[Closed] The future has 7 gears

Kind of frustrating that they've gone to all this trouble to make a something that does only 50% of the job people wanted it to do.

Kerching-ching!

The world's gone mad.

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thisisnotaspoon - Member
Yes, but you'd still not have the dishless rear wheel.

The X0 doesn't affect dishing either way, as it's still the same freehub width

The X0 doesn't affect dishing either way, as it's still the same freehub width

So you're absolutely sure no-ones bringing out 7 speed freehubs with less dishing?

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/DT-Swiss-7-Speed-Downhill-Hub-First-Look-sea-otter-2011.html

thisisnotaspoon - Member

So you're absolutely sure no-ones bringing out 7 speed freehubs with less dishing?

Not what I said. I said that the XO DH Freehub/cassette combination didn't affect dishing.

The entirely different hub, freehub and cassette in your link might.

Bear in mind that prototype was pre XX1 I'd be gobsmacked if there's not an uptodate XD style DH specific hub at DT waiting for release.

SRAM don't make many hubs so the fact there's none mentioned isn't suprising.

Would still need a different cassette though...

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That just seems bizarre "ooh look our new cassette is way too narrow, lets build an intricately machined massive spacer behind it" I don't know much about xd, but doesn't it all hang off the big sprocket? In which case couldn't they have not put the spacer there and asked someone to knock up a dish less hub with a mini xd body and bolt it onto that? Maybe include a removeable dropout side spacer for those with standard xd?

Makes sense to me 😐

Dhers don't need the bigger cogs on the cassette, especially when the market is going towards dinner plates.

Sram rather than make a select few for pro riders make enough to cover the costs of product and some profit.

Kind of frustrating that they've gone to all this trouble to make a something that does only 50% of the job people wanted it to do.

Dh bikes go down, the other 50% of the cassette in theory is for up. They have uplifts for that 🙂

Hope SS hub + 7 (or even 8 ) 10sp cogs + clutch mech + shifter + T/T ring = similar thing with a dishless rear wheel.

Dh bikes go down, the other 50% of the cassette in theory is for up.

Will my XT thumbies work with them?

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Don't think you get it. The point is to reinvent a technology that's been around for 20 years, in such a way that you can claim it as new IP and charge an effing fortune because every single piece has to be bought new from a custom range.

D0NK - Member

yes but they've freed up a load of space which could be used to reduce dish to get a stronger wheel but done bugger all with it, that is the "50%" argument - I think.

Least surprising thing ever, it's just like all those 150mm hubs with narrow flanges, that ended up being effectively the same as a 135mm hub with a bunch of spacers. They ended up selling the perception of strength without ever bothering to add it.

I can't wait for the new enduro 50mm travel fork and flex stem combo. Progress at last 😕

They ended up selling the perception of strength without ever bothering to add it.

The point is to reinvent a technology that's been around for 20 years, in such a way that you can claim it as new IP and charge an effing fortune because every single piece has to be bought new from a custom range.

doof_doof - Member
Hope SS hub + 7 (or even 8 ) 10sp cogs + clutch mech + shifter + T/T ring = similar thing with a dishless rear wheel.

Take a look at my photos one page 1. I managed to get 6 on the free hub. It might be possible to get 7 on there with a thinner spoke side spacer and half engagement of the dropout side sprocket.

I've got 7 9sp ones on mine and I've seen 8 10sp cogs fitted over on MTBR 😉

BBS - why such a limited range of gears? It seems possible to fit down to an 11T so why restrict yourself to the 15-25?

Very tempted to do this for the DH bike at some point if only because it's a bit more trick than standard.

It was to take some pressure off my shot knees and to extend the climbing ability of my SS. I don't need to go any faster downhill. I have enough gravity and lack of talent to help me in that regard. I could put a wider range of spread, but I like closer range cassettes.

I put a standard cassette spacer on the spoke side of the free hub because the mech looked VERY close to the spokes. A slight nudge and it would be bye bye mech and wheel. The amount of engagement that would have been on the dropout side again was dubious if I'd put the 7th on.

I'm a bit belt and braces TBH. Although I would like to see how others have managed to get 8x10 speed ones on there without any compromises.

I'd a 24inch, 7 speed dishless setup on my old Spesh Big hit DH, and a converted 26 inch dishless setup for the same bike (from Goldtech I think)...

Does that mean I was ahead of my time? Or does it simply mean another new standard to herald a fresh splurge of spending on new frames/wheels/shifters/blah.

It's getting preposterous now - the constant reinvention and reintroduction is tiresome, expensive and pretty much pointless. The entry point to 'real' mountain biking is getting daft too.

I've snapped more frames than wheels in my time. 36 spoked, well built wheels are tough as old boots and not insanely heavy either.