We've got a great video inside of Transition's own Kyle Young getting rad on the new bike
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for me it is my anthem x2.i could ride it anywhere in uk (obviously within reason)but for the riding i do it is perfect. 😀
We've got a great video inside of Transition's own Kyle Young getting rad on the new bike
Yeah, okay, but ignore all that and it looks pretty interesting. 130mm travel, 68 degree HA, 130x10mm real axle, reasonable frame weight...
This:
Where it all started back in the late 70's . . . well for me anyway!
Are you daring to suggest an Orange 5 is NOT the ideal UK trail bike? You might need to go into hiding!! 🙂
… it looks pretty interesting. 130mm travel, 68 degree HA, 130x10mm real axle, reasonable frame weight...
Hmmm, pretty generic when described like that really isn’t it…
You could be describing any one of about 40 odd bikes currently targeted at the “IT management/Semi-Radcore/quarter fat Latte please/Yes I am growing a Goatee” MTB Fad segment…
It’s a slightly less over-built Bottle rocket with an extra inch of travel... Groundbreaking stuff 🙄
The perfect UK trail bike?
130mm travel steel hardtail.
looks right. you know how much?
"A lot of people will be asking why we have entered this category"
££££££££
looks like a wild hare from about 1999 to me (they [i]were[/i] nice though)
there's no perfect bike for the trail just a perfect trail for the bike your riding
Same as an 03 Heckler...
It’s a slightly less over-built Bottle rocket with an extra inch of travel... Groundbreaking stuff
not really, a bottle rocket is a 140mm travel overbuilt "slopestyle" bike that can happily take a ton of abuse. Where as the bike above is transitions XC full suss bike with slightly slack head angle and 120mm of travel, that will probably be slightly over built as that is a transition the bike company theme.
regressive suspension? Do they mean this? Falling rate / opposite of progressive?
Like Digressive but better 😀
I stand corrected last time I looked at a Bottle rocket was a 4" mini Gnarr bouncer, it's gained some travel but there we go...
Point still stands though the "Bandit" is pretty generic IT crowd bouncer... Not likely to set the world alight…
all these different axle standards is getting crazy
However dear boy, 142mm x 12mm (X-12) rear axle [b]is[/b] the future, 130x10 (i presume you meant 135x10) will be phased out next year. 😉
On-One seem to have it nailed IMO
I want a bike with transgressive suspension.
Anyone point me in the right direction?
(Probably a Cove I imagine)
nope i think youll find my bike is what you are talking about
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ETT a tad short for the STW FR gnar core AM trail centre massives short stem combo innit
i quite like that transition actually 😳
It just looks like a Chumba VF2 to me only without the sexy rear triangle.
Where it all started back in the late 70's . . . well for me anyway!
😆 Brought back memories...The Grifter
Cookeaa: I think you're confusing the bottlerocket with the Transition Double perhaps?
I think it looks nice too.
I'm sure when it first apeared it was a shorter travel rough and tumble machine, is/was the "Double" the one I'm thinking of?
Either way Short/no rear end travel Gnarr is where it's at in my book, none of this talent compensation bollocks... 😉
I like it, but I'd still have had a covert over that if I was buying a Transition becauseI sold my Trance as I wanted to have a bit more travel.
It just looks like a Chumba VF2 to me only without the sexy rear triangle.
And also without the horst link 😉
Anyone got any digressive biscuits?
It looks ok, sure it's fine, but it's not the messiah I don't think. Looks are a little underwhelming, but then I really don't like the Specialized thing they've got going on at the front; where the top and down tubes are practically parallel should be boxed, would improve the looks a lot.
Not convinced by the faux-bar arrangement though, it's just an over-complicated single pivot innit? Looks like a bike that will sell more on marketing (Look at our TR450, here's one you can afford) than on ability.
Maybe it looks better in different colours and maybe it rides better than it's looks suggest, we shall see....
...but it's not the messiah I don't think.
So is it the messiah or isn't it?!
Sorry. Bad day at the office.
I don't think it is. I can't say any more definitively than that.
It's not the messiah, it's a very naughty bike.
Not groundbreaking, perhaps, but just what I've been looking for.
We've got a great video inside of Transition's own Kyle Young getting rad on the new bike
Is he having an endoscopy while riding? Now that's a talent.
To play devil's advocate, do you need more than 100mm travel for the overwhelming majority of UK trail riding?
Andy
(DOI - ride a 100mm HT, which seems to be fine for most things round here)
nice
IT's not a case of need is it. Lets face it we all do this because of desire.
Another vote for 130mm hardtail as 'the perfect UK trail bike'. I accept that rear suspension bushing and bearing sealing has improved in recent years, but really, think about that Peak District Paste (TM), or the ability of south wales mud to churn through anything that wears.
SS is overkill (there are some gnarr climbs out there), but on the whole a hardtail'll do everything you need for the UK with the right compromise of abilities and maintenance.
[puts soapbox away again and sneaks off]
It looks nice enough, though a linkage driven single pivot (without ABP or DOPE). The 1 year warranty puts me off most though
"SS is overkill"
Are you sure you mean that?
To not be overkill surely you'd need less gears?
To play devil's advocate, do you need more than 100mm travel for the overwhelming majority of UK trail riding?
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/2010-a-year-in-mountains
Yup! Looks perfect for my adventures, might be my first paycheque treat...
120mm full suss or a hardtail
that is all
Came to this thread to nominate my most recent build - my 'full circle' [url= http://mamadirt.fotopic.net/c1553419_49.html ]Tazer VP[/url] but I have to admit that Bandit looks spot-on.
Hmmmmm . . .
Nah, the Tazer wins. I've ridden it every day for the last 2 weeks and I love it!!!! 😛
29er rigid single speed. If it's good enough for the alps it's more than sufficient for the poxy UK.
nice vid tazz.
it just makes me want to get out and [s]ride[/s] drink beer and coffee every time I watch that,
Jeez, that was one dull slow video.
yeh but you're fat and wear body armor and you hate 29ers and spend the whole time popping up on threads to slag them off, so if you watched a film with something you know you'll hate why did you just waste 4 minutes of your life? 😆
Yeah but Taz, we could all probably ride that trail that slowly on a halfords christmas cracker special.
swede yep no doubt and to me if I want to mince that slowly in the UK I don't need a 30lb boingy skill compensator to up my radcoreness to roll around a trail centre, so a 29er with stiff frontage is perfect 😀
just goes to show the perfect uk trail bike is the one you like to ride for the stuff you enjoy doing
just goes to show the perfect uk trail bike is the one you like to ride for the stuff you enjoy doing
Thread closed. X
Good lord, what a boring rider. He sums up nicely everything dislikeable about 29ers- it's all about the image, not how you ride. Sit around drinking arsey coffee, drink beer on a ride...
A slow rider, making a meal of easy trails on the wrong tool for the job (a lot of those hops simply wouldn't have been necessary on a real bike), and some of those smoothest trails in the vid he rides slower than he was climbing!
see you on sunday sweetie
oh spokes, do go and be a petulant child else where, haven't you got a thread about the nasty government ganging up on you somewhere to sulk on? 😉
love transition bikes.It's good seeing them grow and making a wider range of bikes.
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I would but they appear to be full of you and your mates posing with your inappropriate nichetanks.
not into niche. function over form for me. Probably why I like Nicolai too. I just think it's nice to see rider owned companies doing well without having to enlist a sponsored rider for input like some big orgs do to enable the design to work.Although I am very grateful to Brian Lopes for my 'large company made' bike.So it's all good really. Suppose I just like the small guys doing well.
Looks like nukeproof mega?
😆posing with your inappropriate nichetanks.
yeh but you're fat and wear body armor and you hate 29ers and spend the whole time popping up on threads to slag them off, so if you watched a film with something you know you'll hate why did you just waste 4 minutes of your life?
Untwist your panties.
Untwist your panties.
I go commando 😉
Sounds about right for you weirdos.
seeing as you lot don't appreciate a nice big stiff frontage, how about something like a blur LT or heckler if you want a bouncy bottom or a 456 ti or a nice sinister ridge or evil sov or dialled alpine hartail. All lovely bikes and great for proper mountains and big days out.
There we are, something we agree on. Dialled Alpines are ace, I love mine.
I think this is ideal....
I love alpines I think they're great, wee bit heavy/overbuilt for me but I'm an xcjeyboymincer. Do fancy an alpine or a sinister as a play bike though 😀
pennyfarthings go off road as well 😆
"SS is overkill"
Are you sure you mean that?
Good point. I meant SS is perhaps making it too simple, at the expense of all-round practicality. I'm sure there are many who might disagree, but I couldn't manage to get up some of the hills in the UK without more gears!
To be fair, most uk trail centres offer a ride out that doesn't require a 5K full susser. You can ride most trails centres on any bike. The limiting factors are the speed you want to ride at and the line you want to take. If you want to wobble around half pissed and full of coffee and cake then maybe a 29er is your perfect trail bike. If you want to blat down the downy bits as fast as you can, challenging your capabilities and nerve and that's what you drive the distance for, then the maybe the expensive bouncer is for you. Horses for courses. Personally I like to do both.
Evil Sov for the win 8)
personally I like to do both.
+ 1 million
does make for less trolling to admit it though 😀
Penny farthing guy, out side pedal down 😉
Genius, total genius
Nice one tazzymtb 😀
ahh bike for trail centres, erm think a hardtail is sufice.
Tazzy wtf is going on with all those gay hops? No need on 99% of em - just turn normally??
ralph-don't ask me I wasn't riding the bloomin bike! it was just posted as a lighthearted you don't need a 6" dual boinger to ride in the uk. I'm sure if i spent more than 30 seconds looking for a clip to illustrate it I may have found something more to the masses liking. Personally i rather liked it, not because it was niche or any of that bunkum, purely because it showed a person enjoying their riding on the bike they like in some lovely mountains.
Same as the lovely spokescycles big mountain day out photos on another thread also make me appreciate what a tip top thing mountain biking is.
god you lot are a bunch of miserable (sweary sweary swear swear swear) at times who just don't seem to appreciate how much fun bikes are, even if they don't fit into your narrow little perceptions of what mountain biking is.
Looks remarkably like a Titus Motolite just without the horst link rear end. Could be quite a nice fun ride.
The OPs original video - looks pretty buff to me - nothing to scare a fully rigid bike.
The transition looks Ok -if skill compensation's your thing 😉
When you say trail bike to me, I visualise a bike that will take me to the back of beyond, thus a SS rigid hardtail.
For a trail park i'd want one of those pogo stick things with lots of boing.