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[Closed] What headangle for Bikepark Wales?

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Going to ride bikepark wales soon. Do I stick with 68 degree stock, fit a 0.5, 1 or 1.5 cane creek angleset?
I'd be stoked to the Max for the amount of gnar I can shred over the weekend the head angle is detrimental to my stoke factor


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 1:15 am
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Cane Creek? Noob. Works Components make higher quality, simpler angles.


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 1:23 am
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It depends on the length of your active front centre in relation to the feng-shui of your dynamic kinematics.


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 1:24 am
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Not sure, but you wouldn't want it to look too strange in the car park or the cafe....


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 1:34 am
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It all depends how long your arms are.


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 1:34 am
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Do 0.5 increments really give the range of adjustments you need? Fair play to you if you can ride a bike set up that casually, but I need mine at 0.1 degree increments maximum. You'd be buggered if it turns out you need 68.3...


 
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Do 0.5 increments really give the range of adjustments you need? Fair play to you if you can ride a bike set up that casually, but I need mine at 0.1 degree increments maximum. You'd be buggered if it turns out you need 68.3...

Or conversely does 0.5 actually make any meaningful difference at all apart from being able to state you have a [insert this weeks fashionable number] head angle ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 3:21 am
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I'd be more worried about which mud tyres to fit on the red / black routes. Some (Half cut?) were as slippery as he'll last weekend


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 5:03 am
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I've heard from a friend who's mate works in a bike shop and is sponsored that the trails come alive at 62deg HA at BPW.


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 8:50 am
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More importantly, what seat angle to set the uplift seat to to look most gnarrradsizzle??


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 9:10 am
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๐Ÿ˜€ stevede that's interesting. Generally the trails come alive at 65.08 HA, maybe its different for uplift centres


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 9:31 am
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I would wait till you get there - have breakfast, get changed, change your tyres for the conditions, have a go on the pump track, look in the shop and have some lunch in the cafe, do an uplift run then change your ha appropriately. Or to save time you could ask someone who has already done the run what your setup should be then tweak it before you ride...


 
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I've heard from a friend who's mate works in a bike shop and is sponsored that the trails come alive at 62deg HA at BPW.
Yeah, but only if you're running 650b. Amateur ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 9:48 am
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Head angle? seriously? ๐Ÿ™„ You need to get your stem angle right. That's the critical one.


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 9:49 am
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Do people really take a few pairs of tyres to a location then change when there? If so, you've got far too much time on your hands.


 
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Head angle? seriously? You need to get your stem angle right. That's the critical one.

Pffft. NOOOBZ!

Everyone knows that unless you have your brake lever angle [i]just so[/i], your gnarpoon will not shred a single gnat all day.


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 9:56 am
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Gnarpooning it down a roosty run with some serious stoke on is pointless unless your stem angle is perfect. Brakes can be fine tuned later. Get the stem right.


 
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That may well be the case, clubber, but when you're roosting the brown pow, braw, you need the brake angles just right, or else you risk losing all of your stoke.


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 10:01 am
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Stoke flows from stem to brakes. Brakes are like negative energy, man. Stem must be perfect before brakes.

tsk. amateurs.


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 10:03 am
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basics, clubber, BASICS:
How can you set a stem angle or anything else until your sled's buttery squish and sag have been dialled for the conditions ? I mean, all the stem angle in the world won't save you if your sus isn't riding high in its travel without spiking or losing low-speed damping


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 10:06 am
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Who said anything about actually [i]using[/i] your brakes?

Good Lord, no! Brake angle is vital to ensure you can get your pro elbows out ready for some serious filming. That way, when you drop your edit, you'll get more props. Dood.


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 10:07 am
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A-MA-TURS

Stem angle is all that matters.


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 10:09 am
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74.375 deg, lets he bike hang right


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 10:14 am
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isnt the black trail .25 slacker than the red though, you may have take a few tools with you so you can swap over at different stages. being that tad slacker on the black when you hit the red could, and i use that term loosely, could be bad for your health.

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Posted : 14/11/2013 10:26 am
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The force is indeed [s]strong[/s] rad to the power of sick with that stem.

ORSUM.


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 10:28 am
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Thanks for the gnarinfo to really make the most of my day. Ive decided to take all possible angleset cups with me. Just spoken with the workshop at bikepark wales and they are willing to let me 'pitstop'. Each run I'll be changing the headangle. This will all me to find optimum stoke rad factor.
I'll be compling an XML spreadsheet noting my findings.
Just discovered offset shock bushes... :mrgreen:
I hope this will be a benchmark that will really make the trails come alive


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 11:07 am
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We're only 10 mins down the road and have a big box full of head angles, I'll give you a bulk discount on multiples of 5


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 11:13 am
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But what colour should you wear?


 
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Welsh Stoking


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 11:14 am
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Purple. Always.


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 11:14 am
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"sled's buttery squish"

and

"Gnarpooning it down a roosty run with some serious stoke on"

I salute you both.


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 11:37 am
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The force is indeed strong rad to the power of sick with that stem.

Nah, you need a [i]remote[/i] dropper stem.


 
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We're only 10 mins down the road and have a big box full of head angles, I'll give you a bulk discount on multiples of 5

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But what colour should you wear?

What colour head angle? I'd understood every word up until then!


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 11:46 am
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Magnolia, works with everything


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 11:49 am
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Just book a guide for the day: [url= ]BPW guides[/url]

All these difficult questions will be answered and there is no risk of getting lost.


 
Posted : 14/11/2013 11:56 am
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We're only 10 mins down the road and have a big box full of head angles, I'll give you a bulk discount on multiples of 5

Are they kashima head angles or just the standard ones? I hear the kashima makes the angles buttery smooth.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 11:31 am
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Are they kashima head angles or just the standard ones? I hear the kashima makes the angles buttery smooth.

Can colour them in with a marker if you like...


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 12:04 pm
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My head angles are murdered out.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 12:05 pm
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I think you'll need another whole bike specifically for Bike Park Wales, the riding there is so incredibly different to anywhere else on the planet, having a head angle that is out by 1 degree is just unthinkable.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 12:05 pm
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My head angles are murdered out.

Murdered out is the new 'stealth' so I'm told


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 12:06 pm
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OT, but,

In the Alps this summer we had a kind of "Twilight" thing going on (although not quite as gay obviously) between the "murdered out" gothic riders and the old skool Euro-Fluro gang.

Half the group looked like they were ex mountain rescue, the other half were completely invisible when under the trees.......


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 12:39 pm
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My head angles are murdered out.

Murdered out is the new 'stealth' so I'm told

The new 'ninja' surely?


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 2:20 pm
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'Ninja' is soooooo 2012 though isn't it? ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 2:22 pm
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Post on this [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/makes-whatever-come-alive-banable-offence#post-5513618 ]thread[/url] and you'll get the exact angle you need


 
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'Ninja' is soooooo 2012 though isn't it?

More medieval I was thinking. (Or teenage 'ultimate warrior'. :-))


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 2:26 pm
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Right who put the volvo tag on ๐Ÿ‘ฟ It borrowed ok :-p


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 2:41 pm
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Not sure about angles but i like to keep my head fairly upright so that i can see what I am about to crash into.. After that the initial impact the angle tends to change somewhat..

Hope that helps


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 2:59 pm
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Just noticed elbry will be there tomorrow. Rad! I'm going to ask him about his gnar headangle. Rad to the power of sick


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 10:27 pm
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I'm going tomorrow. Nearly 40. Pretty grey. Expensive bike. Started a BPW question thread. Will be wearing purple shorts. Helmet cam footage of gnarpooned blue runs to follow. Hear me now!


 
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Elbry is going to be there?

#cancelsplans


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 10:42 pm
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I can't believe no one's asked what stem length for bpw. I'll be taking a selection next time from 40 to 110mm and be changing it depending on conditions / run colour / phase of the moon / colour of my shorts. Once that's dialed everything else should slot into place. Mind you, I ride a 29er so the rules are probably different.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 11:11 pm
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29er?
The trails will feel dead.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 11:14 pm
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I had noticed a trail of smoking destruction behind me, hadn't realized it was caused by my monster wheels. Best I change em for this week's size of choice. What wheel size for bpw? ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 11:59 pm