As part of a study I'm researching, I'd be very interested in hearing different people's views on this subject. Thanks.
Rich.
650b 140/150mm travel FS, with a Split link rear end/ABP rear suspension.
Some assorted thoughts
One that fits
One that compensates the skill level of the rider to the terrain without weight penalty
Depends on the Enduro they are all completely different
Anything with a sixty-f'in-whatever degree headangle (including several choppers and shopping bikes - joke that one)
Big one
Small One
2 wheels
THE RIDER
Mondraker Dune - I hope
Why? - I just bought one
whatever the fastest rider is currently being paid to ride.
Small hardtail frame with 160mm forks, big brakes and dual ply tyres. Mainly because that is what I have.
A DH bike that pedals as well as an XC hardtail!
Zesty - fast, light, tough & agile...and I have one!
Liteville 301 Mk11. I want one.
a 13kg dh bike that pedals well
Tons tbh. Some folks doing well on big 29ers, Crawford Carrick Anderson wins most things he enters on a Mojo HD (which I rode and thought wasn't that good for the job, but then I'm a knobber), Gary Forrest's just moved Orange to Ibis and it'll probably make no difference, likewise Joe Barnes to Canyon... Dan Atherton on a GT that everyone else thinks is rotten...
Me, I need a knobber-bike, so I use a big slack Hemlock with massive tyres, coil forks and 2x9 so I can get up the hills without dying. Means I can ride everything that's likely to come up, but maybe a bit slowly ๐
Whatever bike you have. Unless your aiming for a top 10 then its all about having fun and some friendly rivailry with friends as far as Im concerned. Therefore bike choice is irrelevant.
Whatever bike you have. Unless your aiming for a top 10 then its all about having fun and some friendly rivailry with friends as far as Im concerned. Therefore bike choice is irrelevant.
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Whatever bike you have. [s]Unless[/s]If your aiming for a top 10 then [s]its all about having fun and some friendly rivailry with friends as far as Im concerned[/s]Skills matter more. Therefore bike choice is irrelevant.
I agree that skills matter more, and the importance of bike choice is over estimated.
Though not sure that unless you're aiming for top 10 you should just rock up for a bit of a larf. People will have put a lot of hard work, training and money into entering and we should be careful not to diminish these efforts by saying 'ah, it's only a bit of fun'.
Obviously it should be fun, but for some putting in their best performance will be just as important.
There's no hard and fast rule.
Because of the variance in format, steepness, terrain etc, there's not a "fixed" type or perfect bike. Factor in the physical fit of a bike, different rider types (some cope better on more pedally courses, some on more technical etc), and you have too many variables to have a "perfect" bike.
But as has been said, the top boys could smoke the rest of us on any old bike I reckon.......
The enduro format varies too much for there to be a "perfect" bike.
One event I was at a guy podiumed on a V10. If you'd taken a V10 to the Glentress Enduro you would have needed paramedic assistance after the first climb.
A slackish 140mm FS will get you round pretty much all enduro courses in one piece without necessarily ever being the perfect bike for the actual piece of trail you are on.
A Specialized Pitch Pro, because it's as capable as bikes that cost 4 times as much.
It can be made light, tough, is as solid as a rock descending, can climb (as well as any other 'Enduro' bike can).
And yes I have one.
NO such thing as a perfect bike for all enduros. Some are more like technical XC race courses and others are more like full on DH courses. Bike choice will be a compromise unless you have a few bikes and knowledge of the route in order to pick the right bike.
Sometimes the different stages in the same race can be totally different and warrant an entirely different bike.
Something from 140-160mm and make sure you are comfortable with the bike and the way it rides, then just practce so that you can get the most out of the bike on stages that don't quite suit it.
Fitness is also key. Just because the stages are mostly downhill, doesn't mean you can get away with being a fatty.
If you rode this: http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bikes/mountain/endurofsr/sworksendurocarbonA Specialized Pitch Pro, because it's as capable as bikes that cost 4 times as much.It can be made light, tough, is as solid as a rock descending, can climb (as well as any other 'Enduro' bike can).
And yes I have one.
You would be 5 times better.
Fitness is also key. Just because the stages are mostly downhill, doesn't mean you can get away with being a fatty.
Balls!!
A DH bike that pedals as well as an XC hardtail!
It's called a META AM/SX
Balls!!
Not really no there is a lot of sense.
juan - MemberBalls!!
Not really no there is a lot of sense.
I meant Balls as in I don't have a lot of fitness and I'm doing the first round of the gravity enduro series.
Well maybe that is because they are trying to accomodate for people lacking fitness.
You should be fit enough to make the climb in time. And if you ask me the allowed time for liaison, are way to important.
Nah I'm fairly fit, shouldn't be an issue. I'm only doing it for a bit of fun any way.
Tons tbh. Some folks doing well on big 29ers, Crawford Carrick Anderson wins most things he enters on a Mojo HD (which I rode and thought wasn't that good for the job, but then I'm a knobber), Gary Forrest's just moved Orange to Ibis
What don't you like about it (or what don't you think is that good for the job)?
It's possibly the finest pedalling/climbing enduro bike around, in fact almost certainly is. Don't underestimate the advantage of conserving energy on the climbs, not to mention in-stage climbing and/or pedally bits.
ps I dont own one. yet.
Rode a 'standard' Mojo HD for a week in Torridon last summer, really good bike and would rate it for Enduro stuff.
But as said above ride what you like and enjoy ๐
I think Mojo's are a really nice frame. There are some issues but they are more detailing issues eg the cable guides etc. Some people sy that they are quite short but the large feels a pretty good fit for me but then I have long legs and a short upper body. Recently my forks died so they are getting rebuilt by TF. Can't wait to get the forks back.
I don't think bad bikes really exist per say. The best for enduro though must surely be the s works enduro with a cc db air. That will be my next frame.
Make your mind up tommyhine....
first you say your not fit, then you are. which is it? ๐ ๐
he's just not bike fit
neallyman - MemberWhat don't you like about it (or what don't you think is that good for the job)?
A personal preference really but it mainly felt like a big bike trying to be a small bike- just not as confidence inspiring or as stable as, say, my Hemlock. Pedalled and climbed beautifully, very neutral handling, but I reckon there's shorter travel bikes that match it or outmatch it, without dragging round big forks.
But ymmv of course. Crawfy and Gary Forrest obviously don't agree ๐