That DONT cost the earth. Any recommendations?
I wouldn't touch Marzocchi's, even if I was a pro team rider.
I'd love a set of Fox 36 floats (open bath) but they are quite old now.
Fox 32 Floats are quite flexy with the 15QR?
Sektor Coil.
Old Z1's from Italy
Oh wait, you have already decided against the ones that will last a lifetime over disposable fox's
Sektor Air
Deja vu? 😉
Which one has controlled damping? I must admit I'm pissed off with Windwave. The TST cart failed within one month from new. So with the replaced one (I admit) I shimmed stacked it. Its failed again. They don't repair, only replace. Now- a shim stack doesn't kill forks. I was honest that they'd been modded and I'd pay but throwing £180 at 55's? Not a chance.
rare though aren't they now?Oh wait, you have already decided against the ones that will last a lifetime over disposable fox's
No, changed my mind Kona P2's, Hora you are a liability with bouncy forks 😉
or
the sektors and I'll seal them shut so you can't get in them 😀
Lets look at a familiar chain of events, shall we?
1) Buy product, which works perfectly, and nobody else ever has any issues with
2) Decide to 'modify', 'service', 'adjust' or 'fix' said fully functioning product.
3) Swear profusely at now broken product
4) Make yet another warranty claim
5) Return to 1) and repeat....
Now, have we learnt anything today children?
1) Buy product, which works perfectly, and nobody else ever has any issues with
Everyone has issues with Marzocchi ATA and TST2's. They are design-flawed and pony.
After they'd already broken once within weeks of riding.2) Decide to 'modify', 'service', 'adjust' or 'fix' said fully functioning product.
at least he has a beautiful penis
Every cloud eh yossarian? 😆
I can show you it tonight Binners 😉
where do Fox 36 Vans sit in this debate? (R, not RC2?)
too old? not good enough? overkill?
did I see a post saying hora was considering fitting a shim stack to his prostate as he didn't like the OEM design?
How about a pair of Orange aniversary Z1's, ohh wait I already sold you those (and regretted it ever since) 😛
tmb467 they are good forks. The thing is as time progresses they people sell them when they need a service/wear and tear etc etc. I'd love 36's - coil or float.
I've been down the secondhand fork route before and its hit and miss. You can get honestly describe or pups that shine up.
I'm just about to put a set of little used Sektor Coil forks on fleabay.
150mm with u-turn travel adjust. EDIT 15mm Maxle lite.
email in profile. I've sold a few bits on here, and I can point you to my ebay account for a bit of re-assurance. I'm near Derby and get to the Peaks from time to time if that's any use.
And can provide you with my works email (Govt Dept).
Looks like I'm in for a treat this evening 😀
Pace RC31's
Light as .....
and ultra low maintenance.
Do they still do stems with some damping in them?
Got the Sektor U turns (as above) on my Turner, ran for two years, two services and not broke yet.
cheers hora
I've just bought some X-Fusion Velvet RLs for £350... good reviews, but not sure about reliability yet, but internals are metal as opposed to the plastic they put in Rock Shox (according to a learned friend) so 'should' fare better.
They're replacing a set of Rock Shox Revelations that you sold me a few years ago. they have served me very well but need a service and new seals as they leak from the compression damper - they're going on another bike.
Mary Hinge YGM (in profile).
X fusion can't recommend them enough.
Buddy's ride the velvets and I've been riding some vengences love em.
I've got 2009 36 Float RC2's and 2010 Marzocchi 55 RC3 Ti's which have been very reliable. I bought them both cheap due to the 1.5" steerer... love a bargain me. Of the two the Marz is the better feeling fork and at only 250g more than the Float it's the one I prefer.
I paid less then this person is looking for now.
http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1262947/
I can see these becoming a classic.
I do fancy trying the upgrade to Avalanche Racing internals though.
I saw them. Back in 2010 they were selling at £450!
Mark yhm
Fox float 36
Great stiffness - Great Damping - great reliability
But youd have to go secong hand to stay in your price range - I did this and was fine.
Id think twice about fox 32's in hindsight- Mine suffer from stanchion wear and need regular servicing. I think they allow dirt past the seals when they flex (which is often and alot) and there's not enough oil in em to adaquately lube the sponges.
Fox 34s are probably good too but not tried
Actually thats probably a good descriptor for why the wear occurs more on the 32's.Id think twice about fox 32's in hindsight- Mine suffer from stanchion wear and need regular servicing. I think they allow dirt past the seals when they flex (which is often and alot) and there's not enough oil in em to adaquately lube the sponges.
I ran 36 floats for almost two years in the Peaks- all I ever did was oil on stanchions/cycle forks and wipe after a few rides. Lovely forks and no flex.
hora - Member
Mary Hinge YGM (in profile).
Replied with photos. Meant to say 1 1/8 steerer, 225mm long.
I've been offered new Fox 36 Van R's by my LBS for 500...should I?
(Never had a prob with Fox. My first forks in 2001 were the brand new to market Fox 125 vanillas 😀 )
Van R for £500? No. Pretty basic, too expensive.
If you want a bruiser fork, sprung lyriks, otherwise sprung Sektors (and throw in some better damping kit if you want). TBH Revelations are also highly reliable.
And yes, long travel 32 floats are pretty damn flexy, always seems like an XC fork stretched too far.
On the merlin email waiting list for coil sektor rl's..
Fwiw my rebas have been Damn near bullet proof.
Impressive given my 120kgs (20+ stone).
My coil Lyriks, used but sub £300. Details of my ad in my posting history...
Ygm
There's not a lot to go wrong inside a set of coil Sektors, surely...is there ?
Dont be surprised if you have to get a firmer spring for the sektors.
How about [url= http://www.hibike.de/shop/product/pb850fd1a710262d85d41ac309db1eab4/s/Magura-Thor-150-Lift-Select-Federgabel-disc-only-110-150mm-15mm-Steckachse.html ]these?[/url]Good quality, stiff even with a 15mm QR, lots of low speed damping & in your budget?
Loco at a later date... how much to upgrade the sektor coil rl?
Buy those coil lyrics from ST, i have some they are stiff, bombproof and work amazing.
decided against financing some? new forks the Hora?
I'd finance new Fox36's but not at 7-800. No fork is worth that much.
If Merlins comeback in its 270 new!
Posted on ST's thread. Although in 2009/10 Lyriks were c400 new. I know I bought the same. The Sektors present a better benchmark IMO though.
Coil Sketors with a stiffer spring. Love mine. Great value for money.
yep, bloody silly prices. It did hurt handing over £800 for some forks.
Why do I get the feeling this will end with you buying a Marzocchi?
No. Mazz are rare now. I imagine they'll leave the UK due to dwindling sales volume
I'm 13 stone and the sektors (2011s) were way too soft so reckon you'd have to swap the spring from the off. I ended up selling mine after only a few hours use. Don't know how much a firmer spring would cost?
[url= http://www.evanscycles.com/products/rockshox/2012-sid-xx-fork-ec030215#features ]These have got to be worth the extra £50 over budget[/url]
OR
Try Merlin
I wouldn't touch Marzocchi's, even if I was a pro team rider.
i despair 😕
i am the opposite i wunt touch Fox
Ive never ever experienced fox warranty.
Ive owned van125s, brown talas 36 and 36 floats.
RC3's are great? Yeah until they spring a leak etc. Windwave REPLACE not repair carts. I wonder how much a rc3 cart is?
Dales rider Im a 100kg teddy bear!
I'd definitely go with Sektors, brilliant forks for the money. If you can find them though I would get Revalations as they are truly a fantastic fork capable of anything from XC to slightly less than suicidal! If you hunt around you can find a bargain. I have just last week purchased some 2012 Revelations RLT from Merlin Cycles for £306. They are up at £339.95 but when you add them to the basket you save another £33.99...result 😀
Just checked, they are running out fast!!
Yeah. I bought a pair too. New bike coming up.... 🙂
Ta but it has to be 20mm
i would suggest revelations would be a bit noodly under a 100kg rider. I'm 70kg and they are noticeably twangy on my HT. Not surprising given how stupid light they are.
Are your Bombers from the bad years? I wouldn't part with my '10RC3Tis...
2011 is post bad years.
Once you've had a ride on my 160 TALAS Kashima RLC FITs tomorrow, you'll be talking to your Bank Manager 😀
Mazz lost it 4 to 5 years ago, I bought some of these
Yeh, they had one bad year, 2008. They got their s__t together again pretty quickly though. My 2009 66s have been bombproof and my 2012 888s are awesome. Most people also think the (post 2008/9) 55s and 44s are ace as well.
If I was in the market for a new fork, it would be Marzocchi every time.
i would suggest revelations would be a bit noodly under a 100kg rider.
Whilst I know for a fact that they are not. 🙂
hora - MemberDales rider Im a 100kg teddy bear!
Marginally heavier than me, having had Fox, Magura, and Mazzies I went back to Rock Shox after a 18 year gap. Now running Sid RLTs and Rev XX X-locs, cant fault them.
Ianv I too once said that. Popo' **** ****. How much are they...eek. Mind you if they blow me away. Why not 8)
@hora Rockshox have stopped with the 20mm axles now but to be honest I can't feel a great load load of difference. Still think they are a good fork.
@peterpoddy what new bike are you putting them on?
Why???? Save grams?
yossarian - Member
at least he has a beautiful penis
Is it springy with controlled damping? Oh and IS or post mount?
Buy zochi's. Run them as your only forks then CRY.
Be my guest.
hora, not sure why they've done it. Maybe its to save weight but the difference between the two must be very minimal...perhaps its just to keep potential buyers interested and thinking they need 15mm then in a few years they'll tell us all we need 20mm again.
If you have 20mm hubs on your wheels you can buy adapters from Hope to run 15mm axle if its an issue
hora - MemberWhy???? Save grams?
OEM demands mainly- QR15 won the standard war even though it's pointless, so manufacturers wanted 15mm across their ranges. RS put out a brilliant statement along the lines of - "Here's our 15mm maxle. It's a pointless thing, 20mm is better and lighter, but everyone wants 15mm and at least this one's better than Fox. Don't blame us, blame Trek"
Got to say that the Revelation RLT's on our hire bikes have been fantastic. They have survived a year on post ride clean, squirt of Brunox and cycle to clean out the crud. Granted they see more dust than mud, but they have been the perfect hire bike fork.
On the flip side, one of our guides has had to service their Fox 32's after 1 month of riding (New seals etc) as they dried up. Granted, 1 month of guiding is a bit more that the recommended service interval. But they were just serviced and fresh from Mojo at the outset.
I want to spend time riding, not servicing forks, so happy with the Revelations, oh and the 55's on my enduro which are going great too.
What bike are they for?
I've a set of the older Uturn Revs and had a set of '12 RTLs Dual airs. Both on hardtails and older ones are a far better fork ime. Better feeling and noticeably stiffer. The RTLs were ok for general riding, but no amount of tweaking the + and - pressures made them behave properly when the going got rough. And they were twangy/flexy/noodly (i'm around 100kg also).
So for the money you're prepared to spend, you could get a reliable fork, but it might not be very good.
I run a set of Marzocchi Z3 coils from 2001. Service them now and again, never let me down. Did have some of the "infamous" forks, went back to Windwave, sorted but still didn't like so sold on.

