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[Closed] Ticks - how do I deal with the little buggers?

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I've been mountain biking for around 13 years and I have never knowingly had a tick or ever worried about it. The other day I managed to pick one up in Leigh Woods in Bristol and today I found two of the little buggers on me.

Is there anything I can do to keep them off me? Just use some kind of repellent? Any recommendations? Also, how do I get them out? I've read that you need a special tool and you shouldn't use your fingers (which is what I've done up until now!).


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 7:41 pm
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Give it some heat with a lighter then pick it out once it's loosened its grip. I guess the ones you don't notice must just drop out eventually once they've had their fill...


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 7:44 pm
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I read that burning them was bad too...


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 7:54 pm
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I think removing them with your fingers can work fine if you have reasonably long fingernails. You just have to make sure you don't squash it, and you remove it all, don't leave the head still attached.

Otherwise, it may be easier to use a proper tool. Pet shops usually sell them.
I use one of these, it works fine, and small enough to easily carry: http://www.tickinfo.com/protickremedy.htm


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 7:55 pm
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Buy a tick remover. Nice pictures ๐Ÿ˜•
http://www.bada-uk.org/defence/removal/removaltool.php


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 7:58 pm
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Deet repells then (or calendula oil for the eco warriers).

You need as tick remover as they need to be properly removed (i.e. not tweezers!).

See [url= http://www.bada-uk.org/ ]BADA[/url] for the proper info and to buy removers/repellants


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 8:00 pm
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Grasp as low as you can with fine forceps. Don't squeeze the body or burn it or cover it with stuff. Pull it straight out no twisting.

Pulled the first of the year out the front of my knee yesterday. Yuk!

I doubt i'll get lyme disease.


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 8:03 pm
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+1 for the otom tick remover, i pull em out of my dog maybe once a day (long grass in the woods behind our house) and the tool makes it easy and with no worries about squishing its guts into the dog. they dont cost much and can be bought from any good vet, i wouldn't try the lighter trick or the vaseline or the tweezers etc etc there is nowt more satisfying than the right tool for the job!!!


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 8:07 pm
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When I lived down in the SW I'd regularly find them. My tip would be to check for them in the shower, they're the flecks of mud that don't come off. Just pull them out with tweezers.


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 8:08 pm
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vaseline etc gets em off, but only after they puke a bellyful of Lyme bugs into you - not so sure about burning

hooks are good as you don't get squeezing/trauma to the tick (so no vomming)

good reason to wear lycra undershorts though - they like "warm" bits best ๐Ÿ˜ณ


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 8:10 pm
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[url= http://www.bada-uk.org/defence/removal/removaltweezers.php ]tick removal with tweezers[/url]


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 8:15 pm
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yeah number two today was dangerously close to my manhood. These things are tiny though, nothing like the size of those in the pics. Do the removal tools work on real tiny ones?


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 8:17 pm
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The tools work great with even the little ones. By far the best way


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 8:20 pm
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If you do not get em quick Lymes desease is not nice ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

Hence I feel like SHITE and I am on anti biotics as we speak with blood test to look forward to do ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

I will be using our citroenella soap in future when out on my bike


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 8:20 pm
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT USE ANYTHING OTHER THAN TWEEZERS OR BETTER STILL A REMOVAL TOOL - YES I'M SHOUTING!

Lymes disease is a nasty debilating potentially lifelong illness. A study by the University of Bath found 10% of ticks in the area carry it. Removal them quickly and properly and you stand a much better chance of avoiding it.

http://www.lymediseaseaction.org.uk/ticks.htm


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 8:21 pm
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phototim, the life cycle has at least 2 feeding stages, one of which is larvae (and they are very little). I [b][i]think[/i][/b] they're incapable of spreading Lyme at this phase.
[url= http://www.aldf.com/deerTickEcology.shtml ]some life-cycle guff[/url]


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 8:22 pm
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I'll stick with my Shepherd Grandfather's method of hot match to the back of their head and tweezers.

Tick removal tools are supposed to work very well though.


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 8:25 pm
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Tools are good but if you don't have one handy you are better using fine tweezers than waiting to get a tool.


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 8:27 pm
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i hold cotton wool in my mouth then get in a hot bath and slowly submerge and the ticks all run up out of the water onto the cotton wool then i set fire to the cotton wool

trust me


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 8:34 pm
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lol Jedi.


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 8:37 pm
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Leigh woods? Bollocks.

Does skin so soft put the little buggers off?


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 8:46 pm
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Yeah I went to the mendips a few weeks ago and sat in the long grass for an hour, didn't get bitten at all. Then I had a 2 hour ride in leigh woods and got two of them. All this reading of lyme disease is giving me the heebie geebies.


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 8:50 pm
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Interesting that someone said don't twist them. We use tick twister on the dog and always "unscrew" them. As an extension of this, has anyone given any thoughts to the risk of TBE when riding in the Alps?


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 9:26 pm
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As far as I can tell you twist them with the tool but pull them straight out if using tweezers.


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 9:38 pm
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the 2nd best way is to stab them with a big screwdriver and douse them in beer!

simples


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 9:41 pm
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twisty tool, no pulling required. never ever left anything behind with the tool, its awesome.


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 9:42 pm
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I've been riding for about the same length of time and got my first one a couple of weekends ago on the SDW. I just pi led it out as it didn't have any an exploded body at that point so presumed the head wasn't to buried. Yank.

We used to use aseline on the dogs... Covering the ticks. That way they suffocated an came detached. Worked every time


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 9:46 pm
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o'tom tick twister from the vet's for a couple of quid for a small one and a large one for the monster ticks, job done.


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 9:56 pm
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Grab the bugger by the head, twist anti clockwise, ping it at a mate - job done. Twisting clockwise is a bad idea. Never left anything behind using this method.


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 10:01 pm
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This removes ticks of all sizes even the smallest easily.
http://www.misotrading.co.uk/
dont use chemicals on ticks, vaseline included.
They are easily removed without harming them, preventing them spewing disease into you, providing they are removed correctly.


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 10:03 pm
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The one that come off the dog we keen in a jar just in case he gets ill afterwards. Don't know if it would help diagnosis but I think it's something I read somewhere suggesting that you should.


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 10:07 pm
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Really good article about the whole tick / lymes disease thing at UKClimbing [url= http://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/page.php?id=398 ]here[/url]


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 10:19 pm
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Apparently burning, covering in vaseline, drowning and squeezing can all make them spew there infectious crap into you. Trouble is, the one on my leg came apart in my big fuggly fingers leaving what I assume was the head. I did manage to get this out with the next yank. I spose if in the unlikely event are start feeling ill I better go see the doc!

Jedi, do I use a phillips, posi drive, flat head or left handed screw driver for the stabbing?!


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 10:26 pm
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if in doubt, use a blunt chisel


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 10:27 pm
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Who'd have thought ticks had threaded jaws.


 
Posted : 19/06/2010 10:48 pm
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I thought that was odd, but it seems to work. What's even more amazing is that they all have them with a right handed thread!


 
Posted : 20/06/2010 7:28 am
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++ for ivnickkate and the tick removal tools.
Bought one of these from the local vets, really quick, really easy, really cheap.


 
Posted : 20/06/2010 7:35 am
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I've removed several tucks from our cats by gently running circles with my finger on the back end of the tick. Don't press hard at all or you'll squeeze guts into the wound, but after a few minutes of doing this they either get dizzy or they release for a better grip and just fall off without leaving anything behind.

Of course a tool is better, but in it's absence, I've found the above works.


 
Posted : 20/06/2010 8:25 am
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Onzadog you have to watch for the italian ones though or you'll tighten them in further or even cross thread them. Do that and you knackered but a helicoil might fix them.


 
Posted : 20/06/2010 9:14 am
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Heh, I've never, ever knowingly had a tick on me. Neither has our dog. I wonder if they're like gnats/mozzies and only like certain people.


 
Posted : 20/06/2010 9:17 am
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Every year this topic comes up and every year the same crap is posted.

The simple requirement is to remove the tick including buried mouth parts without it regurgitating its stomach contents into your bloodstream.

Tick removal tool or tweezers shaped so they only grip the tick right next to your skin do the job. There is no need to twist.

Smothering, burning etc. increases your chance of catching something from the tick as it is likely to get distressed and vomit its stomach contents back into your bloodstream.


 
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Now I'm worried, tick twister is the next tool in the medical pack for sure!


 
Posted : 20/06/2010 9:32 am
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Never had one myself but the dog has picked up a couple. Seems to be very location specific. He never gets them where we live in Nottingham but only seems to get them when we visit people in Norfolk.

We use a tick twister, and we twist (as per the instructions, the clue is in the name) and it's always worked. Just bought a couple extra for us to take to the Alps with us (tick twisters that is)


 
Posted : 20/06/2010 10:00 am
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The twist in the tick twister is more for the design not because you have to remove ticks by twisting.


 
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I'm pretty sure if there was a way to remove a tick badly, I did it yesterday. If I was him I would have definitely Sh*t myself and vomited before having my arse pulled off. Perhaps I should cut my leg off with a junior hack saw.


 
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I got Lyme a couple of years back. Possibly from poor removal where the tick regurgitated, or from one I didn't notice. There was no rash that I perceived. Sometimes Lyme can be dormant for many years, before becoming activated by trauma or a supressed immune system. Mine manifested itself several years after the bite.

Trust me when I say that Lyme is very, very nasty and is not necessarily curable. I have been lucky to keep my job, but I certainly wasn't able to get much riding in for a couple of years as the Lyme arthritis saw to that.

The easiest cure is by prevention. Remove the tick quickly and correctly. Avoid hanging around in long grass or cover up. Check yourself for ticks after every ride.

If you develop ME type symptoms, even years after being bitten, there is a distinct possibility that it could be Lyme.

Additionally, the NHS is a dinosaur in terms of knowledge of Lyme, so do not expect them to offer you appropriate treatment.


 
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I'm pretty sure if there was a way to remove a tick badly, I did it yesterday. If I was him I would have definitely Sh*t myself and vomited before having my arse pulled off. Perhaps I should cut my leg off with a junior hack saw.

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Tick remover purchased, a pair of tweezers with hooks on the end. Also got some extra strong jungle formula to keep them off me. Fingers crossed I haven't caught anything ๐Ÿ™


 
Posted : 20/06/2010 6:19 pm
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Pulled this monster off my dog after a holiday in NW Scotland...

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That was the day after I pulled all these off;

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The big one popped like a grape when I stood on it and spread a surprising amount of goo around... Nasty !


 
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Ticks are pretty serious with Deer Ticks, the tiny black ones usually being the worse (the bigger pink-ish ones are usually sheep ticks -but there are lots of different ones!). We have Lyme D in lots round here but even those without the big LD can make you sick for a day or two.

We remove 2-5 off us most weekends and upto ten a week off the dogs. We have tried all the methods and by far the easiest is the Tom O Tick twister, and they are cheap -ought to be one in every first aid kit/home. They come out by twisting anti-clockwise, not sure why (believe its their build?) but we have tried every way and I promise most success comes from this, straight pulls often leave the head or mouth parts in.

They come off veg/wood etc so if you don't brush against any thing they will struggle to get to you. If in a known tick area best to keep legs covered, only few times will have you doing this promise! And check at the end of the day, some are tiny but can be felt as they are hard though smaller than a pin head. They are climbing to where its warm so check all the way up, (don't usually attach for an hour or two) . I have found them there a day or two later!!

If you get any rings, lumps or flu like symptoms see the Doc but they often don't know much about them so check the net. Good luck keep them off or pull them off safely (carefully) ...... Happy Trails


 
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I got Lyme a couple of years back.

Same here, really knocks u for six, knackered all the time, memory loss, weird things happening physically: numbness, arthritis syptoms, bubbling feeling of the blood.
Nhs gave me 2 weeks antibiotics, helped for a bit. Now they more or less don't want to know.
There is a docu-film called [url= http://underourskin.com/ ]under our skin[/url] which gives a good account about how bad this disease is, and how health workers are split over the long term treatment/severity of the disease.


 
Posted : 20/06/2010 11:09 pm
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Same here, really knocks u for six, knackered all the time, memory loss, weird things happening physically: numbness, arthritis syptoms, bubbling feeling of the blood.
Nhs gave me 2 weeks antibiotics, helped for a bit. Now they more or less don't want to know.
There is a docu-film called under our skin which gives a good account about how bad this disease is, and how health workers are split over the long term treatment/severity of the disease.

Sucks mate. Are you getting any treatment? Feel free to drop me an email if you want (in profile)


 
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"Checking myself for ticks..."

Surely, if one of these little bar stewards sunk it's rotatory fangs in, you'd know about it?


 
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"Checking myself for ticks..."

Surely, if one of these little bar stewards sunk it's rotatory fangs in, you'd know about it?

You'd be surprised, not always painful and as already said they've a tendency to crawl to place you might not immediately notice them! ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


 
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I picked one up at the Bristol Bike fest this year. They're def about up there.


 
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