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[Closed] Tour de France stage 3 - Verviers / Longwy - The Battle of Ardennes

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Morning all, everyone well on this fine Monday? A stage of 3 countries today, let's see what it's all about.

Starting from Philippe Gilbert's native town of Verviers, stage 3 is much hillier than stage 2. A visit will be paid to the car racing circuit of Spa-Francorchamps after 20km of racing through the Ardennes on the roads of Liรจge-Bastogne-Liรจge, the oldest of the big classics. 130 kilometres of the course are in Luxemburg, the country of the recently retired Schleck brothers. One Luxemburger, Ben Gastauer of AG2R-La Mondiale, is part of the 195-rider strong peloton. Everyone else who is not familiar with this small country will realize it's not a flattish one. Stage 3 is long too: 212.5km. It might be a hard day for some riders.

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Who's in the mix? Only one place to find that out, off to the Inrng we go.

The Contenders: Peter Sagan is an obvious pick, heโ€™s the normally the master at these kind of finishes. But youโ€™ll remember Zden?k ล tybar winning ahead of him in the 2015 Tour de France in Le Havre, ditto Greg Van Avermaet in Rodez that year. But those were the days when Sagan kept finishing second, heโ€™s a more prolific winner but both of those riders are contenders today. ล tybar might be tasked with trying to get Matteo Trentin to the finish because the Italian is a 10 second time bonus away from the yellow jersey thanks to the hundredths of a second recorded in the time trial and Trentin will probably find this finish too much. Meanwhile also at Quick Step Philippe Gilbertโ€˜s problem is not the climb, itโ€™s the way the road levels out towards the finish. He used to be invincible in finishes like this but heโ€™s about to turn 36 this week and doesnโ€™t have that old zip so heโ€™s not such a firm pick

Michael Matthews is a good challenger but how to beat Sagan? Does he ask his team for a high tempo on the steepest parts of the climb to try and put Sagan and the other sprinters into the red knowing he just might be able to outpace them or just simply stick to Sagan and hope for the best with 100 metres to go?

Thereโ€™s a long list of other contenders who will queue on Saganโ€™s wheel. Diego Ulissi might prefer a slightly more sustained climb but is still very good for a finish like this and maybe UAE team mate Ben Swift can hold tight for the sprint. FDJ will count on Arthur Vichot who looked good in the Tour de Suisse but the level of opposition here is so big that a win seems unlikely. Orica-Scott have Michael Albasini, a specialist at uphill finishes but a rare winner outside his native Switzerland. Trek-Segafredoโ€™s Fabio Felline could pounce, Cannondale-Drapacโ€™s Patrick Bevin is handy for short uphill sprints and Dimension Dataโ€™s Edvald Boasson Hagen had a great time trial, the form is there. Finally Movistarโ€™s Carlos Betancur who is looking much leaner these days, perhaps not the winner but weโ€™ll see if heโ€™s back to his fighting weight.

And to finish, a few pics of the fun yesterday.

Kittel, perfectly timed
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Phinney, good to see him smashing it up again.
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Moist.
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Posted : 03/07/2017 8:11 am
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Well my fantasy team may be at it's highest point of the race but I'll tempt fate and go with Sagan, GT to stay yellow and a bit more of a careful go from some in the GC.Not sure if anyone will try anything cheeky on the climbs or try and stretch/catch out somebody. Could be a fun one


 
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Inrng has already picked some of my favourites, so no point in going over what's already been said.
Having said that I want a breakaway, I want it to go to the end, I want vomit on the line.

Great course, looks really leg sappingly fun.. hope to see plenty of spectators out on a Monday as the route goes through housing estates and residential areas, and fields.


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 8:22 am
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I've had coffee and now feel awake.

The main name I think that Inrng has left off is Kristoff, it seems like his kind of stage, though I often say that. Degenkolb could also be worthy of consideration, certainly if EBH is being mentioned as they all seem similar riders.


 
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There's a nasty little potholed climb in the last 2k.

So, Sagan.


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 9:18 am
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The climb out of Esch-sur-Sure is a bit of a bastard (couple of km with a lot of double-digit gradient) and is a possible jump-off for someone but quite a big call for an attack given the rest of the route is quite rolling. Pretty much the entire route through Luxembourg is quite rural with lots of small country towns (I shall be skiving off in Saeul for example). From about 170km in though it's all a bit industrial and, other than the finishing area, Longwy is a shithole.


 
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There's a nasty little potholed climb in the last 2k.

I'd heard they were putting a new surface down but I don't recall it being too poorly surfaced before (it's a main road) but it's a few years since I was up there.


 
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There's a nasty little potholed climb in the last 2k.

So, Sagan.

Kwiatkowski (if he's allowed off the leash).
Zdenek Stybar
Greg van Avermart / Phillipe Gilbert if only because the finish is quite Classics


 
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Michael Matthews is an outside chance too and I know GvA was down for the Tour de Luxembourg for race fitness and a recon and from what I heard he went to check out the finale for today.


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 9:25 am
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Dan Lloyd reckons Darryl Impey is a good outside bet.


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 9:30 am
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Atlaz, see @nedboulting for a shot of the surface today.


 
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Atlaz, see @nedboulting for a shot of the surface today.

Ah, in Longwy and environs, that counts as a pretty good surface ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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So, the chippy is closed. But. There is a town fair which means sausages and beer so it's not a total loss.


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 10:39 am
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Adam Hansen in the break, always good to see.


 
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Bit odd riding around Spa


 
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Valverde [s]has[/s] had an outside chance.


 
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Smithy saying on the commentary that the run to the line really levels out and favours the classics sprinters much more than the puncheurs or climbers.


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 12:25 pm
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Not even giving the break 2 minutes. Everyone must be super nervous.


 
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Adam Hansen in the break, always good to see.

He's just bored with riding Grand Tours so wants to get it over with quickly.


 
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Who's doing the chasing?

Just assumed Hansen had won a tour stage at some point, apparently not.


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 12:59 pm
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Super windy today. If I'm not wrong it should be a headwind up the final climb


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 1:08 pm
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Full coverage of every stage makes you realise how bloody long they are. Still not half way.


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 1:30 pm
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Cav riding into form??
and yes stages are long, longer when it's nearly 11pm here, bugger all happens until about 1am here


 
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Cav riding into form??

I'd expect it to be the opposite given what he's been suffering from.


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 2:11 pm
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De Ghent has 30 secs over the breakway with 1 minute on the peleton, 35k to go.


 
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pity hansen couldnt stay with him

dammit Ive got to go and take the kids to tennis. going to miss the finish ๐Ÿ™ Will have to follow on news ticker on the phone. But really like listening to Millar and Ned on ITV4 on the computer ATM


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 3:53 pm
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I'm sticking with Eurosport. As insightful as Millar is, it's not the same without Sean Kelly.

25k to go now, getting down to business.


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 4:02 pm
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That was good.


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 4:34 pm
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Sagan is just marvellous isn't he... Such a versatile rider it's unreal ! Classics, sprints, 20km out flat wins, hilly wins... Just awesome.


 
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Considering he unclipped just as he was starting his sprint and had to get his foot back in and still won... blimey!

Wondering if there was a time gap back to Kittel as he was done on the climb. Might have cost him a shot at yellow.


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 4:37 pm
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I am looking forward to the highlights of that, sounded awesome.


 
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Haha, gotta love Sagan ๐Ÿ˜†


 
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Wow what a finish!!


 
Posted : 03/07/2017 4:38 pm
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Sagan, dead casual: "Got to get your foot position right before launching a sprint."


 
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Toughy that climb, bit odd to see both Porte and Bertie up there with 400m to go.. Nice to see Dan Martin 3rd, beating Greg Van Wheelsucker.
Well done to Sags, I'm warming to his 70's Porno Tache' too.


 
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Cheers for these lunge - most appreciated.


 
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"What's this - my foot has unclipped mid sprint? Why i'll just casually pop it in back in before obliterating everyone then I suppose"

I'm annoyed there was no wheelie though...

"what is pressure?" ๐Ÿ˜†


 
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bit odd to see both Porte and Bertie up there with 400m to go

Best way to stay out of trouble I'd assume.

Sagan is bloody impressive. Red hot favourite for the stage, a marked man, everyone knows he's the wheel to be on, and still he delivers.

What's with the googles?


 
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[url= https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.outsideonline.com/2197012/peter-sagan-may-save-bike-racing%3Famp ]Fun interview with Sagan from Outside[/url]


 
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There's a nasty little potholed climb in the last 2k.

So, Sagan.

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How long until the replay is on the web to watch? Can't seem to find today's yet


 
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What's with the googles?

Assuiming another sponsor, they had 1st on the lense do a little podium extra maybe.

Good to see the finish going a bit more open, little more of a hill and there would have been some more gaps.


 
Posted : 04/07/2017 1:15 am
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Nice little quip from Gary Imlach that he might turn up on the next podium with a shower head.


 
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French TV already has adverts with Sagan in the shower... are these on Eurosport/ITV?


 
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