Well pretty much as the title, lot is made in the mags that under 30lb bikes are all dayers and anything over is 'heavy'...see mbr.......I was chatting to a bloke at a conference who through the 'ice breakers' found out was a mtber and started chatting he got tosaying that his 07SC Heckler with Fox 36 Van and heavy wheel set was under 30lb, to be honest I did not believe him.
Do we con ourselves with bike weight.............and does it matter??
Litespeed Kitsuma 29lbs on a good day
Other bike 36lbs
Giant NRS - about 32lbs with light tyres IIRC.
SS - not sure, no scales to weigh it here, I'd guess at 25 though. Must buy scales.
The only one I've ever weighed is my dh bike. Iron horse sunday with the DT cheese race wheels on 38lb.
ti456, 26.6lbs.
hummer, 27.2lbs
helius AM 32.2lbs.
6 pack 35.4lbs
all weights certified.
i'm no further or faster on either of them although the 6 pack on big tyres does drag a bit more 🙄
old bike just under 24lb
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new bike rolls on the flats slower but the tyres are much bigger on it and ive not gone tubeless at the min, but it decends much better - longer bike tho and more travel. but what did shock me as it weighs 4lb more is that it also climbs better . how much of that is down to the bike or the fact the shock is pushed where on the anthem it wasnt im not sure but its a much better all round bike even tho it weighs more
inbred 28lbs (ss, reba sl's)
meta 5.5 34lbs.
weighed on pretty crappy aldi fishing scales!
Never weighed any of my bikes, I just try and keep things sensible when I buy bits for them.
Not sure of the weights but my carbon fibre Scott is quite light but noticably heavier than my rigid Ti SS. I do notice a big difference between them but not sure if it is the suss, the gears or the weight.
Assuming my digital scales are roughly on the mark;
Inbred - 27.5lbs
Five (setup for XC) - 29.4lbs/(setup for Alps etc - 33lbs
I physically find it a real drag to ride XC on anything over 30lbs because I'm quite light myself. But a mate whose a couple of stone heavier merrily rides all day XC on a Heckler that's over 30lbs. Horses for courses I reckon.
Mine is 22.4lb
New one should be under 19lb
Lighter bikes are good for XC.
Using bathroom scales and deducting me from me+bike: TranceX - 27.5lbs
I'm in love with that Anthem.
Steveh - that's a light Sunday, what's your build spec?
only bike I Have under 30lb is my roadbike.
Roadbike 23
BMX 30
Hardtail 31
Mini DH 37
DH 42
other DH 49
only weighed on bathroom scales so dunno how accurate they are
a sub 30lb Heckler with strong rims sounds entirely feasable to me
Well:
Giant NRS - 27lbs
Felt Redemption - 34lbs
Ride the Felt on all days in the Peaks/Wales/Trail centres etc...
NRS is for Local Sherwood Pines duties.
Yes My Felt is heavy, but tbh i'm fitter and have more fun on a bike because of it, and it climbs better (on rough stuff) than my NRS.
btw - weight isn't an issue for me - knowing them's a consequence of my dealers' curiosity - he likes to weigh in regularly !
Specialized Enduro SL (S-works) = 28.9lbs all in... not too shabby for a 6" travel bike 🙂
Scott Genius ~21.5lbs
Pedalforce QS2 ~14.5lbs
Giant Anthem 0 24lbs
Whyte E-120 26lbs
Specialized Enduro 33lbs
09 Nomad DHX 5 Ti Coil
09 36 Vans
XO
Hope/DT 5.1d/Rubber Queens
Formula
Thomson etc.
32lb
Kona Heihei FS 21lbs
Orange 5 26lbs
Orange Patriot 31lbs
The Patriot is way slower up hills than the 5, which in turn is significantly slower than the Heihei. Weight really does make it a hell of a lot easier. Yes I know you can take a crap before you ride, but you have a light bike you can still take a crap before you ride.
The Heihei has an 80mm fork and is great on XC and even enduro races, but at the Kona Mashup I really did take a hell of a beating on the arms on the sustained downhills. It could take a 100mm fork though without pushing the weight up much, which I am sure would help.
I recently sold a large scalpel frame and weighed it at 5.2 lbs on digital bathroom scales. Not the most accurate maybe, but thought that was heavy for a dedicated XC race bike.
think this came up at 24/25lbs? not bantamweight for rigid ss but ride makes up for it
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i've only wieghed two of my bikes and both were heavier than I had estimated.
Now i concentrate in trying to get my own weight down and try to get fitter.
i've wondered this recently,
the bike weights quoted by manufacturer's i think are a bit optimistic,
usually without pedals and without any paraphernalia such as bottle cages/light mounts/curd catchers (real world things)
jumped on my bathroom scales and subtracted my weight and found my hardtail to be 27.3lbs, took off said paraphernalia and came down to 27lbs
was a little bit shocked as im running r7's platinums and very light finishing kit and lightish wheels,
i think(i know) a lot of weigh is hiding in the drive train,
anyway since my change off wheels and tyres my bike has definately felt a bit more spritely up the hills,
so i think its where the weight is that is probably most important,
My nomad is about 35ish give or take a pound. Fine for all dayers.
On-One 456 32lbs
Mongoose Teocali Elite 33lbs
Both weighed at work on calibrated scales.
Lighter bikes are good for XC.
Depends what you mean by "XC". 😉
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Meta 5 / Pikes / XT etc - 31 lbs
ChiTi / RC31s / XTR - 21 lbs
Calibrated scales
I agree that many of the published weights are hopelessly optimistic and I've often expressed surprise at some folks estimated weights.
Does anyone know why we still weigh bikes in pounds? 😕
EU directive......imperial for weight.....meteric for travel????
Manufacters are optomistic with weight I would agree
Agree that there is lots of BS going on with weights. Manufacturers omit the pedals, use the smallest frame etc.
People are also too optimistic or have rubbish scales - aracer you quote 21.5 lbs for a Scott Genius. Sorry, but rubbish - Scott website shows Genius 10 carbon which goes for about £3500 as 25 lbs.
The issue of weight is way overdone unless you race. Pedalling efficiency, comfort, cost, longevity of frame and components all have to be thrown into the mix. Do you buy a car on the basis of what it weighs?
Blur LT2, RP23, Pikes, X9, Hope Minis, DT 4.2 - 30lbs
853 Inbred is about 26-27
Jake is about 21
I could easily make either lighter if I wanted to waste money and / or make them weaker
I try not to worry too much and concentrate on how they ride
The issue of weight is way overdone unless you race. Pedalling efficiency, comfort, cost, longevity of frame and components all have to be thrown into the mix. Do you buy a car on the basis of what it weighs?
No, but you factor performance into the mix, which is basically the same thing. You will go loads faster up hills on a nice light bike. Whether or not you have to compromise on other things you may like is another matter. It all depends on preference and how you ride, but don't knock light bikes (or those who like them) unless you've tried a good one.
My 456 is 33lbs but then I couldn't really care less about weight 😀
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Although shaving weight by not having bar end plugs 😉
People are also too optimistic or have rubbish scales - aracer you quote 21.5 lbs for a Scott Genius. Sorry, but rubbish - Scott website shows Genius 10 carbon which goes for about £3500 as 25 lbs.
Sorry, but that is on an accurate hanging scale. How do you know how I have my bike specced to pass judgement on it (given the Genius is still one of the lightest FS frames)? The Genius on Scott's site is of course a MC 6" travel freeride bike, whilst mine is one of the old RC 3.5" travel race models and specced as such - oh and that weight is with not only pedals and bottle cage, but also computer.
I also race on it - though I'd suggest that for most people racing weight doesn't actually make that much difference. However my races often involve substantial amounts of lifting and carrying the bike, which is the point you really notice the difference!
Sub 5 at about 27lbs all in (approximation due to bathroom scales).
Srange to have this topic come up as I have just been out on my son's Felt Virtue which weighs around 28-29lbs and have been moaning about how heavy it feels compared to my 24.5lb HT. It is set up for himand not at all how I would have grips bars etc so is it the weight or is it the unfamiliar set up that made me feel that my legs were windmiling but going nowhere?
Dialled PA:30lbs
04 S/works Enduro:31.1lbs
06 Turner RFX:33lbs normally,but in current "mini dh"mode,37lb
Giant Faith:46lb
My 2004 heckler is 31 pounds and thats with a 32 talas and heavy-ish wheelset. Other bits are a mix of hone/xt/xtr/thomson. think that guy was talking mush. cant see how it'd be less than that with a vanilla 36
28.6lbs (13kg)
20" Kona easton framest
RS Reba SL
Mavic 719
XT/XTR/Deore mix
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Solo MTB about 26 - 27 lb with bottle racks and mudguards and b1g tough wheels
Tandem around 50lbs
My commuter around 30lb. Mrs TJs commuter around 26lb
All weighed on bathroom scales so accuracy will be low.
As for weight making little difference I was surprised how much it does make. a mate has a lightweight 22+lbs bike and a 30+lb bike I can keep up with him when he is on the heavy one but not when he is on the light one when climbing. This difference is about 4-5% of the total all up weight of rider and bike.
All my bikes have to be carried up 106 stairs at the end of each ride so weight is important to me. 25lbs is the ideal weight iIMO - 30+lbs is far too heavy
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Depends what you mean by "XC".
The BUSA XC course went over that drop in 2005. Plenty of XC bikes cleared it.
My Spesh Rockhopper is just under 24lbs, it accelerates very quick, climbs well and with the right tyres rolls fast. IÃm happy with it as it is now, I donÃt want to get it any lighter as the back end is twitchy enough over the rough stuff at this weight.
ac282, that's my point! It's an XC trail, but I wouldn't want to be doing it on a 19lb bike. I expect most of the people on lighter bikes gave it a wide berth...
Scott Strike carbon - about 28lbs normally. 27lbs with race tyres and tubes.
Blur 4X - 29.6 lbs (on bathroom scales so only approx)
Tinbred (original) with Rebas - 26.5 lbs
Scandal 29er - don't know but noticably lighter than the Blur 4X (to pick up)
I reckon my '03 Heckler with '03 Z1s and 5th Coil must be about 32/33lbs.
I bought one of these.
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Yeti 575 25.9lbs
Ti 456 23.5lbs
Both are pretty light builds though.
Road bike - 21 lb
Full sus - 30ish lb
Hard tail - suprisingly heavy!about 28 - 29 lb
Interesting thread as yesterday I borrowed the balance from my LBS to weigh my own bikes;-
Cotic Soul - 29.6 lbs
Kona Dawg - 33.6 lbs (and nearly all the components are the same as the Cotic !?)
SX Trail - 39.5 lbs
I was a bit surprised at the first two as I was expecting them to be lighter.
I don't think I've ever weighed my bikes.
my Rocky Mountain ETSX is about 27lbs in 'race mode' with lighter tyres / olympic rims on proIIs. in all day / training mode its about 29lbs. really notice the difference with the lighter wheels / tyres on it. Could probably go a bit lighter if I swapped the coil revelations for something else and found a different saddle that agrees with my arse (currently on an SDG bel air) but its deminishing returns for here on in and in its current guise its pretty bomb proof. Keep thinking of an anthem X but can't justify spending £850 on a new frame when I've got a hand made canadian one which does everything
Not sure how much my soul weighs, probably around 27-28lbs but its not built up with anything s****y
I imagine your ability to ride all day is more dependant on the area, weather and fitness than how much your bike weighs. I gave up worrying when I bought a 456, I soon got used to the burlier build and was able to continue doing the same all day routes with no issue. Unless you get silly and try riding a downhill bike then it won't make that much difference.
but I wouldn't want to be doing it on a 19lb bike. I expect most of the people on lighter bikes gave it a wide berth...
Pretty sure my 21.5lb one would be up to it - I reckon I've ridden worse (the limitation is the rider not the bike).
Maverick ML7 weighs just over 26lb
Genesis Altitude 853 Hardtail just under 26lb
Both could be lighter, mainly the wheel department, but I don't like flexy light wheels (I run Mavic 819 UST rims, VERY stiff rim).
DH bike was about 37lb, but it's been dismantled now as I rarely used it.
Dialled Alpine with Fox 36's, 721's on bulbs, single ply high rollers and 9 speeds?
Probably around 33lbs? The rest of the kit is pretty average to lightish stuff
Fly Pantera bmx is somewhere around 26lbs i would say
Cotic Soul, bang on 26lbs, I'm happy with that.
2004 Turner 5-Spot 29.2 lbs
2004 Giant TCR Zero(with guards and lights) 20 lbs
1998/99 Ritchey Swisscross 21.86 lbs
De-Kerf Team SL 23.66 lbs
Thanx Max
Finding it quite intresting how heavy hardtails are coming out at....not race bikes but still more than I thought
Cannondale Carbon Rush 4
27.75 lbs
After I have reached my target with my weight loss, I will start on the bike
Trek 8000ZR hardtail 2006.
In winter running mode with mud tyres, lights and mudguards : 27 lbs dead.
Marv
My ML7 is a genuine 23.5lb built up with pedals and a DUC32. I don't really know the weight of owt else I own. My ti hardtail is, I think, about 35.6lb and my Voodoo Wanga singlespeed about 19lb or so, just from lifting them up and also extrapolating with the kitchen scales. At any rate, heavier bikes are always going to climb better because the extra weight results in superior traction. I've found climbing on very light bikes a real issue because of this factor and often out-climb myself on a lighter bike using a heavier one. It seems counter-intuitive at first, but if you think about the physics of traction and climbing, it does make sense.
At any rate, heavier bikes are always going to climb better because the extra weight results in superior traction.
Well that's certainly an individual point of view 😐
I would have thought the biggest impact on traction would be rider weight and distrubution, tyre design and pressure, frame geometry, fork setup etc - I wouldn't think that adding weight to a bike - all other things being equal - would make it go faster up hills.
Perhaps some experimentation is in order.
Marv
Heckler 31lb with coil lyriks and dhx coil here. DT wheels, xtr/x0, carbon and ti bits. I don't think i could get it much lighter without compromising it.
I would have thought the biggest impact on traction would be rider weight and distrubution, tyre design and pressure, frame geometry, fork setup etc - I wouldn't think that adding weight to a bike - all other things being equal - would make it go faster up hills.Perhaps some experimentation is in order.
If you'd bothered to read my post properly, you'd see that I have indeed experimented and in my experience, the heavier bike is generally faster for the reasons I explained. Obviously that's within certain parameters and I'm not saying that a bike weighing, say, 50lb will be faster than one that weighs half that, but in my experiments, a bike weighing 30lb was significantly better at climbing than one weighing 14lb. The lighter bike simply refused to hold traction and was bouncing all over the trail whereas the heavier one, despite using suspension front and rear, was able to dig in and climb.
I know it sounds illogical, but I saw it with my own eyes.
Demo 7: 37lbs
Blur LT: 24lbs
Road Bike: i don't know maybe 14lbs
In descending order (includes dark side content)!
Dekerf Elysium Ti with XTR, Marta SLs and Durins (19.5"): 22.5 lbs
Pinnacle CX Team cross bike SRAM Rival 09 (L): 19.1 lbs
Felt TK2 track bike: 16 lbs
new Cervelo R3sl road bike with SRAM Red (58cm): 14.6 lbs!!!
Aye, there's something to be said for bringing the ale gut out with you on the climbs - it really does give traction on steep and loose ascents. I've trundled past many a weenie man walking his bike on a particularly steep climb in the Pentlands.
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Wow that's me...
That XC bike did end up cracking after all the XC riding I did with it, that frame weighed under 6 pounds the bike probably was around 27ish..
My bike weights more with me sat on it!
😉
Prophet - over 35lbs.
Scott FS - 33lbs.
456 SE - 27-33lbs (wheels, tyres, bits).
Kona A - 8.6kg (whatever that is in pounds).
All weighed on a Topeak Prepstand elite wth calibrated weighing scales.
Ibis Mojo, 26.8 lbs
On-One Ti456 24.3 lbs
Kona A 23.5 lbs
Klein Attitude 22.9 lbs
Airborne Lucky Strike 17.2 lbs (without pedals)
When I had them
Orange P7one 29.8 lbs
Santa Cruz Chameleon 25.2 lbs
Cotic Soda, 23.9 lbs
Cove Hummer 24.8 lbs
Rocky Mountain ETSX 27.8 lbs
Man good to finally see some honest and realistic weights.I laugh when these 20pd bikes turn up.We all take it with a pinch of salt.Getting a fully under 24 pd and a hardtail under 22 only occurs is in the land of dreams and if it did occur how long do u think the bike would last.Its hard enough getting a singlespeed ultra light and they have the benefit of no gears.Granted taking a couple of pounds off any bike certainly does make going up a lot easier.
Lapierre Spicy 916 - 32lbs - albeit a few spec changes to the original bike 😉
My full Suss in winter Kit Yeti ASR weighs 24.5lbs - come race time it will be around 22lbs
thansk Badlywireddog for confirming my own belief re heavier bikes and climbing.....i for one agree.
reign, 35.5lbs, stiffee, 31lbs.
Kona 'The King' with a few new bits weighs just over 26lb
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is near enough local riding for me (i'm edinburgh)
ride it all the time, used to be on my 21lb race ht (carbon scott scale, full xtr/reba world cups/stans olympic wheelset)
now on a (carbon) scott spark (kit as other bike) 1.1 lb heavier than that...
don't really see a problem with it, i also put both bikes down the dh tracks at inners...
its rider, not bike!
and the important weights,
are full sus race bike 22lb.
road bike 15lb
and coastings, its nothing like the land of dreams,
i know plenty of friends with race ht's under 21lb...
Badlywireddog, you SURE your Mav is 23.5lb with a DUC on it? Mine is just over 26lb with a DUC, and a pretty light build. OK, I could lose 1lb off the wheels and tyres, maybe a tiny bit off the pedals and the saddle, and XTR cranks a bit over XT, but 23.5lb for an ML7 with a DUC sounds VERY light if you ask me!
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21lb scandal SS
My SX Trail may not be the lightest bike here, but at 31.2 lbs I'm prttey chuffed with it.
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