[Closed] Video of the new black trail at Grizedale.

Looks good.

Whereabouts does it start and finish?

So, to get to the finish, climb up the fireroad from the visitor center, go 180 degrees round the bend and up the hill. You'll see the start of the North Face Traill on the left, carry on another 150 yards and the finish is on the left hand side.

To get to start, just before the finish you'll see a bridleway heading up the hill, go all the way up to the top and then turn right and carry on up the hill. You'll see the start on the right hand side. You can't miss it as there 3 big steps to get down / jump over to start.

Hope that makes sense, it's easier to describe how to get to the finish in order to find the start.

*For Locals* The start is just past where the Woodcutter used to be ( it's now been taken down sadly )

How long is the new black trail?

Looks much better than the other stuff but I really do like the bridleway descents far too much in Grizedale.

Looking good guys. Well done!

Alex222, not long, BUT, it's only the first piece, hopefully, over time, the trail will grow into a more of a network.

The reality is, the more people come and dig the more trails there will be to ride.

You dig ?

Drac, I agree, but there are now soooooo many people hammering the trails, if we can take a bit of pressure off the existing BWs and get some more riders onto man made stuff ( I know, I prefer au natural as well ) then it will benefit everyone.

And I mean it gets really busy, the car park on Sunday was frickin packed, and that's for an all day parking ticket costing nearly £7 !!

How easy/hard would it be to include this in a lap of the NFT? If its where I think it is then is it relatively easily accessed from the long fire-road drag on the western edge of the NFT? So come off the fire-road, do the DH and then climb back up the BW to rejoin the NFT at the top?

Drac, I agree, but there are now soooooo many people hammering the trails, if we can take a bit of pressure off the existing BWs and get some more riders onto man made stuff ( I know, I prefer au natural as well ) then it will benefit everyone

Can't argue with that.

How easy/hard would it be to include this in a lap of the NFT? If its where I think it is then is it relatively easily accessed from the long fire-road drag on the western edge of the NFT? So come off the fire-road, do the DH and then climb back up the BW to rejoin the NFT at the top?

Exactemundo Davey Boy

Cheers for that, looks good. Sorry for being thick - if you were to do the first climb on the NFT, then rather than going off to the left and doing the second bit of singletrack, carry on on the fire road going north - would that take you to the start of it?

GR of the start would be easier I expect.

grum - I think it would but if the start is where I think it is, it'd be a fair old slog along that fireroad.

The start is here

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=332830&y=494115&z=120&sv=332830,494115&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=776&ax=332830&ay=494115&lm=0

Why do all man made trail centres end up being clones of each other? There must be a reason right; I mean I like a nice ribbon of single track as much as the next guy, but i'd much rather ride something that has, you know, line choice!

I get completely the benefit of building man made to relieve pressure elsewhere, just not sure I understand why it always has to be the same ribbon of single track.

You don't like, then come and help build something better. You now have that golden opportunity.

If you build it, they will come.

Thanks for the map link.

I get completely the benefit of building man made to relieve pressure elsewhere, just not sure I understand why it always has to be the same ribbon of single track.

It looked like there were some line choices that maybe weren't finished yet? Think these trails were mostly volunteer built too so time/money will have been an issue. Seems a bit churlish to criticise TBH.

I will definitely try to get down for a dig day at some point. Work/illness keep getting in the way - barely ridden my bike either.

Looking good, great work from all involved.

I'm up in The Lakes in July for a weekend, will be dropping in at Grizedale for a ride either on the way up to or back from Keswick/Langdale.

That is a black run? why? looks more like a red/blue to me nothing overly challenging there.

Come and ride it before making a judgement from a video.

Looks a lot of fun, but why is that graded "black"? Even if it's got steeper bits that need good brake control, the jumps can be slowly rolled and it's not festooned with awkward features. "Red" surely?

Come and ride it before making a judgement from a video

EDIT: Yes fair enough. I'm not being judgemental, I'm just asking for some justification.

Not having a pop, but seem a vast difference between your video and the one below for Laggan

I'll stick to laggan black thanks

Guessing there's gonna be a couple of log rides at a coupla points there?
Either that or BT have been fly tipping telegraph poles at the trail side... Bastards!!!

See how much narrower and rough the trail profile is at Laggan, and all its little rock gardens you can't avoid? That long "Dibbles Chessboard" one near the bottom I might do the chicken walk 🙂 Laggan's black is black.

Sweet riding BTW.

not me riding 1st video I picked from you tube

I'll stick to laggan black thanks

A 5 hour drive from Grizedale to ride a 7 minute trail? And you're sure there won't be anything better inbetween?

Might head over this weekend and check it out, it's that, Dalby or the Peaks.

 

Having worked on the new trail I can tell you that one part is really hard to walk up (it's that steep)

looks awesome guys, cant wait to give that a go.

Cheers Tod, know exactly where you mean.

Well done, it looks like a fun trail. I havent helped dig (not particularly into mtb riding anymore) but some of my friends helped out so I guess I''ll end up going for a ride there over the summer at some point.

I think its ideal for grizedale, theres loads of technical stuff in the area if you want something trickier to do, but theres no jumps and no smooth flowing stuff - until now.

Infact, you could ride the trig point track if you wanted a technical section, that ends where this begins I guess?

I've seen blacker blue runs, looks boring as hell.

looks alot like the newish blue at Glentress by the freeride section, if it's half as much fun as that it'll be awesome.

looks boring as hell.

Theres lots of jumps there, since when have jumps ever been boring?

(although I guess if [i]you[/i] struggle with them then [i]you [/i] may find it boring)

There are lots of jumps at my local BMX track too, and it looks about as smooth.

Its supposed to be black, not blue.

Laggans more like it.

Its a bit pedestrian? Where is the gnar?

Looks fun, good work

I suspect the problem will be the FC as the only bit that looks like it might not be rollable are the drops at about 30 seconds in. At Gisburn hully gully is graded black but technically is mildly red but has to be graded black because of the consequences of a fall.

It's blacker than Thetford...

slainte 😆 rob

Bit tiring reading the few comments complaining about a new track that hasn't even officially opened yet.

I know a lot of work has gone into this trail for almost 12 months, and I never expected to see the like in Grizedale. Looking forward to giving it a whirl and big thanks to the volunteers.

Hoping this is just the beginning of new trail building in Grizedale and I hope to be along sometime to lend a hand.

If you look at what has been achieved at Gisburn in a relatively short time, if Grizedale gets anywhere near that level of new trail building to go alongside the existing network of bridleways it'll be awesome 😀

Top work guys. Looks like a really fun trail.

More green than black, but that's not such a bad thing. If you're building something with the help of volunteers, it's better to go for something that everyone can ride. It's hard to get folk motivated to help build if they think what they're building is beyond them.

Bit tiring reading the few comments complaining about a new track that hasn't even officially opened yet

Don't take it seriously - the trail looks fun.

Typical arrogant misplaced whining has started already I see. I had a little look earlier today, its still closed off so i couldnt ride it, but:

It's a completely different type of trail to Laggan. It's basically 'freeride' oriented so lots of jumps and a few drops, not really any technical rock features. Similar to the more jumpy bits at innerleithen. If you want techy rocks there's miles of it already in Grizedale so what would be the point of building something similar?

Those saying its too easy, I look forward to seeing videos of you nailing every drop/double/gap and the hip jump. Anyone could mince down most of it slowly, but that's not really the point.

I think it looks very well done and I look forward to having a go at it. Well done to those involved.

I have no problem with folk having an opinion, they're free to do so. But if you want to have an opinion that's actually worth a damn, then you're more than welcolme to come and help build the trails that you want to ride. As mentioned before, there will be a more DH based trail being built right next to this one. If you want more rocks in your trails, then please come along on a Sunday and help move rocks, along with digging drainage ditches, moving barrow loads of gravel uphill, removing tree stumps, shaping berms, building jumps and much more. These are not FC trails, they are volunteer built trails with permission from the FC, there is no money or labour being put into the pot, only that which the volunteers provide.

If you think you can build better, then get in contact with the shop, and you'll be more than welcome to come and help build something more "gnaar"

It's been noticed in the past that lots of folk are handy with a keyboard, but not much use with a shovel. Want to prove me wrong... ?

I was questioning the grading not the quality or who or how it was built. So who graded that trail?

Reading the FC grades [url= http://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/INFD-6MRMEU ]FC grading [/url] I still don't think that it's a black. Then again maybe I'm used to more " gnarrrr" than you up here in scotchland. 😉

Why worry about the trail grading. Just ride it for what it is and enjoy.

It's good to have somewhere in the area to improve jumping skills, although there is a notable shortage of rocky black graded gnaar sections in the Lake District 😉

Maybe rather than having people on the ground grading trails they should appoint a panel of Internet 'experts' to watch one head cam video and grade the trails that way?

I would personally have graded it 'orange bike park' - and it's much more hardcore than the orange bike park section at Laggan.

Reading the FC grades FC grading I still don't think that it's a black. Then again maybe I'm used to more " gnarrrr" than you up here in scotchland.

Yeah there's no rocky 'gnarr' at all in the lakes.

This forum is rapidly becoming parody of itself. Well done on the new trail all involved, I look forward to riding it soon as opposed to watching a vid on the Internet and saying it looks crap. #edit I'll be in touch regarding helping at a future dig day.

Rode it today for the first time.

The video really doesn't do it justice. Great fun, with sections on the vid you wouldn't notice until you actually ride it.

Quite techy at the top, I actually found the switchbacks through the tress the most difficult part, but all the drop-offs are a good height and you get a big whoosh factor halfway down with a steep descent into a big berm (similar feeling to hully gully at Gisburn)

A lot of downhillers around today on big bikes showing how it's done, but it's perfectly ridable on most bikes. I just have to improve my lack of jumping skills!

Mix it in with the bridleways and you have a bit of everything 🙂

Anyone who thinks this is smooth and boring should step away from the keyboard and get there bikes up here and actually ride the trail. its loose, rooty, steep,and very jumpy. just what grizedale needed. All the riders i spoke to today were really enjoying it. Good mix of riders too, from downhill lads on big bikes to xc lycra blokes on hardtails. Good job done to all involved building the trail. Took the camera up, so pics to follow.

Here you go. Come and have a go if you think your good enough!

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I think that looks ace. Like a big bendy-twisty thing. Great that people actually turn up to dig and can get permission to do that sort of thing. If any trail is too easy for you then you're going too slow 🙂

It does look ace, the people who volunteered should be very proud.

Its very easy to watch a video of a trail and make bold statements about what it is / isn't like to ride, the rider in the video rides DH to national standard and makes it [i][u]look[/i][/u] easy...........
Fell free to post up your own video showing your skills off on this 'Blue' trail.

I thnik the problem here is helmet cams. They dont do any trails the justice they need and quite frankly unless you're a pro they are pretty boring.

The stills look way better, looks like a fun trail. Much rather watch a vid with someone stood beside the trail gives a much better sense of speed and gradient. Much more difficult to put together I know.

That looks bloody ace!

Good photos Sam. The 4th one down makes it look as steep as it is.

I am only speaking on behalf of the main dude who got the ball rolling on this trail, and who really deserves the credit. He had a few choice words to say about some folk on here. Well, I say words, it was just one word. Can you guess what it was ?

It took exactly one year to dig this trail, and the good news is this section is only the bottom bit of the trail. The idea is to start at the fire road where this section begins, and head upwards all the way to Carron Crag. The idea is to make the top bit [b]MUCH[/b] more technical with lots more rocky bits. Then it will [i]really[/i] test your skills.

I only joined this project right at the end, as I didn't know about it before hand, but I'm really looking forward to getting stuck into the next bit. I have to say, it really gives you a sense of pride helping to create a new trail. I keep on spotting bits I did. 8)

Hope to meet some of you there on the next dig day.

I figured you could drop onto this new section from Carron Crag.... 😳

Looks mint! Big thanks to the trail builders, you'll never please everyone, I know that too well.

OK keyboard warriors, I rode this for this last week and to echo a few of the comments above, its a lot steeper than the video suggests. Only had one blind run down it late on Thursday afternoon but it was a fun addition to Grizedale. Rode past it a couple of times during the week and was always someone dressed up like a stormtrooper on it so its obviously getting a fair bit of use. Nice tight twisty bit in the woods at the top with some jumps and a nice big launch halfway down over a blind crest. A few goes sessioning it and it'd be great.

Black or not? Easily on a par with any black trail centre stuff I've ridden.

Best news for me though was that there seems to be some work going on with some of the NFT trail. I know its not the greatest trail in the world but for a turn-your-brain-off 1 hour blast around its not too bad if you're in the area...

Good things going on at Grizedale. Shame about the ****ers on the enduro bikes hammering down the BW just to the north of the exit of the new DH track. Didn't get number plates but passed the same group during the morning whilst walking... they were coming through one of the villages between Grizedale and Ulverston area.

Rode the black for the first time today. And its great fun. Cant wait to go back and have another go. Could have easily spent the whole day just playing on this one trail.

Rode it today when we linked it up with the other bridalways in the Forrest. Very impressed with it. At the top where it splits in two is good ( nice tight switchbacks) Then it opens up to some nice little tabletops, doubles and berms. All are rollable of you want to or you can get some air if that's your thing. May need a bit more Bedding down but I would think the more bikes go on it, the better it will get. All in all hats off to the ( volunteer ) trail builders.