when I am wearing a hydration pack. Is putting your phone in your hydration pack a thing?


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 2:55 am
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The same place I put it when I am wearing a hydration pack. Is putting your phone in your hydration pack a thing?

Got pockets for it in the bag, nice safe place fits much better than any pocket and doesn't slap around. It's only my road jerseys with pockets that would work just but the phones a bit big. Shorts no thanks.


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 3:02 am
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[url= https://www.sfbags.com/collections/cycling-accessories/products/cycling-ride-pouch ]expensive but good[/url]

In that in my pocket. The best phone + kit solution yet.


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 5:50 am
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Is putting your phone in your hydration pack a thing?

My pack has a nice furry clean and waterproof pocket for my phone, which it accepts in its normal case so no faffing around with plastic bags or cases and so on. It also doesn't flap around by my legs or otherwise annoy my leg, and won't be damaged in a crash.

Less convenient to take photos or receive calls though.

I've had to call an ambulance on two separate occasions for riders who I've found semi conscious on the trail and another random RTA

Oh yeah, that too - I came across a lad who'd fallen and smashed his bonce a few weeks back. Fortunately emergency services were on their way and he was being looked after by people who had the foresight to bring phones!


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 9:27 am
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Anywhere as long as it won't disturb the ride. On road, in back pocket, on mtb in v slim NF version of a camelback.

But it's amazing how overeliant we have become on mobiles.. How did we cope in the mountains without them? 😉


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 9:43 am
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No-one's relying on them THM. We're just using them as emergency devices. Which isn't a bad thing is it?

As said in the old days you were simply in more trouble if you got into trouble.


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 10:00 am
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I have the ultimate device for protecting my phone whilst out riding - it's called a work phone! Like a hire car it is the ultimate go anywhere, do anything bit of kit. My personal phone stays nice a safe back at home - it's a daft plus sized thing and not the best for carrying in a pocket. My work phone is small, cheap, useless and only rings with bad news so I really don't care what happens to it.


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 10:12 am
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[quote=mikewsmith ]but the phones a bit big

Ah - it would be nice sometimes to have a bigger phone, but that's the main reason I got a little one.

I have considered going a similar way to convert, getting a cheap little phone for use when out and about - stick in a PAYG SIM (when I last checked Asda ones were free and came with a small amount of free credit, so effectively free for emergency use). But then my main phone is supposedly waterproof (I wouldn't go kayaking with it, but I figure it will cope with normal outdoors damp) and small enough - and I quite like having a decent camera and the option of mapping with GPS, along with other interesting stuff like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.peakfinder.area.alps&hl=en_GB. Yes I survived without a GPS in the mountains for a long time, but when I went out this year after a long break and was lacking a bit of confidence in my nav in thick cloud on a snow field it was nice to pull it out and confirm I was where I thought I was.


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 10:36 am
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My phone points the way to the nearest tram stop or train station, and the app within is the emergency ticket home too (although I also have a €20 note and some coins secreted away too for an emergency cake or tram fare).

It goes in middle back pocket usually, unless I also have a GPS or camera, in which case they go in side pockets to balance things out a bit.

Not all jerseys are MAMIL'ed up lycra style. Most of mine are baggy MTB style but with pockets, or generic going for a sensible ride style jerseys.

Dunno how people are fitting phones in shorts pockets... mine would snap in half if you tried that.


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 11:08 am
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No-one's relying on them THM. We're just using them as emergency devices.

Dont wish to derail thread, but wish that was true in life and in cycling.


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 11:12 am
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Most of mine are baggy MTB style but with pockets

Never seen a baggy jersey with pockets. But if arm pockets are anything to go by surely the weight of anything in back pockets would pull the jersey uncomfortably or bounce about?


 
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Dont wish to derail thread, but wish that was true in life and in cycling.

I think that's your fault not the phone's. Don't blame your car for being stuck in traffic 🙂


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 11:13 am
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In a drybag, obviously. With a lanyard, for retrieval.


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 11:19 am
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Never seen a baggy jersey with pockets. But if arm pockets are anything to go by surely the weight of anything in back pockets would pull the jersey uncomfortably or bounce about?

Well not properly sail-like baggy big enough for body armour, but "less fitted" than MAMIL. They don't bounce that much but I do try to even out the weight. Depends what and where you ride... big day out up mountains I'll have backpack, but short 1-2 hours local XC loop, I'll have bottle and pump on bike and pockets stuffed. Key tether would be nice... only have that on a side rib pocket, and a really daft external tether on shorts.


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 11:29 am
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I went for a short spin yesterday and considered putting stuff on my bike instead as it's easier to fill a bottle, and I had the eqiuppment. But then I realised the extra faff of transferring stuff over wasn't really worth the convenience of using a bottle.


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 11:32 am
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How much stuff do you need to transfer over for a short spin?

Can we have the "people carry too much junk around in their huge packs" debate now? 😈


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 11:47 am
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Molgrips, That's just bad planning.
One bag. One set of tools. Only thing I have to swap is the tube. Which goes in a pocket anyway. Bag moving takes ~15 seconds in the winter. And less than that in the summer (as it goes in a pocket anyway)


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 11:48 am
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Can we have the "people carry too much junk around in their huge packs" debate now?

Rationalisation time, one set of co2 tool and tyre lever is transferable, mech hangers and tubes are not


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 11:50 am
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All of my shorts have at least one zipped pocket - either side or rear - so phone (Sony Z1 Compact) goes in that. Small multitool in one of the other pockets along with a chain link and a couple of zipties. Any problem that can't be fixed with that, or a puncture, and I'm phoning for a pickup! Helps that 95% of my rides are sub-2hrs and the furthest point is >10 miles from home. Any further out than that and I take a pack.


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 11:54 am
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Most of my rides are tame as anything local stuff that involve me getting out on the bikes. There's no trail centre, no rock gardens, no mountains, no berms

So my phone goes in a pocket if I have one, a bumbag if I'm wearing one, or on a bag on the bike if there is one (have been using a couple of bikepacking bags on the bike for ease)


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 11:57 am
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Let's face it if you're able to get the phone out of whereever you've stashed it and are in a good enough state to phone the emergency services with your location and needs then you're probably not badly injured enough to need those services.

As people above have said, it depends. It might also not be you that needs the help.

One of my students got her foot stuck in a hole while walking alone last week, and there was no mobile signal. Fortunately, the farmer who found her had a phone and didn't have to go far to call 999.

They had the saw out ready to remove her foot, but fortunately managed to free her in time. Had they arrived any later, because the farmer had to go all the way to a phonebox or house to call for help, she'd have lost her foot.


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 4:25 pm
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I find a good comfortable backpack solves all these problems.


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 5:10 pm
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and I quite like having a decent camera and the option of mapping with GPS, along with other interesting stuff like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.peakfinder.area.alps&hl=en_GB.

A bit off topic, but thanks. I've been looking for an app that will do that for a while.


 
Posted : 01/11/2016 5:25 pm
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[quote="aracer"]

How much stuff do you need to transfer over for a short spin?

Can we have the "people carry too much junk around in their huge packs" debate now?

Yes please - it always amuses me how much some folk carry for a couple of hours in the woods.


 
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