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I'll go with less bike but more money to buy one.


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 11:09 am
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Id normally say gearboxes but they haven't properly happened yet and to be honest I cant say how they ever become as light or as efficient as the derailleur. They will improve and be seen on more bikes of a certain type (DH / Adventure / winter bike etc) but I don't see them ever having market share over the derailleur. There is a tendency to assume that because something was invented decades ago there has to be a better option. Not sure that's true in this case. If they were invented today they would still be awesome...and people would be wondering why they have been carrying this heavy, inefficient box of gears around for so long.


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 11:41 am
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A really good GPS device. Or a flying pig. One of the two. My money’s on the pig.

This ^^
Although @Bez , have a look at the new Sigma Rox 12. Shit name (reminiscent of the 90's T-shirts...) but apparently one of the best out there.


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 11:52 am
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Survival bikes.


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 11:54 am
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Some sort of new standard, they haven’t messed about with for a bit


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 11:56 am
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Id normally say gearboxes but they haven’t properly happened yet and to be honest I cant say how they ever become as light or as efficient as the derailleur.

But that won't matter once they are combined with a motor. Nicolai already make an ebike with a Rohloff. I predict Nicolai Bosch and Rohloff to combine the whole thing into a Tiger Tank Bike that just smashes through the trees.


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 12:05 pm
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Forks that you can adjust the travel by turning a dial.


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 12:12 pm
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Modular-e bikes. The motor and battery can be optionally removed and replaced with standard BB and cranks.

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Focus Raven does this, IIRC.

Forks that you can adjust the travel by turning a dial.

Hmmm, now where have I seen that before?


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 12:12 pm
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A brief summary of the [i]improvements[/i] I've seen in my bike life -

frames: rigid -> suspension on the front -> suspension front and rear (of varying lengths)
headsets: screwy/quills -> ahead loose bearing 5 min life -> sealed last ages
tyres: skinny -> fat -> fatter -> slightly less fat
brakes: calipers -> Vs -> discs
wheels: bigger -> slightly smaller -> wider -> carbon
bbs: taper -> splined and various inbetween/thread/pushin/blah
gears: more rear -> less front -> 1 front (+ occassionally 1 rear)
gears: cables -> electronics
stems: shorter -> shorter
bars: flat -> riser -> wider -> wider (+grips wiv bolts)
seatposts: skinny -> fatter -> dropper
pedaling: normal effort -> engine to reduce effort
Just a bike -> a bike for every purpose + all that geometry stuff

(Hmm, I might do a animation of that sometime 🙂 )

So, what hasn't changed? Saddles? Rear mechs? new frame material? Not much on the actual bike is there...


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 1:05 pm
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eBoost plus+ MAX

I need to trademark that.


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 3:37 pm
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Blimey yeah, I forgot Boost. Still dunno what it's for.


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 4:15 pm
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Nicolia do an ebike with a gearbox


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 5:07 pm
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Following on from the trend towards rigid bikes... stuff to make them a little bit less rigid.

We've already seen that Redshift Flexstem reboot. Maybe someone will have another crack at damped seatposts. Suspension bars? Boing-y headsets? Mmmmm linear bearings...


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 5:08 pm
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Continuously Variable Transmission Ebikes


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 8:46 pm
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Survival bikes.

Hmm, stream water in one end of downtube and purified water out the other. Filter will be an arse to change but that can be dealt with.

Anymount holster to fit a Crosman pumper.

Runflat tyres.

Hub gears for reliability

Belt drive for silence

Fully rigid

Survival kit stashed in seat tube.

Poncho and bungies strapped to top tube.

Dynamo running to integrated USB port in the stem cap..

I think you could be on to something. Or I've over thought it. Either or.


 
Posted : 01/03/2019 8:57 pm
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Picking (or setting) the next big trend has got to include a large dollop of luck. I've no idea why Gravel took of like it did when hybrids had been doing the same sort of thing for years (but were never really seen as serious bikes) and one major manufacturer's attempt to launch Gnarmac (essentially what a gravel bike is now) some years ago, just didn't do it.

I noticed recently whilst pursuing bikes I can't afford on the Seven Cycles website that in addition to their [url= https://www.sevencycles.com/discipline/road-racing.php ]road bikes[/url] and [url= https://www.sevencycles.com/discipline/gravel-road.php ]Gravel bikes[/url] they also offer something they call [url= https://www.sevencycles.com/discipline/road-mid-reach.php ]Road Mid-Reach bikes[/url]; it appears that once the road becomes a bit too gritty for a road bike, but the grit's not gravelly enough for a full on gravel bike, you need a new type of bike (in titanium of course) to cope (when the gravel gets a bit pebbly and rock, they offer hardtails of course).

So the next big thing? Maybe it'll be Road Mid-Reach, but then again, maybe just maybe it'll be 'rent your own support vehicle and trailer' services for the serious cyclist allowing you to seamless switch between the 3 or 4 bikes now deemed necessary to complete rides you used to do on one.


 
Posted : 02/03/2019 10:20 am
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Continuously Variable Transmission Ebikes

already available using a nuvinci gearbox


 
Posted : 02/03/2019 10:43 am
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Ah but as illustrated above, just because it's been done doesn't mean it can't be the emperors new clothes!


 
Posted : 02/03/2019 10:49 am
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Much lighter e-bikes - mainly through reduced battery weight.
E-bikes with removable motor/battery so two bikes in one.
XC bikes with better geometry.

JP


 
Posted : 02/03/2019 10:52 am
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survival bike

Survival bike!

Just, spec as per above, add shoulder straps and you have a go anywhere Bug Out Bike.
If nobody else does it I'm making it a thing. I'll show you all!


 
Posted : 02/03/2019 10:28 pm
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Had an email from Trek today, apparently cyclings most important change in 30 years happens on the 20th March.


 
Posted : 02/03/2019 11:32 pm
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Survival bike!
Just, spec as per above, add shoulder straps and you have a go anywhere Bug Out Bike.
If nobody else does it I’m making it a thing. I’ll show you all!

I know it's probably a total PoS, but there's something oddly appealing about that bike.

Next big thing?

Realistically gonna be some e-bike development in battery size, motor power or both drip-fed in so the marketing juggernaut can keep on rolling.

Suspect there's a usable 'solid' tyre on the way at some point with weight offset by no more need for tough carcasses - logical conclusion of all the foam core systems?

Personally I'd love a back-to-basics movement - thinking about the philosophy behind the new Microshift wide range 9 speed system. No frills stuff that just works and is simple to use and maintain. Clearly that's not gonna happen from a making money PoV but I can dream.

I'm still carrying a torch for 26+, but I think that's passed us by now too.


 
Posted : 02/03/2019 11:53 pm
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I guess will never happen but I’d like to see some kind of braze on mounting standard for mudguards so you don’t have to zip tie direct to the frame. Basically more akin to MX/trials


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 12:08 am
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High single pivots.

Either with stupid idler set-ups or gearboxes. Or stupid idler set-ups paving the way for people to finally go, 'hey, a rear derailleur is a stupid thing to have on an off-road bike, isn't it?'


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 12:41 am
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Another attack on a standard. Seatposts have almost settled down now so that seems most likely, or another crack at steerers

Or I barely dare to say it, but handlebar outers.


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 1:02 am
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e-bikes for transport has to be the next big thing if you're talking macroscopic developments - don't really need a crystal ball for that tbh. The bikes are already here, but the attendent infrastructure, behaviour, culture change etc could be huge.

Commuting by bike in your work clothes, fast, in comfort, with sub-moderate levels of exertion would be absolutely game-changing for the majority of people. It's not really possible to do that on a normal bike, which disuades folk from cycling to work.


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 2:03 pm
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Why do the high pivots need to be single?


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 2:27 pm
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Do the Athertons still have links to Trek?

It could be that they have decided rip off Robot Bike Co. and offer custom frames using 3d printed lugs.


 
Posted : 04/03/2019 11:52 am
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I reckon unequal wheel sizes are due a comeback now the UCI's letting people race on them. They make a lot of sense for a lot of people on techy trail riding.

Sorry if not Luddite enough.


 
Posted : 04/03/2019 12:34 pm
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I reckon unequal wheel sizes are due a comeback now the UCI’s letting people race on them.

This.


 
Posted : 04/03/2019 12:37 pm
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But how are they supposed to market them if they can't call them 69ers?

7-and-a-half-9ers doesn't have the right ring to it.


 
Posted : 04/03/2019 1:04 pm
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Commuting by bike in your work clothes, fast, in comfort, with sub-moderate levels of exertion would be absolutely game-changing for the majority of people. It’s not really possible to do that on a normal bike, which disuades folk from cycling to work.

I flirted with the idea of replacing the car with an e-cargo bike - it would do everything up to about 10 miles each way fine (including ferrying the kids). I still might get one, one day!


 
Posted : 04/03/2019 1:14 pm
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How about remote controlled tyre pressure?

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Remote controlled chainstay length?

or

Remote controlled reach adjust?


 
Posted : 04/03/2019 1:23 pm
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Charging stations for ebikes outside trail centre cafes, so you can stop for pies and cake then go and burn it all straight off again!

I actually think it'll happen.


 
Posted : 04/03/2019 1:47 pm
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Remote controlled chainstay length?

Needs to automatically adjust based on speed.


 
Posted : 04/03/2019 1:50 pm
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But how are they supposed to market them if they can’t call them 69ers?

7-and-a-half-9ers doesn’t have the right ring to it.

Sounds like we need some new wheel sizes to make it work


 
Posted : 04/03/2019 1:53 pm
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Sounds like we need some new wheel sizes to make it work


 
Posted : 04/03/2019 2:06 pm
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Forks that you can adjust the travel by turning a dial.

Hmmm, now where have I seen that before?

I loved the u-turn forks 😕

Bottom brackets and seatposts don’t get messed with enough. New standards for both incoming!


 
Posted : 04/03/2019 2:18 pm
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I actually want a flat bar gravel bike….

Why hybrid when you could have monster-cross/fatter tyres?

When I got the Genesis Vagabond - immediately dubbed it an 'ATB' because it took me back to the 1989s when bikes did a bit of everything - ie rigid skinny steel frameset and a simply-maintained Deore setup. All reasons why I chose it. May even lose the curly bars yet. Have been umming and aaaing over that possibility for 2 years, (thinks - should really just buy some used bits and try it out, may actually have a 10 spd shifter in the spares...)

I've seemingly always had some sort of a steel 'justabike' since buying first ATB way back when. 1989 to 2019. It went: Dawes Tracker - Raleigh Apex - Raleigh M-Trax - Genesis Vagabond

But we all know the 'next big thing' is already here. e-mtbs. The very opposite of the justabike.


 
Posted : 04/03/2019 2:27 pm
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Bar ends.


 
Posted : 04/03/2019 2:29 pm
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Nicolia do an ebike with a gearbox

25kg, apparently, probable borrowed the singletrack forum scales!


 
Posted : 04/03/2019 4:22 pm
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Nicolia do an ebike with a gearbox

it isnt fully integrated though, is it? either a central gearbox with a hub based motor, or a central motor with an internal gear hub, I forget which?


 
Posted : 04/03/2019 4:27 pm
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it isnt fully integrated though, is it? either a central gearbox with a hub based motor, or a central motor with an internal gear hub, I forget which?

I looked after reading the post as I was aware of the E Rohloff they do and it does appear that there is also a version with a centrally mounted motor and gearbox.


 
Posted : 04/03/2019 4:59 pm
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I loved the u-turn forks

I loved travel adjust forks when my bike could hardly climb at full travel and descending was sketchy at short travel. I can't remember when that was last an issue though, since 2012 I've never felt the need for it.


 
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