[Closed] Whatever happened to "All Mountain?"

AM diversified - FR, Enduro, etc

XGnar took over.

Not enough Mountains

I'm retro is still ride AM, 26" & 9 speed.

Spice things up and ride XC downhill. WTF was an all mountain anyway.?

It's a heavy xc bike with bit more travel you could throw around a bit.
I have an 06 S works Enduro. 26 inch, 9 speed, 27 gear

All the fools who bought into "AM" are now flogging their 29ers pending arrival of their 27andabit ERS.

It's not gone anywhere. I've still got my turner 6 pack and I still ride it up and down.

What Rich said, it went 29er Super Speed ! AM became........... If you ain't got big wheels you ain't tryin hard enuff !

Soon to be replaced with .............. I'm not putting the wheel size down because it will turn it into another wheel size related debate !
When really its a bike, plain and simeple a bike !

The only difficult bit is not being green enough to believe what the marketing moguls spin off about Technolgy that's not caught up or the components sector is letting the wheel size down !

Ooooops I'm off on one, time for me to drive round in my car again with STRAVA activated !

Come to Germany.

We have Tour, Marathon, and Marathon Tour too. And mountains. But you probably couldn't ride all the mountains.

Why not are they still littered with our unexploded ordanance ?

AM = Enduro without the race number on = What we mostly did on bikes anyway since XC-tagged stuff got side-tracked by racing and until someone figured out how to make an XC race format that couldn't be won by an ex-roadie.

I remember getting my first pair of riser bars and becoming a free rider overnight.

I thought ENDURO was something you did when you got too old to compete in DH ?

All mountain < Over mountain

Maybe

My understanding was that all mountain was given wider bars and rebranded as enduro.

AM bike here too. Its great. One bike for everything - XC, DH, Trail Centres, messing around. Pedal up (not to quickly) and 'send' it down again trying to get as much air as I dare. Great fun and no faffing around with having loads of bikes cluttering up the garage.

I think the marketing people needed a new exciting name for their products so they stopped using all mountain.

AM hasn't gone anywhere hasn't it has just Morphed into Enduro which is no bad thing IMHO...

Who remembers when "All-Mountain" was "Alpine"....???? or should I collect my free bus pass now? 😉

Oh I'm refering to AM/Alpine being 20Kg of 26" wheeled 6" travel beastie with 8 on the back and a 22/34 on the front... 😛

Na all mountain was 26", 140mm, 30mm rise bars, qr seat clamp. Enduro isn't all mountain, enduro is only half mountain.

I'm gonna start enduro lite. It's basically the same as enduro but you wear Lycra.

If there are no takers I could possibly get into some extreme xc.

AM diversified - FR, Enduro, etc

Free Ride's been arround (and it's definition debated) since people decided they needed a name for downhill raceing without a stopwatch.

There was an article in MBUK years ago with the founders of DMR (and the whole Upgrade, Decade, Kinesis-UK company) who were trying to argue that dicking about in the wood's on hardtails was the real 'freeride' not the American 'jumping off cliffs and ladder drops' freeride.

The worst era was the 200mm travel bikes with 69deg HA's!

Hang on what do you mean 1 Bike

Aren't we all supposed to have 6 bikes ?

3 single speeds
2 29ers
1 hard tail from the 90's

Is that 6 ?

I've got an Alpine bike with Freeride wheels, Downhill brakes, Enduro handlebars and XC shifters.

As you can guess, getting ready for a ride requires careful clothing selection.

I think MTB needs some cross fertilisation from snowboarding and surfing advertising, maybe Backcountry Longriding, or Boogie Biking, or Big Mountain Endurance

or maybe we could just call it a mountain bike.

Hang on what do you mean 1 Bike

Aren't we all supposed to have 6 bikes ?

3 single speeds
2 29ers
1 hard tail from the 90's

Is that 6 ?

90s HT frame, single speed with a 29er wheel up front.

Sorted! 😉

Hmmmmm Monkfinger !

I think I've seen you out riding,

Fox DH Pants
A pink and cerise Lycra Top and black Lycra arm warmers, NO helmet ! Shame on you and SPD Sandals ?

I knew straight away you had put XC shifters on DH bars !

"All mountain" never really felt like it had much traction, just a bit silly sounding isn't it? Especially for the 90% of mountain bikes that never go on a mountain never mind all the mountains. Enduro just feels like a better word.

Sort of like cross country, nobody ever rides them across a country, so to get closer to the real meaning I call mine my lightweight shit at everything bike.

all mountain pfft.

it's all about 'all road' now.

Was it murda'd out?

I thought the ENDURO Term had been robbed from Moto-X and the fact that not everyone could do it so the cop out was to ride ENDURO as it was deemed less Gnaaaarrrrr ? Basically easier ?

And sort of eased the Moto-X riders into retirement ?

Or have I got the wrong end of the stick again ?

Shame on you and SPD Sandals ?

Steady on son, SPD sandals are a Touring thing, and I don't see no stinking pannier rack on my bike!

Guilty as charged on the arm warmers.

Well I've got a 140mm FS with a dropper so I'm bang on trend for Enduro

Mind you my bars are only 685mm, my HA is about 69 and my wheels are unfashionably small. So I guess I'm actually an unfashionable trail pariah.

The mountain biking equivalent of Bashar Al Assad turning up at the G20 without so much as a Ferrero Roche.

Still at least my stem is slammed

My 6" + bike has been called an Enduro for years - Spesh decided to call it that

I just ride a bike around in circles through mud making noises like an excited school girl. I call it riding a bike 🙂

I ran a Wolf Ridge for three years, complete with a 160mm fork and a chain device. And then I built up a Spesh Camber...

That said, my WR is a lot of fun and an addictive bike to ride when it's not being too much like hard work.

My Camber is almost as quick downhill and faster everywhere else. I find the riding position more natural too. I think the capabilities of 100-130mm travels bikes have become a whole lot better on the back of the long/low/slack/wide thing not too long ago.

Parkessie : I can't believe for 1 minute that you don't throw in the occasional brum brum errrrrrrmmmmmm er ermmmm screeeeeeeech !

Meanwhile, somebody from above is busy looking up ENDURO on Wikipedia !
Oh to find out........ Oh yeah, that's very similar ? Bing

Light bulb !

discoduck - Member

3 single speeds
2 29ers
1 hard tail from the 90's

Keep going disco and by December you will have written the STW alternative xmas song.....

anyone remember MBR and their 'ballsy xc' niche? 😀

discoduck
I thought ENDURO was something you did when you got too old to compete in DH ?

I think you mean too "broken" for DH......... 😉

Sort of like cross country, nobody ever rides them across a country,

Its been away to the Passportes de Soliel for its summer holidays doin` enduro trails.....

I'm all about 'Back Country' riding these days... that's where it at.

I'm all about 'Back Country' riding these days

Me too, preferably "big mountain" back country.

And not in the Black Country.

'Aggressive XC' was a particular favourite of mine.

I'm all about Whole-Mountain+ or XXXC these days.

What about trail bikes? I thought they were all mountain these days?!

Mine's not so much 'all mountain' more 'most hills', though I do ride it from the south coast to the north coast periodically, so maybe that makes it 'cross country'? If it's a trail bike are you only allowed to use it on fireroads? Perhaps it's more 'miduro' than enduro being a hardtail and all.

jameso - Member

Aha. So this is a cross-country bike!

That could fall under my "lightweight shit at everything" category, if it was light 😉

I thought 'All Mountain' was DH for fun?

Am I not 'on trend'?

What's 'Enduro'?

I'm still not sure what "trail bike" is meant to mean, seeing as you get trails of all gnar levels from green to double black diamond.

Tom

Trail Bike is dictated by which forum you frequent not which grade the trail is !
Just ignore those coloured signs and ride round them the wrong way !

It's all the rage, or at least it is every time I ride a trail centre

CEM - climb every mountain, even a handy theme tune to use for any marketeers out there.

Northwind, I'm not sure where to start.. )

Jurno's and marketing chaps and chapesess moved on 😮

I ride a hardtail with a 150mm fork, what's that? 'Hard Mountain'?

I ride a hardtail with a 150mm fork, what's that? 'Hard Mountain'?

Broke back mountain?! 😉

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Same as it ever was. Bike plus mountain.

Enduro is just the race format; no worries on the way up, time trial on the way down.

I ride a hardtail with a 150mm fork, what's that?

An unbalanced feeling bike with needlessly high front end/bb?

Someone should use the term 'Big Country' for a laugh.

Discoduck: to right even the odd neeeeowm . Best bit is when going over a particularly bouncy bit is just opening your mouth and seeing whatcomes out.

Has anyone mentioned trail bikes yet , they would seem to be what used to be am bikes only maybe a bit lighter

But then as you can have a 160 mm bike at 28-29lb
Is that just a normal bike now rather than a big big

Oh god think I've confused my self now and going to dig out the rigid single speed for some sanity

Rigid singlespeed !

That's hard mountain,

Mine is a do it all triple 9 speed 100mm travel with 26inch wheels it seems to be ok !

walleater - Member
Someone should use the term 'Big Country' for a laugh.

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