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[Closed] Using a standard fork on a G2 geometry bike

 nbt
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So, the G2 geometry fox fork on my Gary Fisher Roscoe is in need of some looking at - the inevitable stanchion wear has finally appeared, although given that I've done precisely ZERO maintenance of the fork since the day I bought it (25 August 09, so just a few days short of four years ago!), it's had a good run.

The two main options are to get the fork serviced and have a new CSU fitted, or to get new forks. I reckon the cost will be about even either way, but there's no guarantee that new forks will have the G2 geometry - or at least that new forks at the price I'm prepared to pay will have it.

From what I can see, the main difference is the fork offset - 51mm for g2 forks, and 46 for "regular" fox forks. Is that right? I understand that the shorter the offset, the slower the steering is, at least for a given head angle and fork length. Will that 5mm make a huge difference? If I go for taller forks (e.g. marzocchi tend to be taller axle-to-crown than other forks for a given travel), will I need an even bigger offset?

Or does anyone know of a good source of either cheap G2 forks, or cheap Fox CSUs?

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Posted : 20/08/2013 7:32 pm
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fork offset can be really quite noticeable, you are correct in that a normal offset in a G2 frame will slow the steering down, make the bike a bit more reticent to turn into corners. Having played with all sorts of offset and CSU combos (including making franken-forks) a shorter offset in a frame meant for G2 can also make the bike a wee bit more prone to tuck under on tight corners.

worth checking the fox data as well from memory i thought they were 40-44mm? dependant on model in the 26" wheel size (may well be wrong on this, been a while since i looked)


 
Posted : 20/08/2013 7:39 pm
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GOod point there,. this is indeed for 26" wheels. I just looked at the fox forks website and found little to no actual data on the offset - the figures above have been gleaned from various forum threads found through google


 
Posted : 20/08/2013 7:41 pm
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One other thing to check is that Fox used have a lot of the offset in the lowers rather than all in the CSU like rockshox so you may get away with a "normal" type CSU rather than trying to track down a replacement G2 upper


 
Posted : 20/08/2013 7:47 pm
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oh my word, it never occurred to me that the offset might be in the crown, I had simply assumed it would be at the dropout. Bugger.


 
Posted : 20/08/2013 8:16 pm
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I think its all done at the crown,Lowers are all the same


 
Posted : 20/08/2013 8:19 pm
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Confirmed. The offset is purely in the crown. They are the same fork as any other from the crown down. Ive seen a few G2 offset forks for sale on various websites - id take a look at that first.


 
Posted : 20/08/2013 8:30 pm
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Apparently G2 aftermarket forks are now available from fox and rockshox


 
Posted : 20/08/2013 8:38 pm
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Pretty sure 26 are 38mm standard and 44mm G2, 29 are 44 standard and 51 G2, though my early 29er Rebas had 38mm offset.


 
Posted : 20/08/2013 8:39 pm
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Confirmed. The offset is purely in the crown.

maybe in the new forks, in the older 29er versions it was a mix of CSU and lower. Not that I've got both versions or anything from building many variations of freak fork ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 20/08/2013 8:39 pm