[Closed] Tubes who still use them then?

I'll always use tubes.

I do and so does the SO, but looks like we're the last ones.

What makes you think that?

I've got some in my road bike

Brainwashing from the bike mags and tubeless tyre companies?

i still use tubes, I think about Tubeless, but can't be arsed with the mess.

Take tube insert, inflate and away you go, tubeless, faff around trying to get the tyre to seal, add sealant, top up, faff and get messy if you want to change tyres, etc, etc.

I'll always carry a spare even if/when I do change to tubeless. At present all my rigs have tubes.

Me! 😀

Having seen WCA having to stop every 5 minutes to pump his tubeless tyres up, i'm quite happy with tubes and a spare.

If it ain't broke....

Me

I don't live in an area with hawthorn hedging and don't use super low pressures so punctures are rare and I like to change tyres for the conditions.

Another tube user here 😀
I tend to 'ride light' so don't pinch flat and my local stuff is thorn and rock free woodland trails so don't see the point in changing.

Judging by forum talk: all the advocates say 'it's so much easier/less trouble' but I've yet to see a post asking for advice on "how to fit my innertubed tyres" or "my hell with an innertube" etc....

:EDIT: if I agree with juan, TJ and prawny I think the interweb may implode 😆
so - tubeless all the way here, ride those low pressures and embrace the rubbery gunk juice, can't see how in this day and age you guys are still using tubes FFS

Only when in London...

I used a tube the other day as a tow rope when a friend mangled his drive train.

Yup tubes, never had a problem with them.

3 bikes all tubes - they work for me so I haven't tried to work out how tubeless works!

Well most of people on local forums.
Me and all my riding friends (who shop at the same place) are the only ones using tubes in tubeless tyres. They are apparently amazing. But as I had way to much bad experiences with that I went back to tube ages ago.

LOLz @ hilldodger

Still use tubes - but I'm lazy / tight so can't be bothered converting. I thought about converting my non-tubeless rims with the stans kit, but saw the price and thought sod that.

I rarely pinch flat, even when running lightish tubes on a DH bike with low pressure. If it ain't broke....

Yep - tubeless looks like a right pain in the arse.

Always tubes.

Only when in London...

I think it would be absolute insanity to ride in London or any big city, with tubeless tyres. What with all the tiny shards of glass that are on the roads, which cause so many punctures, and all the other bits and bobs.

Can you imagine, trying to sort out a puncture after a big nail off a building site's gone through yer tyre? It's late evening, it's freezing cold and peeing with rain, and you have a long ride home no suitable train goes anywhere near to make it worthwhile...

Can't say I've seen any tubeless commuter tyres.

And road bikes don't use them either, do they?

So that limits tubeless tyres for use in places where you're not likely to get punctures, so nowhere with brambles/thorny bushes and that. Also nowhere with sharp flinty jageddy bits either.

Which kind of narrows the number of places where they are suitable, down somewhat.

And all the tubeless riders I've met (except for WCA) carry spare tubes, so I have toask, 'what's the bloody point really?'

Just a fad really, in't it?

Ooh look at my nice tubeless tyres aren't they lovely?[i] [b]BANG![/b] [i]Sob! I'm cold and tired and frightened and I want to go home and my bicycle is broken oh it's so unfair...[/i]

It's not a PITA, use proper tubeless ready tyres on rims designed for tubeless running, correct fitting valves and proper sealant and they'll go up with a track pump and stay up.

It's generally when you try to ghetto it, the problems occur.

As I dont own a compressor I have to use tubes.

use proper tubeless ready tyres on rims designed for tubeless running, correct fitting valves and proper sealant

And this will cost me how much to convert my otherwise perfectly good bicycle to this new-fangled unnecessaryness?

Only when in London...

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Can you imagine, trying to sort out a puncture after a big nail off a building site's gone through yer tyre? It's late evening, it's freezing cold and peeing with rain, and you have a long ride home no suitable train goes anywhere near to make it worthwhile...

I got a nail in my tubeless tyre somewhere before Rawlins on the Tour Divide. The latex did it's job, and the tyre stayed until the end. I can't remember the exact distance from Rawlins to the border but it's > 1000 miles.

Crossmark/Stans - Worked for me

I used them for 6w eeks so far. The feel is awesome, roll nicer too. Tubs not clinchers on my road bike too when I used to do that

Tubes FTW!

Tubeless tyres are something else we don't need along with indexed gears, disc brakes, suspension...

Only when in London...

And I missed it. 😳

I got a nail in my tubeless tyre somewhere before Rawlins on the Tour Divide. The latex did it's job, and the tyre stayed until the end. I can't remember the exact distance from Rawlins to the border but it's > 1000 miles.

What if the latex [i]haddunt[/i] of done it's job though?

Can you imagine, trying to sort out a puncture after a big nail off a building site's gone through yer tyre? It's late evening, it's freezing cold and peeing with rain, and you have a long ride home no suitable train goes anywhere near to make it worthwhile...

How would a tube stop a nail, do you run lead tubes!? I did get a nail in my (tubeless) tyre, pulled it out, tyre sealed, rode on. Happy times.

As I dont own a compressor I have to use tubes.

Neither do I, I've been tubeless for nearly 11 years.

Just a fad really, in't it?

Yep, just like gears, suspension and disc brakes. All completely superfluous, but better than the alternatives!

And all the tubeless riders I've met (except for WCA) carry spare tubes, so I have toask, 'what's the bloody point really?'

Do you ask everyone, or do you only know because WCA is the only one who's needed one? You've ridden with me, I wasn't carrying one, I was also using the most stupid 295g tyres known to man, which I'd not do with tubes.

I can see why people don't bother with the hassle they seem to have, but I'd not go back, no way.

Don't you have to clean them out after a few months, even if they work perfectly?

Tubes here. If it ain't broke, etc.

How would a tube stop a nail, do you run lead tubes!?

Point is, if there's a gaping hole in the tyre, a bit of cardboard and a new innertube- get home. I'd like to see that done with a tubeless tyre...

You've ridden with me, I wasn't carrying one, I was also using the most stupid 295g tyres known to man, which I'd not do with tubes.

Come ride that bike for a month in London with me. See how long your tyres lasted before you break down sobbing and throw your bike in the canal....

And I won't offer you any sympathy, as you sit there at the dside of the road, sobbing. I'd just point and laugh at you in a cruel and mocking manner, and tell passers-by that you're running tubeless, and then they'd all laugh at you in a cruel and mocking manner too, and then you'd get so upset you'd probbly wet yourself.
😐

(I woodunt actually be that nasty, I'd lend you a spare innertube...)

Again; how much is cost convert my already perfectly adequate bike to tubeless unnecessaryness?

use proper tubeless ready tyres on rims designed for tubeless running

Well this is how I try them. UST rims and tyres.

'If it ain't broke' then why are we not all in our model T's or even better still horse an cart that ain't broke either!

Come ride that bike for a month in London with me. See how long your tyres lasted before you break down sobbing and throw your bike in the canal....

And I won't offer you any sympathy, as you sit there at the dside of the road, sobbing. I'd just point and laugh at you in a cruel and mocking manner, and tell passers-by that you're running tubeless, and then they'd all laugh at you in a cruel and mocking manner too, and then you'd get so upset you'd probbly wet yourself.

😆

I seemed to pinch flat UST tyres more than than I pinch flatted tubes! 😕 And the worst thing was, the wee hole on the UST tyres seemed to be in precisely the most difficult place to repair, so they would always have a slow leak at best.

Seemed to suffer very variable results with sealant too, when I put a hole in the side of my ghetto ADvantages, I was greeted with a tiny jet of latex spraying out every revolution, and a slowly deflating tyre.

I miss the feel of tubeless, but until I've got the time and the money to fiddle about with tyres and sealant, I'm happy to run tubes.

I can't be arsed with tubeless, seems like too much of a faff. I only got 3 pinch flats in 2 months of daily (about 11am-7pm) riding last summer, so I'd rather just put up with a bit extra weight.

I have both across my bikes but will be going full tubeless. Not sure what the mess is, maybe some are more cack handed than me. I have my home brew sealant in an icing bottle and just squirt it in through the core less valve. No mess or commotion.

I have on one occasion managed to split the tyre enough that the sealant will not get me home. When this happened I just put a tube in and got on with it. I know that I have 'punctured' and the sealant has done its job a treat. At worst I have had to put a bit more air in the tyre to get home. No special UST or tubeless tyre here either. I fit single ply Hi rollers and leave em on till they are worn out. And believe me they are well worn by the time I take them off.

Yeah I have a small compressor at home and it works a treat with soapy water. I can't be bothered with trying the track pump although it probably would work. I may one day try the pikey inflater just for a laugh.

I know that some have struggled to get tubeless to work for them due to various reasons. All I can say is that it has worked okay for me.

Tubes here but I rode rigid for 12 years before getting any suspension, was using friction shifters for at least 5 years after indexed gears arrived and only got my first bike with all disc brakes last year.
I'm sure at some point I'll try it and may well yet again wonder why I didn't do it years ago. However I'm pretty light and can ride what I ride and how I ride it with 25 psi in the tyres without getting pinch flats and I reckon on an average of 2 - 4 punctures a year so it's not a priority.

I have gone back to friction shifters and its afar superior 🙂

Still on tubes here, don't get many flats so don't see much point changing just for the hell of it. I'm sure they have their advantages, but as said above- if it ain't broke etc.

I thought about going tubeless until I saw a thread on a forum once involving a Badger, an airship, Concord and a lot of piss-taking which has subsequently had a profound effect on me... 😯

Pre hack, anyone got it archived? Hilarious 😆

Tubes here too....read an interview with Steve Peat the other day and he still runs tubes so probably not the holy grail some claim them to be.

Tubes who still use them then?

i do.

i tried Ghetto tubeless, with mixed/poor/crap results.

but i may consider 'proper' tubeless rims when it's time for new wheels...

so probably not the holy grail some claim them to be

Well if they were you wouldn't see any tube in MX would you.