[Closed] Ultimate showdown - RAGLEY Vs ON-ONE - Who wins - You decide

Ragley Blue Pig - 'cos it was just the thing I was looking for

definitive answers on here? Can't wait!

considering that STW is populated by fickle marketing obsessed audi driving whores, the one that is currently in fashion will win regardless of how it rides. 😉

owned the following
2 x on one 29rs
1 x inbred
1 x 456
1 x summer season
1 x blue pig
1 x mmm bop

the 'that green' 456 was the best, and the one i would want back.

Dialled Bikes Alpine. There, sorted.

Had a Scandal, now have an Mmmbop. Horses for courses obviously, the Scandal was the better XC bike, the Mmmbop is the better for mucking about on, but I know which I prefer.

Though having said that my Mmmbop is going back under warranty as the left hand dropout plate thing is bent, but still ace.

+1 Ragley

so far then

Ragley 4 On-one 1

On-One for me. Ragley Piglet comes close though but I haven't ridden it yet.

You forgot me and coogan in your summary ... that'll be;

Ragley 4
Dialled Bikes 2
On One 1

i get 2 n half votes tho......... 😉

Hairychested - Member
On-One for me. Ragley Piglet comes close though but I haven't ridden it yet.

Dialled Bikes Alpine.

Sort of like an Evil Sovereign, but not as good...

Having said that, I'd really like a go on a 456 or similar to see how it compares to some of the offensively expensive alternatives.

That's my extremely constructive input.

What On One though?

I'm really loving the mmmbop at the moment, but the thought of a Ti DB Alpine......

Suppose i am thinking 456 Vs blue pig/mmmbop

just casting about for a bit of objectivity: but as Ragley are newer, surely 90% of owners who have owned both will have had an on one & now have a Ragley. (law of averages)
& they wouldn't very well say they'd swapped out a good ride for a wrong'un would they?

ton would 😉

Both Shite.

Have a Blue Pig and an 853 On One. Had a 456.

Can I vote for On Ones before Brant left in a STW forum fashion? lol 😆

Ragley 4
Dialled Bikes 2
On One 1

yes but one of those was comparing a xc race frame to a all mountain hardtail so that doesn't count.

i deffo have swapped a good un for a shyte un.

Both Shite.

yep they only have one top tube, rather than having to be fitted with a biffer brace 😆

🙂

I believe Ragley are flavour of the month 😉 but isn't this really just checking the progress of one bike designer.

I'm going for ragley, simply because their bikes have cooler names. Must factor this kind of thing in when buying a bike.

I'd rather own a 'blue pig' than a '456' anyday.

I have a 456 and love it, and prefer the look of the 456 over the mmmbop. Also excited about waiting for the new On-One Ti 29" geared hopefully due around April 2011.

So do I get 2 votes for having a 456 and waiting/wanting a on-one ti 29er...

But I have never ridden a Ragley but I can imagine them riding about the same as the 456.

Ragley, costs more and you have to put the stickers on yourself. What's that all about? Apart from that it's newer and more fashionable so it must be better.

mmmbops are ace. Fact. (still enjoy my rigid DN6 inbred though)

my pig is ace, it's very good on difficult steep stuff.

my inbred is ace, it's very good on faster easier flatter stuff.

bikes are ace.

(the 456 is more or less basically an extra chunky inbred, if you want to ride flatter easier stuff quickly, get an inbred - you don't need the extra chunk of the 456. if you want to ride difficult steep stuff, get a pig - it's just a bit better than the 456 if you want something chunky, imho)

They're both budget Wannabe's

have owned-

inbred (sold)
steel 456 (kept)
ti 456 (kept)
scandal (sold)
scandal 29er (kept)
blue pig (sold)

my vote goes to on one. 456 beats the pig by a country mile.

I'm guessing your budget doesn't give you enough for a chameleon then.

well my budget managed to stretch to a ti 456 didn't it?

Heckler

BFe.

I have owned a 456, I currently own an apline and mmmbop, but like them all in different ways. Picking a favourite I would have to go with the alpine as it has taken me to the most places and given me the most memories, however... the mmmbop is still very new.

Sod it, the winner is a ti alpine in 18"

Its threads like this that make me sad that I own an On One but relieved I don't have a Ragley.

The answer obviously is whichever one is considered niche at the moment, and you can photograph with about half a metre of seat tube sticking out the top of it.

Sod it, the winner is a ti alpine in 18

+1

Seeing as I have only ridden one of them, and seeing as I would break down into pathetic mewing sobs if anyone suggested that my bike was anything less than the greatest, coolest ride ever, I feel I am perfectly qualified to answer this question.

😉

Anyone interested in a titanium Alpine should contact Mark (the manager) at The Bike Chain in Edinburgh as he is trying to make something happen on that front. Nothing concrete at present so please don't e-mail me about it as I won't be getting involved until Mark has at least 15-20 firm commitments.

NS bikes 'Surge'. Pretty much the same thing as a 456, but more fun

i would love a blue pig or mm bop in a 29r flavour.............. 😉
i am sure i had a conversation with mr richards about this..........or i may have dreamed it. 😆

Ti 456 (Brant Design) is my best ever hard tail. Perfect bike for Surrey Hills, also did the SDW in one ( very slow) attempt, so could this be the most versatile bike? I say YES 😛

Never tried the Ragley shed stuff though.

neither count as they have 26" wheels and we all know how rubbish they are 😉

I haven't ridden either. So going on graphics and paint, I choose Ragley.
Mainly because of that 'refreshers' model.

Have had various on ones, currently ti456 and a steel inbred,test rode a ragely ti and I wouldn't
swap the ti456 for one! my vote goes to on one.

is this the "how far up brant's arse can I get" thread?

is this the "how far up brant's arse can I get" thread?

no it is a 'which is the best cheap vfm bike brand' thread

no it is a 'which is the best cheap vfm bike brand' thread

that's Genesis.

loved my pompino so on one it is

no it is a 'which is the best cheap vfm bike brand' thread

that's Genesis.

+1 🙂

The Ragley TD-1 I borrowed for Hit The North and Kielder100 was way better than the Inbred I've had for 5 years or so. But that's not really a fair comparison 🙂

Brant designed the 456 6 years ago. Is it likely that he's got worse at designing frames in the last six years? 😉

no it is a 'which is the best cheap vfm bike brand' thread
that's Genesis.

+2

i don't own a gensesis. it's just a non fanboy observation of their range of different bikes, dealer network and pricing.
i did ride an alfine IO once, which was nice 🙂

I thought Genesis VFM had taken a plunge over the last year or so, but that's just based on hearsay and not bothering to look. I suppose most brands have really.

+2 for the ti alpine

Prince Albert 😆

Well i had/have (still in box, just in case!) a 456 summer season that was ace but a chore needed to be slightly steeper imo, should of got a standard but the ss was v cheap, so decided to get a standard 456 when the Mmmbop came upat silly price, or should i say cheaper then the 456 so took a punt and tbh thats ace as well, is it better, not sure yet but definately hitting stuff faster, and not always by choice it just seems to be more eager/rides faster, buts that just imo all that steel is real stuff, cant say i noticed that either...anyway enough rambling both are ace, but tbh i wouldnt of got the Mmmbop at rrp as i dont feel it is that much better 😮

I have a TI456 and I wouldn't swap it for anything else in this class unless it was another Lynskey!

Rode 456 Ti and Ragley Ti back to back and much preferred the 456.

This may just be because it was most similar to my existing bike, whereas the ragley required a bigger change in riding style? who knows.

Having first owned a Summer Season I switched all the parts to an Mmmbop about 2 months ago. The only thing I can add is that my Pikes always felt like they underperformed. I never rated them at all, but switching them to the Mmmbop has made a huge difference to the same forks. I can only presume that the slightly different (seat tube) geometry is getting more out of the fork.

Far eastern built "British Brand" you say?

What's wrong with DMR or Dialed?

Ridden both flavours and just prefer the Ragley Ti.
Lovely frame that just goes up mountain and down dale with minimum fuss.
"Point and Squirt" is how I would describe it.

Brant designed the 456 6 years ago. Is it likely that he's got worse at designing frames in the last six years?

If he was at the top of his game 6 years ago probably 😉

aint had em all so **** knows..

seems like Ton's the man as hes had the lot!!

got a blue pig and an inbred ss,both good,do the job in their own way.

get riding.

thread closed.

Never ridden any of them, but I did see a 456 once from a distance. I am therefore qualified to state that Ragley are WAY better than one on, probably. Or was it the other way round...

What On One though?

I'm really loving the mmmbop at the moment, but the thought of a Ti DB Alpine......

ssshhhh 😉

BFe.

On-One Ti cyclo cross.