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Just cancelled - no idea how I'm going to watch sportscar racing now! Bar-stewards!
I notice Chris Ball hasn't poked his head up yet with some more management bull shi7 waffle.......
Can't see this being any good for the already dwindling Enduro series which had a pretty crap highlights package as it was.
Does anybody know the rules for devices on a Discovery/TNT account.
Is it similar to Netflix, where they will track and disable accounts if not on the same wifi?
With my Eurosport account I have had multiple people using it at once before, and never had an issue.
Purely thinking that 1 account for 3 or 4 people would negate the price change... If you can actually watch all at the same time..
Hmm, I'm on Virgin media and have always had to pay for extra channels to include Eurosport in the package. Except for rugby and a wee bit of skiing, cycling is the only sport I'm interested in watching on the telly. I love the coverage of the spring classics and tours, absolutely love it and would be lost without them.
It looks like my VM bill would be jumping by £18 a month to keep Eurosport / TNT, but I wonder how much of that will be written off when I drop to their basic telly package as I'll no longer be paying for a 'premium' TV package just to include Eurosport?
I've got multiple devices using my Discovery+ app. Granted, they are all actually mine, but it certainly doesnt have the same inbuilt controls as something like Now TV (which is very tightly locked down).
Oh and you can get Discovery+ through a wb browser too, which is brilliant.
Crazy increase that I wouldn't pay just for the cycling, that I love watching. I actually pay for TNT through my Sky package to watch the rugby union but I can't work out if this means I'll still get Discovery+ or not. They're not making it easy!
So since Eurosport will still be available in Europe would it be possible to use a VPN to connect and subscribe as though you are in Europe?
@fathomer as per above, your old Discovery+ 'Standard' with your sky package(valued at £6.99) has now been downgraded to Discovery+ 'Basic' (valued at £.99 but basically worthless as it doesn't include any sport.
(effective 28 Feb.)
https://support.discoveryplus.com/gb/Answer/Detail/000004067#changes
Oh and point of note to everyone.... This is not a rolling change they are making, they are going in hard... From the abovr site, if you have paid for an annual subscription (which you could have done as recently as yesterday) then...
Yearly plan: Your subscription will end on 28 February 2025 and you’ll no longer have access to discovery+. You’ll receive a refund from us for any time remaining on your subscription
Theres none of this let it run, and make your mind up later! Your either in, or out!
I think i'm just going to risk it with a few mates and try and spread the cost over 4 people...
May or may not work, but it can be cancelled very easily if they kick up a fuss
Just had a look and I can get TNT sports as a "free" bolt-on from EE, so I'll be using that come the summer, as long as the goalposts haven't moved again.
I’d not trust those prices at all
Well I've paid it, activated it and tested it.
I did it through BT and then discovery+ app and tested it fine.
How long for, is a whole different question
We used to get netflix for free, Spotify for free too, the world changes and moves on. You can either pay or not.
This way I can also watch Liverpool tomorrow and the Allula race, I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's not a complete disaster
I don't think anyone should be particularly surprised at this. If you listen to Chris Ball, Loic Bruni, and anyone associated with WB they have been pretty consistent in saying that their target audience is people who are looking for something to watch between Moto GP and the Football. Basically, they are interested in people who are too gormless to pick up the remote.
They have zero interest in people who have hobbies (like, you know, riding bikes). Their target audience likes sitting on the couch drinking beer and placing bets during the games.
For these kind of people, £30 is fine. For those of us who are actually interested in sport, we don't have the time or the money.
so does this mean the mtb downhill this year is no longer available for £6.99/month?, bugger.....not paying for other sports as I don't watch anything other than the downhill.
@somafunk correct - they'll happily releive you of £30.99 to watch it though.....
Just explained to my Daughter that we won't be watching this year.
£31 is 3/4 of of a race entry fee - we can either watch or race.....
^ , Jesus Christ, **** them.......money grabbing bastards.
He’s otherwise engaged
The really sad thing is, I very much doubt Chris Ball himself has the savvy to make any decent money out of this. I get the impression he's just along for the ride as much as the rest of us but has signed a contract that means he has to be the face of this shitshow.
It's still £20 via BT ???
Why would you sponsor a team if the coverage is to fewer people who may buy your product? Or do they tell sponsors the raw numbers and convince them the football crowd will buy a V10? If I ran a team I would be raging as much as the fans.
Or do they tell sponsors the raw numbers and convince them the football crowd will buy a V10?
Exactly that, they've now got cycling roadies, CX, crickets, rugby, football etc fans all lumped into their 'potential' viewing figures
Just cancelled my subscription. On the way out, they try and tempt you with a 50% off TNT for 7 months offer, conveniently just about covering the dates of Le Tour de France, but nah … I can live without.
Just had a look and I can get TNT sports as a “free” bolt-on from EE, so I’ll be using that come the summer, as long as the goalposts haven’t moved again.
It’s still £20 via BT ???
These changes only come in on the 28th Feb.
The prices and content being shown on Sky, BT, EE etc are all currently, technically, correct. But they wont be, from that date... (as explained in the link above)
I had already rolled off my Discovery+ subscription at the end of the road season, and was in two minds whether to resubscribe for the spring classics or wait for the grand tours. I guess I'll be dusting off my French and watching whatever I watch of the Tour on france.tv via a VPN instead.
The prices and content being shown on Sky, BT, EE etc are all currently, technically, correct. But they wont be, from that date… (as explained in the link above)
I'll see what it does then at the time.
Right on the first point. Probably not the second. It’s one trip to train/race at the velodrome for comparison. In general the cycling fraternity is routinely assessed as relatively affluent.
It's less than the price of a new tyre every month, but when was the last time you heard a mountain biker say, 'Isn't it crazy how cheap tyres are?'
Dropping £30 a month on something you've been getting for free for 15 years is never going to fly with people who actually ride bikes. There's a kind of affluence where you have disposable income (the kind who are likely to pay £30 a month because what else are they going to spend it on) and there's the kind of affluence where you would have lots of disposable income if you didn't have bits you needed to buy.
Judging by the comments here and on PB, if anyone is watching DH next year they won't be the kind of people who are in the market for a new Santa Cruz anytime soon.
I'm out too and subscription cancelled. I suppose I'll have more time to ride my bike now...
Why would you sponsor a team if the coverage is to fewer people who may buy your product? Or do they tell sponsors the raw numbers and convince them the football crowd will buy a V10? If I ran a team I would be raging as much as the fans.
Not justifying the costs, but this is how you attract outside industry sponsors which mtb badly needs. How many football teams are sponsored by ball or equipment sponsors? F1 teams aren’t selling F1cars. Selling bikes doesn’t cover costs. Covering riders in logos will. Look at snooker, every player looks like this site does when you’re not logged in. Bigger audience, cycling fans or not leads to bigger exposure.
All that said, I’m as gutted as the rest that my Sky subscription won’t cover any cycling anymore.
I will be cancelling after the cyclocross world champs this weekend.
Iptv is thé answer........
Feels like they think everyone wants to watch football so it won’t be a problem ! I myself not keen on football but watch CX XC and Downhill! And the classics!
Don’t think I can pay £31 even though I would watch a bit of club rugby! I still miss the GCN app?
Well that is me cancelled too. It is simply not worth £31 a month to me. I have zero interest in you tube coverage. A VPN and European Eurosport account looks like my best option. It will certainly help my French. Slow hand clap for the UCI and ASO for this mess.
Bigger audience, cycling fans or not leads to bigger exposure.
Didnt the premium package already include the cheaper tier anyway?
Well I’ve paid it, activated it and tested it.
I did it through BT and then discovery+ app and tested it fine.
How long for, is a whole different question
Nothing has changed yet. See what happens on 28th Feb when the changes take effect.
I'm curious to know how many people willing to pay £31 a month will be switching on to cycling.
Referring to that Cycling News article, Orls says
‘We want investment in the sport. We might want it free-to-air but without investment where does the sport go? Besides, if you’re a cycling fan, I think you want to see it alongside football and rugby and the big sports in this country. That’s where cycling belongs.’
That doesn't equate to "I want to watch football and rugby alongside cycling". This has nothing to do with making cycling more accessible or attractive to newcomers. Those who already pay for full TNT+ can access cycling if they want to. Do they want to? If so, they already do. If not, why will this change make any difference?
It's just about fleecing the customer.
I will be cancelling after the cyclocross world champs this weekend.
I'll wait until the end of the CX season.
I suppose the question is more about why the teams remain in it. You obviously don’t sell F1 cars, but surely bike companies are in it for development and brand exposure. Without product development there is zero point in the current industry teams being there if the bike buying fans are priced out.
Unless of course they make money running a team. which let’s face it they wont!
I cancelled before coming on here to find the moaning thread
I may pay to watch the the grand tours….
How is this going to encourage kids in to the sport when they won't be able to watch the Vali's, Loic's and others.....
munkyboy
Why would you sponsor a team if the coverage is to fewer people who may buy your product? Or do they tell sponsors the raw numbers and convince them the football crowd will buy a V10? If I ran a team I would be raging as much as the fans.
Exactly this. The entirety of off road cycle racing is currently bankrolled by cycle manufacturers, action cams and a couple of young people focused soft drinks companies. Are they going to be happy that their target market has just been priced out of watching and and ****ed off? I know this was the concept WB sold but I can't help they're moving too fast to make any of this work.
Te sooner that WB and with a bit of luck the UCI do one the better.
How is this going to encourage kids in to the sport when they won’t be able to watch the Vali’s, Loic’s and others…..
How many kids are watching their football idols on Sky versus how many are watching them on dodgy fire sticks or just on Insta and tick tock?