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[Closed] What's the best chain to use with a ground anchor?

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To secure 5 bikes?


 
Posted : 25/10/2020 9:28 pm
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a long one,


 
Posted : 25/10/2020 10:02 pm
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Almax series iv


 
Posted : 25/10/2020 10:12 pm
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Have a look at the pragmasis website;

https://securityforbikes.com/index.php

A long chain will be pretty expensive though.

For that many bikes, some flexi cables with a d-lock might be more economical and easier to handle, but nowhere near as secure.


 
Posted : 26/10/2020 8:12 am
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Pragmasis. You'll need a 2 or 2.5m. 13mm should be sufficient. Budget £50-60 for a good padlock.
At the end of the day any security device can be overcome, you just want to make it less hassle for them to steal someone else bikes.


 
Posted : 26/10/2020 8:16 am
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Flexi cables are a complete waste of time.

Pragmasis chains are great, but don't listen to them on length. I bought 2 2.5m chains from them and they're annoyingly short.

So I bought another one, this time 4m long. Which is good for locking four bikes round a tree, but even then isn't long enough to lock the mainframe too.

So I bought another 2m one to do that.

TBH, locking the bikes properly is a real PITA. probably a bit easier if you get two shorter chains and two padlocks, so you can break it in either place.


 
Posted : 26/10/2020 8:24 am
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You’ll need a 2 or 2.5m. 13mm should be sufficient.

2m is way way too short to lock 5 bikes to a ground anchor properly.


 
Posted : 26/10/2020 8:27 am
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If your bikes are insured, does the insurance stipulate a Sold Secure rating?
Do you have the space for more than one ground anchor? Just thinking if the thieves defeat one then that's five bikes gone?
Of course it means getting more chains and locks but I guess it depends on the price of the bikes in question and other considerations such as how secure the building itself is?
As a side note I got a long u bolt and ground anchor both Gold Sold Secure rating for around 50 quid, but will only do one bike. Lastly I think chain over 16mm cant be cut with bolt croppers so it would be a portable angle grinder so again if the location is close to the house the thieves might not want to take the risk?


 
Posted : 26/10/2020 8:42 am
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Would you be able to fit additional ground anchors? With one chain one cut has all 5 bikes. I have two wall mounted anchors (harder to access and get leverage on) and a separate chain and lock for each bike. Makes getting the right bike out easier as well.


 
Posted : 26/10/2020 8:44 am
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On length, I've locked 4 bikes with a 2m chain to a ground anchor routing via the BBs. You want the chain to be as short as possible as it's much harder to cut a chain when not on the ground.


 
Posted : 26/10/2020 9:12 am
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The storage space has a full alarm anyway so slowing thieves down whilst I chase with an axe


 
Posted : 26/10/2020 10:05 am
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I have a ground anchor for each of my 3 and d-lock them together ,each ground anchor has 2 onguard chains and padlocks .I'm going on the fact they see 6 chains and 3 d-locks will take time cutting so quantity over quality I suppose ??
Only downside is a shit load of keys but a small price to pay if it keeps the scum dogs away


 
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I have a ground anchor for each of my 3 and d-lock them together ,each ground anchor has 2 onguard chains and padlocks .I’m going on the fact they see 6 chains and 3 d-locks will take time cutting so quantity over quality I suppose ??
Only downside is a shit load of keys but a small price to pay if it keeps the scum dogs away

Yeah, similar to me, i have fahgetaboutit locks, D locks, chains, etc and two ground anchors, it's a horrific job locking the bikes, as you want the ground anchors to be in an annoying position (stopping angle grinder attack), but you get used to it, doesn't stop the cut through the bike attack, but nothing can do that.

Chain wise, you will need a long one if you want all 5 together, honestly think that would be a bit pointless though, get two or three 2metre chains and daisy chain them, some D Locks as stated above and you're there, it's not cheap though, decent chain of 15/16mm is a hundred quid, D locks of around the same thickness are 50 quid a piece. I have a 22mm chain as well to act as the first sight horrible chain, that was 100 quid as well without the lock, but for peace of mind and being in line with insurers requirements, it's probably worth it


 
Posted : 26/10/2020 10:55 am
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I’d pick up several ground anchors and use them on the walls if you got decent block walls. Much easier to get chains out of the r way of where you can get good leverage on bolt cutters. I’ve got 3 ground anchors for 3 bikes (1 each). All wall mounted - 2 will have d locks with a 16.8mm shackle (sold secure) and the other one has 2 sold secure gold chains on it. Should meet insurance requirements that way. I figure a 16.8mm shackle won’t bolt crop and it’ll take a few minutes with a grinder as it’s stiff shackle so will need 2 cuts.

For a cheap ish but decent enough d lock the OnGuard Brute is well worth a lock. Similar quality shackle to a Kryptonite New York lock but less than half the cost if you shop around. I suspect the Kryptonite has a more sophisticated locking mechanism but I don’t imagine many thieves are picking locks.

Oxford ground anchors seem ok to me - I’d imagine they’d also need 2 cuts with a grinder to get through them - and as they’re behind the bike they’d be awkward to get to easily with the grinder.

Finally - as they’re all locked up separately it’s going to take quite a while to take all of them as it’s a lot of cutting.

All whilst an alarm is going off - plus if you make the garage as secure as possible hopefully it puts thieves off so they go and find an easier target.


 
Posted : 26/10/2020 11:06 am
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If your bikes are insured, does the insurance stipulate a Sold Secure rating?

My insurance specified I had to have a ground anchor and lock for my bikes, but when asked about quality of chain and padlock they did not specify, I opted for something priced low on the mid range in the local shop


 
Posted : 26/10/2020 12:06 pm
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Just make sure you chain will fit through you ground anchor. I bought a (2nd hand) Almax series 4 (which I’d recommend thoroughly) & it simply wouldn’t fit though my kryptonite ground anchor, had to upgrade to a torc's unit (no bad thing)


 
Posted : 26/10/2020 3:03 pm