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I've recently increased travel up front from 120mm to 140mm, actual increase of 20mm axle to crown length, and only a 40g weight increase.. I've removed 15mm headset spacers from under the stem to maintain a similar bike position which works for me.

The bike now seems a little sluggish and vague. Is this due to the change in head angle?


 
Posted : 21/01/2009 10:38 am
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Yes its the extra length, if you cant get used to it a shorter stem may help.


 
Posted : 21/01/2009 10:45 am
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Sluggish and vague? Or stable and not "twitchy"?
Steering will be slower. You did the right thing by dropping the stem.
Might be worth moving saddle forward a bit as well.


 
Posted : 21/01/2009 10:46 am
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I hear voices too but that is 'head angels'


 
Posted : 21/01/2009 11:02 am
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How will moving the saddle forward / getting a shorter stem help ... more weight forward??


 
Posted : 21/01/2009 11:37 am
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Slackening the head angle will not only alter the steering feel, but will also slacken the seat angle - which will move your centre of mass slightly backward.

- Shorter stem will speed up the steering and move your centre of mass further forward.

- Moving the saddle forward will again move your centre of mass slightly further forward.


 
Posted : 21/01/2009 12:10 pm
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Ah I see, i'll try moving the saddle forward slightly, my stem is already pretty short at 90mm for XC riding.


 
Posted : 21/01/2009 1:22 pm
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90mm really isnt very short.


 
Posted : 21/01/2009 1:36 pm
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Not wanting to confuse matters but wont a shorter stem make you sit more upright and bring your weight further back still?

But I would definately get a shorter stem if I were you.

I consider my 90mm stem long and could really do with a 70mm one.


 
Posted : 21/01/2009 1:39 pm
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"Shorter stem will speed up the steering and move your centre of mass further forward"

Speed up steering I get, if only from personal experience, but surely a shorter stem (if anything) moves weight back slightly. Have I missed something?


 
Posted : 21/01/2009 1:42 pm
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Argh. My bad, I can't believe I wrote that! Yes, short stem shifts the weight further back, easier to lift the front end but front end more likely to lift unintentionally on climbs, speedier steering. Phew.


 
Posted : 21/01/2009 1:51 pm