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[Closed] tubeless - UST or "nearly proper" ??

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so I have a rear wheel with a stan's rim, all yellow-taped up & a "proper" valve in it (none of yer booyahghettogangsta carry on)

I also have had 3 thorn/flint punctures in the last 3 hrs tubed riding & don't want any more so going to try 1 wheel tubeless & see what's what

... and I know bugger all about tubeless

If I put a UST tyre on, do I still need jizz in there ?
If I do, what's the difference between UST and "not" ?
(I've a feeling it may be sidewall thickness - most xc tyres seem too thin to use without a tube)

and, err what tyre? (2.1 or 2.3 ish, UST or otherwise?)


 
Posted : 01/06/2009 8:16 pm
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Yes you need to jizz in the tyre first
It will have 'TUBELESS' or 'UST' on the sidewall

If you're going to try it do the rear first as that's where most of your puncture will be.


 
Posted : 01/06/2009 8:20 pm
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If you use a non tubeless tire, well, thats like stepping on a SPD with you wellies and wondering why they wont engage!

If you had a flint slice puncture with a huge slash in your tire - ust wont prevent this- on the plus side you wont get any snake bites and you wont even know if you have a thorn/nail/screw in your tire until you clean the bike.

Done properly UST beats tubes anyday - I fill mine with nitrogen as well now, comepletely leak free!


 
Posted : 01/06/2009 8:38 pm
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SPDs - what do you think I am, some sort of weirdo ?? ๐Ÿ˜‰

punctures have been 2 tiny bits of flinty stuff & 1 thorn - I'm "sure" tubeless would've sorted them all

What's the actual difference between UST and non-UST though ?

(nitrogen - why is that leak-free ?)


 
Posted : 01/06/2009 8:47 pm
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[i]on the plus side you wont get any snake bites [b]Mostly, but it still happens[/b] and you wont even know if you have a thorn/nail/screw in your tire until you clean the bike.[/i][b]Until you have one trailside that won't re-inflate, that is, which you will, eventually[/b]


 
Posted : 01/06/2009 8:50 pm
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Until you have one trailside that won't re-inflate, that is, which you will, eventually

I'm happy to carry a spare tube (as long as I (mostly) don't have to use it !)


 
Posted : 01/06/2009 9:41 pm
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nick - we get the picture now ๐Ÿ˜›


 
Posted : 01/06/2009 9:47 pm
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What's the actual difference between UST and non-UST though ?

UST; proprietary Mavic system using a patent airtight rim and bead design. Doesn't strictly need sealant as the tyres are non-porous, but it will seal penetrations like thorns. Tyres tend to be heavier as a result.

Tubeless; some use an airtight rim/bead seal (Geax TLR, Bonty Tubeless-Ready) but the tyres are porous so need sealant. Many folk use normal tyres on conversions, some known as 'ghetto' tubeless.


 
Posted : 01/06/2009 9:50 pm