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Firstly apologies for yet another what tyres thread, but this is fairly specific requirements.
Currently using hans dampf rear and magic mary front set up tubeless. Love the size, all round grip in most situations and weight of them, getting sick of the little 1-3mm holes that Peak District rock keeps putting in them (2 today) that don't self seal. Have tried more fluid (currently c 100 ml per tyre - stans) and different pressures (with out going too hard) with no effect. The schwable carcasses are just too fragile.
So what as a suitable replacement that is tougher but similar all round grip across varied surfaces, similar on the larger side size and weight?
Not quite similar weight, but try the supergravity versions of the HD and MM, I've run the HD in the peak for the last couple of years with no issues
I'm using Magic Mary/Rock Razor currently, but in Supergravity casing as I got bored of punctures. Completely stopped worrying about punctures now, though I did add some air to my rear tyre to save the rim from getting smacked into things too often.
@momo - I've got the super gravity versions of them for up lift days and the Alps, but they're too heavy a c 1kg each for long rides in the peak.i should add I'm not the lightest rider (in both weight & style) and I do like to attack things pretty fast
Most of our group (of 20-30) ride Maxxis EXO tyres of various types.
High Roller II, Minion, Ardents and Beavers.
Personally run HRII rear and Minion DHF front.
Budget versions are On-one Chunky Monkey and Smorgasbord.
The specialized grid casing is good - had excellent performance out of a set of ground controls grid round the peak this past year. That's a less substantial tyre than you are using, but all their range have grid options. Butcher is the big grippy tyre.
What are you riding in the Peak that you love the weight of the magic mary!? I have one of those on the front of my enduro bike and it's a grip monster, but way OTT for Peak loops. Unless you're just sessioning difficult stuff you might consider something faster.
Do the minions still come up small, been years since I've used them, like a big tyre on the front
@gary - for a front tyre I don't think just under 800gr is too bad (26"). Only one bike these days (mk2 nomad) so use it for greno / wharncliffe & 15-25 milers round the peak locally. Plenty in the peak where the extra grip is apreaciated (potato alley, beast, screaming mile, some of the cheeky trails off derwent edge etc etc) and as I have one do it all bike I tend to run do it all tyre
Speech Butchers front and rear here great tyre and yet to slap rip a tyre in the Lakes reasonable price at Evans !
Interested in this thread as I've found out to my cost that Continental apex/protection sidewalls don't cope well in the dark peak.
On a recently mountain bike holiday, the opinion of the guides was maxxis exo but avoid conti.
I've not tried them myself but while asking in shops local to the peak, the super gravity casing has also been recommended.
I think up to about a kilo per tyre is okay in the peak. Much more and you'll really feel it, much less if you like to poke it about on big stuff and you might be asking for trouble.
Next on my list to try are the e13 trs.
+1 for Spesh grid casing.
Butcher and Slaughter here, but the Purgatory will soon be going back on the rear for winter.
I had the same problem with the rear tyre, Nobby Nic pacestar being destroyed by the Peaks several times. Front Nobby Nic in trailstar still going strong though.
Moved to an Ardent Exo on the rear, worked so far.
Personally run HRII rear and Minion DHF front.
Me too, not had a problem with them in the Peak apart from when I tried running a silly low pressure down Hagg Side. Also Exo casings
We run Butcher/Purgatory combo on all our bikes. Most of our riding is done in the Peak, but we run them where ever we bike.
Maxxis exo - shorty / minion dhr2 here
Worked fine in Madeira too
I seem to be quite prone to pinches over the years. I've had problems with single ply Maxxis, Hans Dampf (non SG) and anything by Continental. But I've not yet managed to pinch an Exo Maxxis (I'm on my second set) so they get the thumbs up from me.
I don't think there's an easy answer here; heavier tyres are just more resilient. I spent years trying to save weight on tyres but I'm now certain it's not worth the hassle (for me at least). I don't know what I'd do if I were racing / needed lighter wheels.
TLDR; Maxxis Exo.
I tried the exo casing maxis,but found it way too fragile switched to specialised butcher/slaughter in grid casing and haven't had a puncture since.that was nearly 12 months ago now
I had high hopes for Butcher grids at Bike Park Wales recently and had three punctures during the day. Started off with both ends tubeless. Rim profile and tyre pressure is a big factor, not sure the promise of being able to run lower tyre pressures is entirely valid when fast and rocky. Dual ply is probably the answer in that respect but not up for pedalling those! Maxxis gives the best chance I reckon.