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Toying with idea of getting a Camelbak Mule as seen with a big discount.
Years ago they were the go-to pack for big rides...still the case? Has no rain/crap cover but not sure that's a deal breaker. Have a Vango which does the job but had a few years now. Weighing up whether it's worth changing...
wingnut.
Evoc, Enduro with protector.
Very comfortable.
Had the same Wingnut Hyper 2.5 for 9 years, one zip doesnt work anymore but its struggling on.
Will replace with another when it stops being functional.
I have a 2016 mule and one of the originals (2003?) which is still going strong even though the bladder has long since crumbled. The fabric on the newer pack is thinner and less waterproof but construction still seems good. On a wet day I put things inside a plastic bag for extra protection.
Probably not the go-to choice any more but still a decent pack IME
Just given my Vango a once-over - it doesn't need replacing if I'm honest. It has an integral rain cover too.
Had a Mule back in the day and liked it and they are now £40 with 3 ltr bladder instead of £100...think I'm just being a ponce as the Charcoal Grey colour is a good match for new bike 😉
Osprey. Radial 34 commute, Raptor 6 mtb. Both excellent. Tried the Source hipster thing ... did not like it. Years ago the Camelbak HAWG (still have in the garage) which was good but it was 15/20 years ago and modern packs are very advanced now in comparison.
Edit - the HAWG is actually 21 years old!!!!!
Osprey raptor. Very comfortable and has some excellent, useful features.
Looking to perhaps get an evoc enduro at some point.
The new Dakine packs are great. Comfortable with really nice magnetic tube clip. Also keeps back pack away from back so less sweaty. It replaced a stolen Evoc black line which was great but the top handle used to rub on my neck.
I Have evoc bags that are well designed 3L/6L and also an osprey raptor 10L?
I like them all, only problem with the osprey is it has so many pockets and areas to hide things so it's for big days only when I want to carry the extras, I'm toying with getting a camelback fanny hip pack
Another vote for wingnut
Raptor.
Assorted Evoc Enduro and Photo backpack plus DaKine camefa bags. And fir simple ride out the Aldi cheap ones. I also have a Camelbak witgph a waist bladder, a Runner's one.
Source hip pack
Camelbak Skyline , I've got a neck full of arthritis and its taken all the weight off my neck and shoulders .
Evoc enduro are great back packs with bonus protection. The shape is long and thin and can take some getting used to. I have three from skinny 10l to fat 30l and have had no failures whatsoever in five years. Not cheap but from my motorcycle experience I question why you would ride with out a back protector?
Raptor
Wingnut Hyper 2.5,comfortable and love the side pockets
Alpkit Gourdon.
Light and simple, which I prefer.
Not as cheap as they were, may investigate alternatives next time, but pretty much perfect for me as is.
OspreyRapor6, a complete revelation compared to my admittedly old Camelbaks.
HTH.
+1for the gourdon , had for 3yrs now ,dragged up crags used for commuting and on mtb , looks tatty now but still waterproof and no faff
Osprey Raptor 14 superb pack and a great company.
Another Raptor here.
I've had a lezyne adroit pack for 5-6 years, it's been brilliant, really well thought it inside, good storage on the outside, extra sturdy. It's just started to look a little tired so I thought I'd ask for a replacement for my birthday, but lezyne don't make packs anymore!! Moved onto an ergon bx3,or ba3, I forget which. Not used properly yet, looks nice though.
Osprey Viper.
Just got an Osprey Raptor 14 to replace a 12 odd year old NF Hammerhead (I think). Only one ride in but very impressed - I tend to carry a fair bit and the pockets and pouches are really well thought out. Love the little tool roll at the bottom. Seems to move around a bit less too.
Dakine Nomad or a Camelbak Blowfish. Both ancient.
(I think the Camelbak's a Blowfish, had it that long I can't remember, could be a Mule)
Camelbac Outlaw from 2005, I bought it because it has a so-dar so you can carry a helmet on it, brilliant for roaming town in the Alps etc.
The only things that have broken in 12 years are the little tags on the zips, replaced by cheap ones from Mountain Whorehouse. It's been through the washer more than a few times and there's some mould stains where it say dirty and unloved for 6 months after a crash.
Another Wingnut fan, have had the same hyper 3.0 for around 10 years
Got an Osprey Raptor 14 from wiggle a few weeks ago for £45. It's great, really comfy and some great features.
Tried wingnut, very good,tried camelbak very good as well but Osprey win by a country mile.
P-Jay - Member
The only things that have broken in 12 years are the little tags on the zips, replaced by cheap ones from Mountain Whorehouse.
........"honestly I only went so I could empty my sack" 😯
Although I'm surprised they touched it.........
there's some mould stains where it say dirty and unloved for 6 months after a crash.
😀 😀
I have both the 2017 Mule and Skyline.... will you be disappointed with the Mule? Absolutely not. It's a great bag and very comfy to ride all day with. It quickly replaced my Skyline as my go to bag even for short rides. Along with it's massive capacity I like the fact it has stiffer central airflow column. This helps distribute the pack weight to your hips and off your shoulders much like a framed hiking bag will.
Osprey Raptor. Great bags. Saved my spine in Courchevel when I folded a back wheel at speed and landed twenty yards away on my back.
Bust the water pack - was so dazed that I kept standing up and leaning over - repeatedly emptying the contents on my head.
But I can still walk. Which is nice.
🙂
I have bought several over last 10 years: -
- Osprey Raptor 10 - only one ride in, but very comfortable with lots of useful features - like the tool roll and the Hydrapak bladder is nice too
- Camelback Charge 10LR. Great features and carrying capacity - but the lumbar reservoir was really uncomfortable
- Wingnut Hyper 3. Low on features, high on usability and comfort. Probably the best pack although zip seems a bit of a weakness
- Dakine AMP 24. Bit big for anything but epics, but cinches down a lot and has a lot of great features for tool and other storage. Also, supremely comfortable with a well-ventilated bike. Almost as good as the Wingnut. Great helmet storage and enough room for pads
Raptor here
Still using an old Dakine Drafter. Haven't seen anything better.
Perfect size.
Quite water proof.
Doesn't have a heap of straps flapping about.
A pocket for everything you need.
Even a strap for the Bell chin bar.
Wingnut splitback, just big enough for everything I want to carry, light and accessable side pockets, really comfy.
Camelbak Lobo with a 3l bladder. A few years old now but comes up a treat in the washing machine and does the trick for several hours of riding. I add a stretchy "pack down your waterproof jacket" type netty thing inside the compression area when I need to carry some extra layers or pick up extra extra food en route.
I have 2 EVOC's, the back protector ones. A 10l that I use most of the time, and a 20l that I use for big days/out with groups etc.
Great packs, expensive, but after years of Camelbak Mule's I find them more comfy, more stable and with the reassurance of the protector, as I have been known to fall off 🙂
I have a mavic one. Its good but just good. Im a bit miffed at the cost.
If i was buying again id buy an ospray one. But then everyone has one and thats the reason i didnt get one last time.
iainc - Member
I have 2 EVOC's, the back protector ones. A 10l that I use most of the time, and a 20l that I use for big days/out with groups etc.Great packs, expensive, but after years of Camelbak Mule's I find them more comfy, more stable and with the reassurance of the protector, as I have been known to fall off
Same as me. 10L EVOC most of the time, and a 20L one when I need extra carrying capacity (which TBH is rare). Find them much more stable than anything else. Wouldn't ride without a back protector type bag now.
Have they improved the zips on the more recent Wingnut bags?
They used to be terrible and the only reason I said I wouldn't buy another one as everything else was perfect.
I have a black wingnut hyper 2.5 that I would be happy to offload if someone wants to make me an offer. It's hardly been used as I rarely ride with a pack. Happy to send some pics across.
I'm a serial bag swapper..
I've always said the Wingnut is the best design, really poorly executed. Minimal features, thin fabric, and poor zips.
I'm on a camelbak Charge LR at the mo - much better build quality, almost as comfy as the wingnut, MUCH tougher.
I'm tempted by those source ones on facebook (and I see on the STW front page now!)... though I can't justify more bags at present!
DrP
Osprey Raptor 10 for me. Light, comfortable and Osprey aftercare is superb.
Have a Mavic 8.5L and an Evoc 16L Enduro, both do the job well and hold a 3L bladder, the Evocs used for those long day rides and the Mavic does well for shorter jaunts. Both seem to be of good build and are coping well.
Just replaced my 2003 Mule this year with a Skyline. Mule still going strong despite being used 100's of times (bladder replaced obvs) but just fancied a change. Also have a Camelbak Octane XCT for when I used to run ultra's - they just seem to work and go on for ever.
richardkennerley - Member
I've had a lezyne adroit pack for 5-6 years, it's been brilliant, really well thought it inside, good storage on the outside, extra sturdy. It's just started to look a little tired so I thought I'd ask for a replacement for my birthday, but lezyne don't make packs anymore!! Moved onto an ergon bx3,or ba3, I forget which. Not used properly yet, looks nice though.
I've got the bx3 and it's very comfortable. The reason I got it was because of the adjustable length - most packs out there don't really cater to tall people and you end up with the waist strap halfway up your torso.
Not as good a layout as a dakine/osprey/camelbak but I can live with that for the comfort benefits.
I'm using a USWE Airborne9. After using a long list of Camelbak's and variants I was never happy with the pressure around the waist when done up or the lack of stability without it.
The sternum strap, that the USWE packs use, completely negates this issue. I forgot I was wearing it after 5 minutes, it's super easy to get on and off and completely stable.
It doesn't really work if you are a lady though.. But I'm not so I don't worry about that.!!
First gen Ergon BX3 here, new one seems to have better access to pockets on the front but other than that the this one has been good for five years.
I think I have had 10-12 different packs before Ergon and it was first that really fits. It is also fairly light and so cofy thatI often use it without bladder for short rides.
Looking Camelbak LR models now but I have to try them on before buying.
Evoc with protector - comfy and perhaps larger than I need but don't notice it tbh.
As others have mentioned, wouldn't ride with out a protector now after doing some damage on a local trail.
Another CB Lobo here, it's great. Room for pump, tube, tools, food etc and light n easy when less full. Great pack, magnetic straw catch is super useful too
OP here...thanks for the replies.
Seems to be a lot of love for the Wingnut and Osprey...not so much for the Mule I started the thread for opinions of 😉 As I said there's niot really anything wrong with the Vango Rapide 20 I have so might stick with it...after all it has a cover and a 3ltr Camelbak bladder in it anyway. Interesting to hear what people are using though...
evoc FR lite - not the biggest though. back protector works
Kriega R25 with the hydration bladder and a Kube pocket on the left strap. It's the most comfortable backpack I've used and has survived 5 years of heavy use, including motorcycle touring as well as cycling in all weathers often overloaded. It's not entirely waterproof but keeps out the worst of the rain.
Osprey viper 9
