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I thought it was a XC race frame? Why does it have iscg mounts? And why the ugly boxy chain stays?

**Is disappointed**


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 11:02 am
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Pic?

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This one?


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 11:04 am
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Yep.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 11:05 am
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Ah.

Someone has uploaded completely the wrong picture.

New scandal looks like this:-

http://www.shedfire.com/2011/10/12/woooh-new-scandal-29/

ps: ISCG on next version 😉


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 11:08 am
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I like the one in the shedfire link, looks "right"


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 11:17 am
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**Is now delighted**


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 11:17 am
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I've said it before and I'll say it again......HURRY THE CHUFF UP YOU CHUFFIN' CHUFFERS.That is all.......


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 11:17 am
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29ers are wrong. But that looks right. Very right.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 11:17 am
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Any plans to offer this as a full bike?


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 11:19 am
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Does that first pic mean there's going to be an aluminium 456?


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 11:19 am
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[i]an aluminium 456? [/i]

I suspect it's a long travel 29er frame - 26ers don't need the kinky seat tube.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 11:21 am
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@TUT
Thought you were against 29ers?


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 11:24 am
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Does that first pic mean there's going to be an aluminium 456?

That's something a previous designer left me that hasn't been continued, for now.

Any plans to offer this as a full bike?

Tom in "BikeBuildSpec" is working on it right now I'm sure.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 11:35 am
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@TUT
Thought you were against 29ers?

No not against, just didn't see the point until recently.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 12:09 pm
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Brant, whilst I have your attention I ride a 20" 26er Scandal, what size 29er should I get?


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 12:24 pm
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Brant, whilst I have your attention I ride a 20" 26er Scandal, what size 29er should I get?

19.5in probably.

How tall are you. Perhaps your 20in Inbred is wrong.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 12:27 pm
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No it fits like a glove, I'm 6'2"


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 12:31 pm
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C'mon - how much - and when?


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 12:33 pm
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C'mon - how much - and when?

From the shedfire link 😉

Woooh! New Scandal 29!
My new bike. First production sample of new Scandal 29. Production about 8 weeks off landing. £299 frame only


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 12:35 pm
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C'mon - how much - and when?

£299, 30th Nov.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 12:38 pm
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OK - I need to sell something.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 12:38 pm
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A kidney, you're only wee after a'.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 12:49 pm
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Hmmm looks very very nice but I'd also need to get new wheels, tyres, & forks to go with so for that reason...

I'm out 🙁


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 2:42 pm
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Hmmm looks very very nice but I'd also need to get new wheels, tyres, & forks to go with so for that reason..

Me too, but there comes a time when it has to be done.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 2:54 pm
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One for the FAQ?? How does head angle compare with a 26" frame? 72 deg on a 29er is like a . . . . .


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 3:01 pm
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Does it come with a headset reducer for 1 1/8 forks?


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 3:03 pm
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I'm sure On One will sell you one


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 3:04 pm
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Hmm. Carbon Kona Kilaeua 26er or Scandal 29er...?

And no-one please remind me that I haven't ridden an MTB for nearly 18 months.....


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 3:40 pm
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What sort of cable-guides will there be on the production frames?

And what kind of drop-outs?


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 3:54 pm
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Lookee nicee to me. Could be saving up the pennies in the NY for one of them. Looks nicer than the original to me for some reason.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 3:58 pm
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Just a thought Brant - is the Raw finsih simply polished alloy or is it lacquered?


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 4:11 pm
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and whilst you're here can't you do the dirty disco frame with mudguard/rack mounts. Would be in my basket in a jiffy if it had them.

it does say [i]'Much more versatile than exclusively a cyclocross race frame, the Dirty Disco is also perfect for a huge range of applications including commuting and touring.'[/i] then [i]No mudguard or rack mounts
[/i] which doesn't really add up.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 4:13 pm
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will it be a scandium alloy?


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 4:18 pm
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speaker2animals: it's anodized. I don't know how they do the finish but it looks good IRL.
chunkypaul: its aluminium alloy, but scandium alloy is mostly aluminium anyway.
Gary M: I think the point is that a true CX race bike will last a year, if you are lucky.
Mike: I have "Brant's" proto now. If you are in LW tomorrow or the pump track thing you can have a look.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 9:46 pm
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But how can the dirty disco be capable of touring without rack mounts? Just seems an obvious omission.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 9:52 pm
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[url=revelatedesigns.com/] http://www.revelatedesigns.com/ [/url] or P-clips?
I dunno. But I wouldnt want to use a carbon bike with disks to go touring.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 9:57 pm
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I dunno. But I wouldnt want to use a carbon bike with disks to go touring.

Why not?

Repair-ability? who here has actually broken a frame while touring?


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 9:59 pm
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Haha just (pre)ordered one.....just got to get some 15mm carbon niner forks and a king tapered headset now.
Anyone want a Racing Green 19.5 slot drop out one with on-one carbon forks and headset? (no cable stops and well ridden)


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 10:04 pm
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Any ideas when youll have any info re: geo on the website? or are we just supposed to guess 😆

Also, swapouts, but the pic shows the caliper on the seatstay? is this just the proto or are these swapouts not the same as the other swapouts?

Ta.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 10:05 pm
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Thanks Shaggy, but I'll be busting a lung In the Mendips.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 10:06 pm
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al: for a start I have a nice touring bike 🙂


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 10:07 pm
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I use carbon forks for touring. Am I going to die?


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 10:08 pm
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Rorschach - interested, email me.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 10:10 pm
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druidh: yes. might not be due to the forks.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 10:10 pm
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STATO: I dunno. I know both swapout frames I've got have seat stay disk mounts.
Kingtut: nay bother.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 10:13 pm
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Are you guys going to be doing the scandal as a built bike too?


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 10:18 pm
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looks a bit more like old prototype which was an amazing ride, so this new effort should be top banana. Any scandium or should it be called a sandal?


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 10:22 pm
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I'm sure they will do. I don't know the details.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 10:22 pm
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Any intention of doing an ebb version if anything at any point?


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 10:31 pm
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looks a bit more like old prototype which was an amazing ride, so this new effort should be top banana. Any scandium or should it be called a sandal?
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Lol brilliant - new model does look great though


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 10:37 pm
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You can sort of see why Brant ran away the first time really can't you 🙄 .
If you like it buy it,if it is'nt EXACTLY how YOU'D like it tough shizzle.
Can I have discount now Mr R??


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 10:40 pm
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As an owner of one of the original Scand-al frames may I ask how the bent seat tube adds to the design?
I'm guessing it gives more tyre clearance or a shorter wheelbase, just how much though & does the cable to the front mech still limit clearance?

Cheers.


 
Posted : 19/11/2011 7:51 pm
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To answer my own question I have now noted that the new design has downtube mounted cables & a bottom pull front mech, so I guess it's a shorter wheelbase thing.


 
Posted : 19/11/2011 8:00 pm
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Same geometry essentially.


 
Posted : 19/11/2011 8:28 pm
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Including wheelbase Brant?
If so then what is the point of the bent seat tube?

Cheers.


 
Posted : 19/11/2011 9:03 pm
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I use carbon forks for touring. Am I going to die?

Yes, of course you're going to die.

Unless you're the first real Scottish vampire, of course.


 
Posted : 19/11/2011 9:14 pm
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Is the seat tube angle the same too? 6'6" here and run the seat pretty high, I worry a bit about being far further over the back, and the wheel further forward?

Looks very nice though, glad you've done a raw one 🙂 Shame the tapered reducer headsets are all £50 instead of the £20 ones the old frame could run, still.


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 12:22 pm
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its aluminium alloy, but scandium alloy is mostly aluminium anyway.

*bites tongue*


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 1:15 pm
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its aluminium alloy, but scandium alloy is mostly aluminium anyway.

Can't help but feel you've missed the point there somewhat.

The new carbon frames are made out of coal apparently, coal is mostly carbon anyway.


 
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*bites tongue*

i did as well 😀 🙄


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 1:29 pm
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The new carbon frames are made out of coal apparently, coal is mostly carbon anyway.

Technicaly you could............

Coal -> SynGas -> Hydrocarbons -> Ethane -> Ethylene -> PolyEthylene -> Carbon fibre


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 1:57 pm
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"technical[b]l[/b]y"

Phew, close one.


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 4:00 pm
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Can't help but feel you've missed the point there somewhat.
The new carbon frames are made out of coal apparently, coal is mostly carbon anyway.

Ok I was being flippant but that's not really the same. I was (badly) gettIng at the fact that there are more important aspects of the design than <1% of Scandium in an aluminium frame.

Anyway, i rode the Scandal over the weekend. It's fun.


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 4:29 pm
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there are more important aspects of the design than <1% of Scandium in an aluminium frame.

Who said there wasn't? It was a fair enough question, I can't see the link between these two statements to be honest.

People still cling on to those old 853 Inbreds and scandium Scandals 🙂

Interesting to see Niner dropping scandium this year, it does make the Air 9 even more bonkers overpriced.


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 5:01 pm