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The 'normal' Carn Ban Mor descent is ace as is the other one AJ showed me a few years ago
Other one? Surely not the boulder strewn zig zag path that runs parallel to the obvious route.
The only option I can think of is to drop down towards Loch Einich. Now that would be something.
Luke, 2 routes
1 - best one way/dropped off (You might get bike in bus boot) start here
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/idld.srf?x=118708&y=911528&z=120&sv=118708,911528&st=4&ar=y&mapp=idld.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=850&ax=118708&ay=911528&lm=0
follow dotted track W to white road heading south
2 - here is the one I was referring to http://www.streetmap.co.uk/idld.srf?x=117393&y=900193&z=120&sv=117393,900193&st=4&ar=y&mapp=idld.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=850&ax=117393&ay=900193&lm=0 E immed N beside loch/blue footprint, E + then SE on yellow road, dotted track W along coast
Thanks! Just had a quick look at those on the OS map - they look amazing.
but for trails, the raised wooden one in hertfordshire beats the rest for me
Good point grum - only ever done that once in the torrential rain but loved that descent from Parkamoor Farm.
Also Cut Gate is superb. Either direction from the top but I reckon down from the VERY top all the way down to Langsett might just pip the other direction, purely because its never ending!
Did someone mention Walna Scar. Was really nice at the weekend:
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There is a lot to be said for the last trail before the sun sets though, dosen't matter where it actually is. Maybee I should just ride at dusk?
gusamc - any pics?
Walked some bits of those.
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(The first few minutes of heavy snow riding flows much better in the dry!)
Followed straight after by this - [url=
sorry grum, I'm a luddite - on 35 and low quality, maybe luked will post a few
Gatescarth path in the lakes or Smallacombe or Bowermans on Dartmoor
The last three decents on the marin trail on a dry dusty summers eve never fails to put a grin on my face
Another one for the two descents in Torridon previously mentioned and the Devils staircase,especially good when there is a bit of ice on it. Any combination of descents from Spooky Wood to the Hub make me smile. Black Hill in the Pentlands when conditions suit, north or south sides are both good. And I've got a little bit of trail perfection near home that are always dry(ish), fast and great fun. And I can ride it at the start, in the middle or at the end of a ride.
The 'normal' Carn Ban Mor descent is ace as is the other one AJ showed me a few years ago
Other one? Surely not the boulder strewn zig zag path that runs parallel to the obvious route.The only option I can think of is to drop down towards Loch Einich. Now that would be something.
No it didn't head toward Loch Einich. We went to the top of Sgurr Gaoith then doubled back and headed down. I doubt I'd be able to find the trail but there was some ace rocky stuff traversing the hill, then some off piste multiple line choice stuff, some peaty loamy singletrack and then a gravelly blast at the bottom. It brought us out on the road to Achlean, I'm not sure which descent I'd prefer, the one I've just described has more variety although there aren't really many bad ways to descend 700 metres 😀
luked2 - that's the Reinigeadal loop that starts just north east of Tarbet (ferry port) on Harris. There's a route description of both the routes gusamc is talking about in the brown Bike Scotland Trails Guide.
Reinigeadal is a fabulous route. I did it with my SO - being a fair weather cyclist she didn't appreciate it in the way I did. Especially the 1000ft push up to final descent. I have pictures but I just looked at them and they're very disappointing. Didn't take many photos though I have some unedited video still on the tape.
I've done a few long easyish rides with Miss K this year - Glen Kinglass, Gaick, Jura etc. but I had a week in November where I rode with a mate and we upped the game a bit:
Saturday we did Kinlochleven - Glen Coe - Devil's Staircase
Monday: Glen Clova - summit of Broad Cairn - Loch Muick - Capel Mounth.
Wednesday: Five hours sauntering around the Pentlands
Friday: Glentress black (my first time around)followed by red.
Each of those rides was brilliant in a different way but if I could hurry back it would be to the Devil's Staircase... or Reinigeadal.
Though I'd like to think that I haven't yet ridden the best trail - there's always something enticing me somewhere new.
Agree on a lot of the Scottish contenders so far:
Torridon - Coire Lair to Achnashellach, Annat descent
Glencoe/KLL - Devil's Staircase and Ciaran Path
Carn Ban Mor
Capel Mounth
I'd also add:
Morven/Morrone to Braemar
Lochnagar to Glen Callater
Kilbo Path
Lairig Ghru from Corrour Bothy to Glen Luibeg
Cam Bealach to Loch Lochy
Ciaran Path variations
Torridon - Beinn Damph descent to Torridon Hotel
There are many more I'd like to ride this year - so many plans, so little time!
I'll keep Mid Wales and the Beacons to myself. The Dan yr Ogof Track and the Tywi track are absolutely rubbish. Stay away.
Penmachno - a small Welsh trail (3-5hrs) managed by the local community.
A red route but that's not the 1/2 of it.
It's more like a footpath trail through mostly mixed woods and across open ground.
Only a car park and some tremendous decents and lung-busting middle ring climbs, more safe air than I'm capable of anywhere else that I've ridden.
Not for the unfit though as the faster you ride it, the better it flows and the more it pays you back in spades.
Battle between (I cannot decide)
Smith's Combe
Mark of Zorro
Marin final descents
Bits of The Raven / Gorlech when I wasn't too scared to enjoy it
But I havn't ridden in Scotland or Yorkshire yet
Mark of Zorro nice but over rated in comparison to some of the other contenders, as is the Marin. My top 3 are (in no particular order)
Carn Ban Mor
Lairig Ghru to Rothiemurchus. (The traverse from the lodge to get to it though is pants)
Golspie Black.
Honourable mentions go to Laggan Black and Cadair Idris.
Devils Staicase then Blackwater Dam down to Kinlochleven. Nasty.
Golspie. Nice.
For me.... on a summer's evening.
Lecki Hill, Cheltenham.
start at trig point, hammer along the flat whoopey bits, ignore turn for the DH run.
Carry on along wide grassy section- re-group chat with mates.
Then do the rocky path which eventually spits you out down Sandy Lane. Blast down to the bottom. Sorry for not knowing proper path names!
Bit of everything in there.
Then turn round and try to clean the whole lot riding back up again!
The Malverns, but everyone stay away - they're crowded enough already.
Love the Hidden Valley / Snap, Crackle and Pop.
The Beast at CyB.
the cheeky descent that starts at the end of my road is a beauty.
it's got everything; fast bits, twisty bits, rocky bits, roots, drops, jumps, trees, lawnmowers, a bit of graveyard, flat corners, banked corners, off-camber corners, and loads of line choices...
life is good.
Not ridden it yet (pushed up it) but the new trail I discovered near the end of my road last weekend looks pretty decent. Starts off by riding through a cemetary - I'm off to hell for this one!
Karnali
Re the Newlands Pass ride
Ride out from Crag Houses via Sail Beck. Climb and descend to what was the old purple house. Sad to see it got demolished last year as it was a bit of a landmark.
Return is via High Moss, Crag Hill and Whiteless Pike.
Be prepared for a short section of airy scrambling (about 5 minute carry) on the way to Whiteless Pike.
The descent off Whiteless Pike is superb. Definitely one to drop the saddle and mixes slow speed tech with fast grassy descents and some nice steep sections. Classic Lakeland riding really. Not a ride for a newbie or if you lack a little in technical confidence.
I can’t but help get the feeling that there are an awful lot of cheeky trail descents in the Lakes which would qualify as classic descents but I’ve still to ride them.
Has anyone ridden off Grizedale Pike? There is a very obvious line down it but I’ve not walked it so don’t know how rideable it would be.
Cheers
Sanny
I think this thread needs more pics.
[b]WARNING[/b] - images of sunshine and dry trails below!!!
Me on Headless Chicken:
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Mid-week ride on Cut Gate on one of the hottest days of last summer. An excellent trail, made better (?) by the 'sanitisation'.
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Oh and one more... in the spring/summer when its all dusty and hard, some of the sections at Dalby are truly amazing if you attack them flat out:
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In the winter when its a draggy rutted mess, its rubbish.
I like the idea of having a favourite 200m of trail; mine is Gasgale Gill in the Lakes, it's ****er of a climb up to Coledale Hause, but in the middle of two hell-ish push/carrys there's a cheeky bit of hidden singletrack climb that make sit all worthwhile.
Favourite short ride is Barrow, from Uzzicar, up the mining track between Barrow and Causey Pike, left onto Barrow summit, then downt he grass track to Braithwaite. About the most fun you can have on a bike with only an hour to throw at it.
Favourite long ride; Helvellyn, coming up from Thirlmere, down via Raise and Sticks Pass.
Hardest thing I've ridden; Causey Pike. Brilliant.
Sanny
Best way off Grisedale pike IMO is the path to Hobcarton end, its got some great steep singletrack on it. Sleet How way you can't ride the top section its borderline scramble at the top, the rest is good and rideable, but busy. Not that keen on the wall path into whinlatter bit boring its just straight and steep and can be boggy. Dropping off to Coledale is OK but nowt special really. There's a easy'ish way up of the top of the south loop of the Altura if your going up. 😉
I agree on Whiteless that's a cracking descent as is Robinson to Buttermere village and Ullock Pike. My current fave is from Sprinkling tarn to Styhead then down Stockley bridge, its just epic and constantly technical.
anc, agree with all of the above. The descent out of Coledale is good, but you can get better, love Wandope and Whiteless Pike. Not done Robinson to Buttermere or Ullock Pike, but I might have a look on your recommendation.
Another plus 1 for the Hobcarton route off Grisedale Pike - we came down there last night funnily enough. Here's the route Sanny (the blue line):
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Maybe not the most "cool" suggestion to make, but the last few sections of Follow the Dog, from tankslapper onwards are some of my favourite bits of trail to ride. Ideally on a warm Friday evening in the fading light when everyone else has gone home.
DaveyBoyWonder,
is the "headless chicken" in your pic in Elland woods?
Yep, thats what I said, Headless Chicken 😉
Anc, paulrockliffe and parkedtiger
Cheers for the local knowledge. Is it just me or is the best riding in Scotland and the Lakes? And why is it that some of the best stuff in the Lakes is cheeky? Ha! Ha!
I'm thinking that it might make for a big day out to link up from Newlands onto Grizdale but then it would have to be special to miss out on the Whiteless Descent.
Ullock Pike - have you ever looked back at the top section off the summit and thought that in that rarest of ways, it looks even steeper from below? marvellous!
If you're after a good long ride in that area, give this a bash:
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It has absolute DEATH written all over it. Hard work mind.
Ullock Pike - have you ever looked back at the top section off the summit and thought that in that rarest of ways, it looks even steeper from below? marvellous!
I always find it's the drop off to the right that's really distracting 🙂
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Sanny to do Rodinson we basically follow the first 2/3's of the Newlands round. Which is little town, onto Maiden moor, High spy, then drop into Dalehead tarn(another great down), carry onto Dalehead(tough) then across littledale Edge to Robinson. Then from buttermere up Sail beck and down Rigg Screes. That takes us 4hrs roughly, if you try and add into that it'll get big. One option would be to go up gasgale then carry up onto grisedale and down Hobcarton, but thats a fair old carry at the end of a tough day .OR, if you went coledale > Whiteless way you'd be heading in the wrong direction but you could join Sail beck from Whiteless breast. I recon either detour would add at least 2.5 hrs to the ride.
Paulrockliffe
Now that is a ride! I bet you'd need three shredded wheat in the morning for that!
Sanny
Yes, but you have the flexibility of dropping one, two or three mountains at the end if you get too tired, it's one I've got planned for a trip in June or July time.
Just realised all the old threads are back after the site maintenance, thought I'd stir this one up again!.
Agree with the Torridon - coire Lair - achnashellach - Coulags - Annat. Brilliant, the Coire Lair in particular, mind blowing stuff. Had a cracking ride on Arran at the weekend, great day. 2 or 3 awesome descents, combined with amazing scenery, great company, unseasonably mild weather (it's always mild on the east coast of the island) and some Arran blonde ale to finish. Sweet.
Hi Nobeer, on Arran in May/June, any chance of some dets
Cheers
Ben lomond is illegal to ride?
Not as far as I know. Loads of people ride it and the same access laws should apply to it as everywhere else in Scotland. Maybe the landowner argued it was illegal before the Countryside Reform Act came in but not now.
As for the best Trail in the UK? I've not ridden enough to say really but I like my local trails because I can keep tweaking them and practising to go faster and I can ride them from my house. I'm suspecting Ben Lomond could become one of my favourites when I ride it for the first time this summer. Everyone says how good it is.