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You know the ones Wiggle are knocking out cheap. Is the rucksack a usable size, (jacket, packed lunch, spare gloves and a hat, you know the normal day out stuff) or is it just large enough for the bladder and tools that are supplied?
big enough for a minimalist all dayer (i have the older version that you can have for £20 with a bladder used once) Strap acme away in a crash so is now connected to the waist strap rather than the side of the pack its self
Thanks for the offer, and the advice, but it's for a present, so I'll be going down the new route.
Yes they are a good size. I got the 3l size and plenty of stowage space. It is a bit heavy. but then that's because it is large and appears well made so far.