[Closed] Tubs- teach me

Here's a great link: http://sprinterdellacasa.blogspot.co.uk/2009/04/how-to-glue-tubular.html

Don't be scared of glueing it's just common sense and not difficult or messy if you work steadily (with a cup of tea)

You won't be faster on tubs but you might prefer the ride. In recent years I've given up saving them for race day, I train on them about 75% of the time, because they feel so much nicer. Whether that's worth buying into, I don't know. Maintenance wise, they're about the same - fewer punctures ime but more faff to fit new ones. . I use glue, I can change a flat in a couple of minutes at the roadside (if the goop doesn't work).

TT world championship won on clinchers last year iirc.

I use tubs everyday , Contis Giro .
I use tape , front and rear in the summer but use glue for the rear in the winter . dont know why but when road gets wet , the rear tubs seems to be coming undone with tape . planet X are the cheapest for tape ( jantex ) .

I like the Giro , as you can undo the valve to put some latex in the tub . and then i use superglue to repair the outer casing . doesnt fix all the punctures but ok for most of them .

Tufo tape.

^ is worlds ahead of the old jantex stuff just cost a little more but not that much more

But with road tubless is there any need for tubs
At least for all us with out a pro level of fittness

Not sure if there's a perceptible difference in ride quality between tubs and tubeless but I'm not about to buy new wheels to find out. So yes there is a need for tubs. Maybe when I'm the last rider in the chain gang on tubs I'll rethink, more of an incentive when you have to carry all your own spares!

I very much prefer glue.
When you remove a tub, be it at home or on the roadside you may not even need to top it up if the spare is glued. I suppose the ideal is to have a used and glued (but not too much, old glue will do) tub as the spare. It goes on easily. I always had a few that would do this job.
Never managed to remove a taped tub with out half staying on the rim and half on the tub which means you start again.
I am not sure that road tubeless has quite caught up. You have a small choice of tyres and the variation in pressures that you can choose it not as great as far as I know.
It was only being the last of my mates with tubs that took me to clinchers about 3 years ago having bought my first sprint wheels in 1980.
I still worry about a blow out with clinchers at speed, Had 1, luckily a rear and admittedly on a 19mm 650c rear, and that was bad enough. Tubs don't come off the rim like that did.
I know little about which tubs cope with gunge to fix a hole. Tell me more.

Never tried tape, glue has always been fine for me.

Gunge (I use pit stop) seems to work about 50% of the time. If on a training run I'd try it first before swapping the tub if it doesn't seal.

If it seals I'll use that tub til it's worn out because I've got stuck (literally) a couple of times when I've used a gunged tub as a spare. The inner tube sticks together inside, and you can't get sufficient pressure with a mini pump to break the bond. A good thrust of a track pump might do it (or co2 maybe) but it's time to phone for a lift home otherwise.

Latex inner tubes and 25c clinchers will give 4/5 the ride for 1/5 the pfaff. And I have both, and have even commuted on Tufo tubs. An ironman is not the place to learn to change a flat tub.

2 layers of glue max. Many websites say 3 layers applied over 3 days but this creates such a thick and lumpy layer which creates a big risk of the tyre slipping on the rim. Sadly I found this out to my own cost with the valve stem ripping off the tyre!

Tufo s33 have been great value for money too. Haven't tried others.

I punctured three times in Ironman wales last year. Fortunately, I was on clinchers and could patch the inner tubes for punctures two and three. I finished whilst others on tubs didn't because they could only repair one puncture or perhaps two using foam and then a replacement tub. I now use folding Gatorskins for Ironman.