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Think it was Alp D'huez. 2nd week of a3 week Euro road trip. Wanging it down a track, hit a jump and a couple of dudes had left a bike in the landing.
My mate hit it, crashed and broke his wrist. Ended his holiday right there.
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[i]airport baggage reclaim. stand a foot or so back from the line around the belt, then more people can easily see, and fit, at least if we all did it, and just step forward and grab the bag as it goes by. but no. stand in front of me, i'm just passing the time of day, after all.... [/i]
Ohh this winds me up too. There is even a painted line to tell people where to stand ffs. Glad it's not just me. I reach through, grab my bag and drag it through the crowd. Who probably don't notice as they are so oblivious.
Trolleys in supermarkets too, argh... Oh god I'm getting infuriated now as I'm thinking about people who don't indicate when driving, or don't acknowledge me when I've let them in/out, or when I've held the door open, or they remember they've forgotten something when the cashier has rung up their shop, or.... (walks away to calm down)
(comes back a bit later) No flaming from me, I want to congratulate you (op). Common problem at trail centres though, and only replaced by pedestrians out in the wild though.
Yes I am an intolerant sod.
Try the Alpine skier monkey screech
Works best with trolley-chatters in tescos
Singletrack surfer you are missing people who leave their car at the petrol pump whilst they go and do a big shop in the forecourt mini-mart.
Utter ****-ends.
Came across a couple of blokes walking their dog straight down the red at dalby one morning.
And me getting incredulous looks because I didn't beep..seriously
Kooks, everywhere I see Kooks.
Try the Alpine skier monkey screechI'm going to try this nice time i go to a trail centre...but then back it up with a cheery hello.
How about Singletrack doing an article on trail etiquette? I don't necessarily mean some of the finer points but just the basic stuff?
How about Singletrack doing an article on trail etiquette? I don't necessarily mean some of the finer points but just the basic stuff?
"Don't be a dick."
Now where do I collect my royalties?
Supermarket trolleys.
If they are left unattended I like to move them to the next aisle then wander back to see the ensuing confusion and panic 😆
"Don't be a dick."
Now where do I collect my royalties?
You don't know till you ask.....
Much talk about gear, is there much talk about safe & responsible riding?....
Someone needs to make a gnar edit on riding responsibly....
Much talk about gear, is there much talk about safe & responsible riding?....
I do a fair bit of ride-leading, including a LEJOG event and this is by far the main problem on it. Everyone knows all about the gear, their power meter readings, heart rate, Garmin, Strava, blah blah.
It gets to the riding bikes part of it and many of them simply have zero idea of things like road positioning, spatial awareness, bunch riding...even things as basic as gear selection.
All their "training" has been done on the turbo, they can smash out big gear intervals and watch the power meter numbers rise but sadly that doesn't translate to actually being able to turn corners or descend on a wet road.
I suspect that translates pretty well across most types of cycling - MTBers will have seen all the videos of shredding the gnar and the magazine articles about how to roost/schralp/shred/rail/hammer* but nothing about minor things like where to stand while you're waiting for your mates or discussing how rad you all were on that previous section.
*delete as required depending on your levels of gnarr-core.
More recently? People standing in front of supermarket baskets / underground station entrances / elevator door completely absorbed by tapping away on smartphone
This ^^^
It's not limited to trail centres - just about every walk of life is becoming more and more compromised by people who have absolutely no awareness of what's going on around them - even when you bring it to their attention.
I'm coming to the conclusion that evolution has gone into reverse.
@MuddyDwarf - to really have fun, move the trolley as far away as possible, and put loads if expensive stuff in it on the way ( whisky, disposable razors, caviar) and embarrassing stuff (pile cream, precnancy tests, a gross of condoms and a dozen tubes of KY jelly)
Make sure to hide these under other items, so that they aren't discovered until they reach the checkout.
mrlebowski - MemberMuch talk about gear, is there much talk about safe & responsible riding?...
The trouble is, there's no one accepted version. Like, chap on p1 was annoyed because another rider at a trail centre did something which would, in most circumstances, be the best thing to do. And we had a big argy bargy about giving way to climbers or descenders. And IMBA say it's bad to ride in the rain.
Not blocking trails is pretty bloody obvious though.
That bloke on the skiing vid makes all those monkey noises to shift folk on the way down, then stops and stands right in the middle of the bloody trail at the end. Fin de cloche!
In general trail etiquette threads tend to get about 5-10 pages of entrenched views mostly resonating around people being sick of other people doing what other people do. What is the right thing for some is seen as a deep and cutting insult to both their manhood and entire family...
The last one I remember was about leaving a gap/waiting at a trail entrance for slower riders.
One side found it awful that somebody would tell them what to do or even make a suggestion about pausing (as they knew a slower rider was ahead) the other couldn't get why somebody would want to hammer on and then run into the back of the guy in front.
The only sensible alternative is just to have a pre booked slot on the trail with set times at a number of checkpoints. We could reduce unemployment by then recruiting marshalls to check your paperwork at set points to ensure you were not encroaching or lagging behind, if you fell off schedule you would then be diverted either a short cut to make up time or back to the car park so that nobody else had their day ruined. You should also have to be able to prove with verifiable evidence that you can complete the loop in a certain time limit or be made to do the blue instead.
Sounds reasonable to me
mikewsmith - MemberOne side found it awful that somebody would tell them what to do or even make a suggestion about pausing (as they knew a slower rider was ahead) the other couldn't get why somebody would want to hammer on and then run into the back of the guy in front.
It's because catching people is rad to the power of sick. It's exactly the same bullshit as you get in trackdays where fast guys go in beginners so they can spend the whole session passing people then bang on about it to their mates. Speed is too relative for some people, they can't feel fast unless something else is going slow. So they set up a situation where they'll get held up, then complain about it as if it wasn't exactly what they wanted.
It doesn't happen often to me any more tbh but if some dude comes down a trail centre trail and catches me, they can **** off, they's getting held up. Not because I'm too big a deal to move over but because he could have avoided it and chose not to. And therefore, if I catch someone on a trailcentre trail, it stands to reason that I should stop or check my speed. Person behind is in control of all parts of the situation from the start.
Basically. Everything everyone except me ever does, it's because they're a cock.
Two gnar lads smirked at my new fully rigid sspeed today and raced off to keep ahead of me. I'd already been round on my proper bike and as it was in the van, thought I'd have a quick blast as it was delivered only yesterday. I felt a bit bad when they had to let me by.
This, every flipin time at Swinley.
I've stopped being polite when I catch people on the Fat bike (they can definitely hear it coming!) and just say things like "Sorry for, I'd have left more space but I though't you'd be faster", or "no, no, don't pull over, you'll definitely be quicker on the next bit".
I ride it as an XC loop, so don't stop before each section.
I'm not gnarrr, I'm definitely not fit, I just opt not to dawdle at every flipin' signpost.
This, every flipin time at Swinley.
The more I read about Swinley the less I want to visit 😉
The trick at Swinley is to keep off the waymarked stuff 8)
I was quite looking forward to going to Llandegla this coming weekend, for a change.
Not so sure now.
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My two cents: I tend to assume people are just being ignorant and I'll make a remark like "don't take up the whole trail mate, I'm not that slim anymore" and smile.
The more I read about Swinley the less I want to visit
It's fine as a quick 90min XC route, I struggle to comprehend the need to stop at each of the 50+ signposts on a route that short.
The trick at Swinley is to keep off the waymarked stuff
The advantage of the new trails is actually the old stuff that links up with the main trail seems to be holding up Ok through the winter, like the trails over New England hill. Downside is a lot of the stuff away from the main trail seems to be disappearing completely, or ironically being straight-lined more and more? Guess there's less people 'policing' it moving branches back to mark corners etc.
It's not the riding I was talking about TINAS, just seems to have an elevated number of people who don't get Rule 1
did these people not realise how important you were,absolute scum,deaths too good for some 😯
Did you not think to say "excuse me" on the way up to them before getting angry?
This would seem the most sensible course of action.
, I struggle to comprehend the need to stop at each of the 50+ signposts on a route that short.
So that you can read the secret messages. You do know about the messages on the Swinley sign posts don't you?? 8)
The very worst bit of riding I've seen at Swinley was a couple of months ago. I was riding with a couple of mates and leading on what I think is called The whole nine yards, when we got to the climb there was a young family with bikes near the top so I slowed to a sensible speed to give them space and at that point a rider barged past narrowly missing the small child standing at the side of the trail. The father was understandably horrified and kid looked terrified, Really not cool.