It was Fall Out Boy, definitely B
As with almost any 'accident' each one of the people concerned could have done something differently to prevent it happening.
Eh?
How are guys meant to train for races, if they can't ride at race pace on a dedicated DH bloody track? You're living up to your name there.
I've been there and got the tshirt too - some guy decided it'd be awesome to change his tube with his bike cross the trail upside down around a fast blind corner... completely wiped him out and proceeded to fly 15 foot forwards and down until my shoulder tucked nicely behind a raised root.
4 years later and it's just about back to strength after the operation!
Surey its strava's fault not the rider or the pusher.
We regularly get walkers on all the local purpose built trails here, including the one full on DH trail that is sanctioned by the FC. thankfully I'm so slow it doesnt bother me.
There could be a crashed rider or their bike on the trail. Unless your run is marshalled, you are always exposing yourself to a foreseeable but small risk (over and above the inherent risk of you just stacking all by yourself) if you go at race speed. The choice is yours.
So is the M25 but I tend to go with the flow of traffic.It's a public area though isn't it?
If there had been a fallen rider then it's just one of those things, nobody would complain.
Pushing up a DH track is potential Darwin Award territory though.
How are guys meant to train for races, if they can't ride at race pace on a dedicated DH bloody track? You're living up to your name there.
I didn't realise that when you buy an abusrdly expensive bouncy bike, it comes with a certificate allowing you to ride out of control and crash into people in public spaces. Nice one.
Nobody was out of control. The "stop in the distance you can see" arguement is bobbins too, exactly what is someone meant to do going over blind features?
Is it too early to mention baby robins?
nah it should've been along straight after the child's face tbh
Nobody was out of control.
So why didn't he stop?
...ride out of control and crash into people in public spaces...
Rider was in full control, he wouldn't have made it that far if he hadn't have been.
Not to mention that a lot of features have to be hit at speed to clear them,
copa - Member
So why didn't he stop?
Very good 🙂
If someone steps out in front of your car and you dont have time to avoid hitting them, does that mean you were out of control too?
If someone steps out in front of your car and you dont have time to avoid hitting them, does that mean you were out of control too?
Yes.
In 20 years of throwing myself downhills for fun, I know of one accident that has been "life changing" and that was nearly 15 years ago now. It's incredibly rare, and even given those astoundingly rare odds...it still would've been 100% the fault of the pushers...
The rider did have space to avoid the pusher, not saying he could have done so without crashing, but surely better to try and turn right and avoid the guy?
I only started this to get the child's face argument in. Didn't realise my fishing trip would be so fruitful.
But seeing as you asked - could you envision a situation where exactly the same circumstances of a walker or rider or baby robin or whatever on the trail didn't result in a crash. Would those circumstances involve riding more slowly? Even if a crash was unavoidable, would those circumstances lower the consequences of the crash?
Yes
Oh come on you're not even trying now!
[i]There could be a crashed rider or their bike on the trail[/i]
There [i]could [/i]be an alien invasion landing their saucer, or the Queen making a flying visit to Cannock and having a sly poo on the DH track.
But none of those things happened did they? What happened was a stupid mountain biker didn't use the right part of the track to get back to the top. And a completely wiithin his rights (very fast, Facebook browsing) mountain biker crashed into the "mental retard" because he was in the wrong bleedin place! 😡
yeah, we haven't even started on the inappropriate targeting of people with learning difficulties yet.......
[i]inappropriate targeting[/i]
I don't think he aimed for him. It was an accident 😉
The rider did have space to avoid the pusher, not saying he could have done so without crashing, but surely better to try and turn right and avoid the guy?
I'm not sure he did, from seeing the rider to impact only takes a couple of seconds and the rider is in the air when he hits him. You can hear him hit the brakes when he sees him but then he hits the jump, once he's airborne they're not going to do anything and steering won't help.
He'd have struggled to avoid the jump with the speed too, that bike would have wanted to keep going the direction it was
Did he have bombers on the front? I can't tell.
I can only assume those that believe you should always be able to stop within a bawhair braking distance are absolute shite bimblers?
Not within a 'bawhair' - just within the distance i can see to be clear.
But I am a shite bimbler too......
I only started this to get the child's face argument in. Didn't realise my fishing trip would be so fruitful.
i see your Edinburgh defence, and I claim my five Scottish groats/punds/oats/strumpets (or whatever the going rate is these days)
An ants bawhair for me......but I wear corrective lenses.
I claim my five Scottish groats/punds/oats/strumpets (or whatever the going rate is these days)
Smackeroonies.
theotherjonv - Member - Block User - Quote
Not within a 'bawhair' - just within the distance i can see to be clear
So what about, for example, the Off Beat Wall, at the end of the Fort William WC track. Super fast run in, into a mega steep drop/ chute that is completely blind until you're at the point of no return.
How do you stop there if someone decides to have a family picnic at the bottom of the drop?
I can only assume those that believe you should always be able to stop within a bawhair braking distance are absolute shite bimblers?
Yep. When in public areas, I generally prefer not to ride so fast that I can't avoid crashing into people and then acting like a self-entitled dickhead when I do. But horses for courses and all that.
then acting like a self-entitled dickhead when I do
I missed that bit in the video
Yep. When in public areas, I generally prefer not to ride so fast that I can't avoid crashing into people and then acting like a self-entitled dickhead when I do. But horses for courses and all that.
We have a winner.
[quote=copa ]I can only assume those that believe you should always be able to stop within a bawhair braking distance are absolute shite bimblers?
Yep. When in public areas, I generally prefer not to ride so fast that I can't avoid crashing into people and then acting like a self-entitled dickhead when I do. But horses for courses and all that.
Do you drive everywhere at <5mph?
I generally prefer not to ride so fast that I can't avoid crashing into people and then acting like a self-entitled dickhead when I do
Let me guess, you prefer to act like a dickhead on the internet?
chakaping: Nail. Head.
I've never been to Cannock - but a quick [url= http://www.chasetrails.co.uk/downhill/ ]browse[/url] tells me if I was on the DH track, I should be able to ride it like a DH track (if, indeed, I was capable of such behaviour) and not like a public bridleway off the South Downs.
Right, that section of track is right next to the push up which has another track next to that. The tracks and push up were separate and have been cut from one to another then brashed and taped off numerous times to stop riders and pushers running into each other. Riders think they know better and try to mix or change trails up for fun but it leads to this, which is why the FC have to approve stuff before it opens.
Sod the crash I more concerned about the shite music. Surely if you want to listen to music put headphones in and save everyone else having to listen to that crap.
Nobeerinthefridge - Member
Yep. When in public areas, I generally prefer not to ride so fast that I can't avoid crashing into people and then acting like a self-entitled dickhead when I do. But horses for courses and all that.
We have a winner.
Of today's Cockwombling Thundertwunt award....
i see your Edinburgh defence, and I claim my five Scottish groats/punds/oats/strumpets (or whatever the going rate is these days)
Denied. Was genuinely trolling, and given people don't believe it I must be up to at least 5/10 by now.
So what about, for example, the Off Beat Wall, at the end of the Fort William WC track. Super fast run in, into a mega steep drop/ chute that is completely blind until you're at the point of no return.How do you stop there if someone decides to have a family picnic at the bottom of the drop?
I wouldn't ride it. Sounds far too risky whether there's picnickers or not.
But as already noted I'm a shite bimbler with higher risk aversion than many others on here.
Good grief.
Well plaid STW.
damn, was looking forward to strumpet 😆
top trolling, sir!
Just out of interest. Is that track on private land and do you have to pay to ride it?
Just out of interest. Is that track on private land and do you have to pay to ride it?
It's a public area.
I have seen some bloke on a busy day at Cannock playing his music on bar-mounted speakers. His taste in music was rubbish and he was a tosspot.
On the original topic, despite what people have said about baby robins, kittens and kids on Barbie bikes - the plonkers walking up the track had full moto pyjamas on and full face lids. They must have known the score, or they are "all the gear" types.
A long time ago at Cannock I rounded a corner to find walkers going up one of the original tracks on the monkey trail. There were loads of signs at the bottom and they had a myriad of other tracks to walk on. After coming to a stop and politely telling them they were putting themselves and riders in danger, they carried on as before.
I can only conclude that they too were tosspots.
