[Closed] TdF Stage 21 - Around The Arc-de-Triomphe [Spoilers]

First things first.
Huge thanks to Realman for putting these posts together each day. Not a single stage missed, setting a high bar for yourself next year.

Looking forward to tonight's stage, hopping and crossing my fingers for a 5th win for Cav however it is a tough one to call. I think Kittel may take it.

I know Cav's been beatable this year, but often because his lead out hasn't been there to set him up properly. Should be no excuse for them not being there today, and if they are and set him up straight I still can't see anyone taking it off him on a wide straight sprint unless someone goes dirty again.

I love this one, all the riders kick back and chat all the way round, like a great big social ride.

+1 on the thanks to RealMan. 🙂 Great that everyone understands it as well, we've done away with the situation a few years ago where there were dozens of TdF threads every day (and a few spoilers). Top work sir!

Hmm, tonight - Cav will be SO fired up tonight and when he is that's usually when he wins. The stage where he was beaten by Kittel was totally unexpected for him, the look of disbelief he gave as a rider came from behind him to beat him said it all - that's never happened before. This time he'll know what he's up against and be ready for it, no-one knows the Champs-Elysees sprint lines and timing better than Cav.

Shame I'm not in London, I reckon the place to watch this will be either Look Mum No Hands or the Rapha Shop on Brewer Street, the atmosphere in both will be amazing!

Cav owns the Champs, it has to be him!

Froome, epic achievement and done in style (both on and off the bike.) I hope he gets the recognition he deserves. Chapeau!

RealMan, many thanks for kicking these off each day, great threads.

Thanks for the threads RealMan. I know you were looking for a topless photo of Froome for man crush assessment, so if it hasn't been posted already, here you go:

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Real Man. Thanks.
The threads have been a very useful quick find reference as I juggle working from a hotel room in Azerbaijan and keeping up with le tour each day.Thank you. I really mean it.

Many thanks Realman. Great posts.
It's been a magical few weeks. Great too see another Sky/ 'British winner'. Froome's dominant display on Ax 3 domaines was similar to last year at Planches des belles filles where they destroyed everyone early doors and then held on to the jersey for the remainder of the race.
Was great to have 5 stage wins by Brits this year.
We want six.
We want six.
We want six.
(Don't even care if stannard/ millar/ thomas/ kenneugh gets it in a break).

If we get any more bromance for you RM we will ask for one of you topless 😀

Chapeau and whats more this year you got them all out before the stage actually started 😉

Its good to follow the tour on here with an informed audience and it helps signify the Summer so top show
Cracking tour and some of the big mountain days were awesome
Agree Quintanna got be a player at GC level an one would assume Vueletta first given the climbs there?

Cav hopefully but this is the first Paris stage where i have not been confident for him

+1 on the thanks to RealMan. Great that everyone understands it as well, we've done away with the situation a few years ago where there were dozens of TdF threads every day (and a few spoilers). Top work sir!

Agreed in full!

It has to be Cav, doesn't it? Surely.....Surely!

Thanks realman. I've headed here every day for my morning tour digest. Good work.

I think today will tell us just how much of threat Kittel really is to Cav.

Cheers for all the threads Realman, you have without a shadow of a doubt increased my enjoyment of the tour this year. It was a joy reading 'em everyday.

Come on Cav!!!

Can someone please tell me when the TV coverage starts today, I'm abroad at the mo and struggling to work out the UK time

but why [i]do[/i] they still pin numbers on their jerseys?

All this money thrown at R&D and aero benefits and marginal gains and trick team buses and they can't print up some jerseys with a number on the back. Not even on the time trial kit... is there a rule that says the white number patches have to be stuck in the 70s?

So this is a thing that happened - not sure which stage it was on though! Recreating Watson's jump over the TdF 10 years on 🙂

http://www.pinkbike.com/video/323396/

Top Top posting Realman... Many thanks

I'm feeling a bit like Contador this morn in the velogames ....The Blackest Cats have done a great impression of JRod and have put in a great last effort.... well played

A Sagan win this eve would help the Fantasy Team, as he doesn't feature in The Blackest Cats... But c'mon some things are far more important....

GO CAV

In the road.cc league its super close at the top there as well... but gotta feeling I'm gonna be the bridesmaid in that one as well.

I'll join in in the RealMan luv in, superb effort Sir.

Tonight will be hilarious, Golden Fleece?? Uber bling init.

Proper TdF, proper.

I think Kittel is faster. Cav has loads of experience and huge skill and excellent judgement. But this is not a finish for winging it. Teams need to be slick and well organised and this is the problem. It's an easy one to balls up. 5 wins in a row would be amazing but Argos are strong. ,

But what an amazing tour. Froome was really impressive and fully deserves the win. Although I think he sometimes needs to calm down and let others do the chasing. Some amazing victories. Particularly enjoyed Bakelants' win.

Well done Realman.

Allez Cav. Today he needs Renshaw.

I know Cav's been beatable this year, but often because his lead out hasn't been there to set him up properly. Should be no excuse for them not being there today, and if they are and set him up straight I still can't see anyone taking it off him on a wide straight sprint unless someone goes dirty again.

You missed the one where Kittel jumped out from behind Cav in full flight and claimed the stage then?

It'll be an interesting one if all goes to script.

I predict a big crash (probably caused by Sagan doing a wheelie), and Tommy Voeckler gurning his way through the bodies to take the stage win.

You've done a first class job RealMan, chapeau to you sir.

Hoping for a Cav win but not 100% confident, but unpredictability and surprises are what have made this a properly exciting, cracking tour.

Vive le Tour!

@butcher: I think Cav was complacent that day and eased off just before the line, presuming everyone else was at least a bike length behind. Hence the sideways look of shock. If he'd kept going full gas he would've won. That's not to say Kittel hasn't got a very good kick!

Sat in parc moncleu about to head down to the champs for a wander aboit and watch the bankers ridiing up and down pretending to be the peloton ......

Can someone please tell me when the TV coverage starts today, I'm abroad at the mo and struggling to work out the UK time

4:30 ITV

Both BST

Splendid, can watch the intro on ITV then switch to Eurosport for the proper coverage avoiding those two buffoons on ITV.

standing ovation for realman, good work sir.

loving the late finish, ride this afternoon and back in time to watch.....

c'mon cav

Whilst we're doing a bit of back slapping, congrats to (mostly) all the posters too for helping to avoid descending each thread into the usual pointless debate about doping. Or for that matter debating whether Froome is somehow "not properly British" (FFS!) For that I am grateful.

Now lets get on with the racing... come on Cav 🙂

+1 for mrblobby.

I've been impressed both by the daily round up (thanks realman) and by the lack of derailment of these threads.

Has STW finally grown up?

Now let me see that golden tunic!

Recreating Watson's jump over the TdF 10 years on

wow! was that 10 years ago? did he crash like Dave Watson though?

thanks to RealMan for these threads

really really really hope Cav wins.

Thanks Realman, top threads.

Quick question, anyone know what time , roughly, the finish time is?

Oh and come on Cav!!

Finish at 9.45 approx

ITV4 Now.

@ctk that finish estimate is French time

@realman - many thanks

Cav's looked a little off from his best, inc on the intermediate sprint yesterday. Its going to be interesting.

Massive respect for Froome and the way he's won it. Next year is going to be very interesting. What will Wiggins do ?

Bit of a crime as I'm in paris but cannot make the Champs Elysee tonight 🙁

Cav's looked a little off from his best, inc on the intermediate sprint yesterday. Its going to be interesting.

Cav was ill early on in the Alps, hope he's recovered OK. And that final intermediate sprint, they were just messing around cos everyone knew Sagan has it won.

Right, let's get this show on the road! ITV4 now then I'll switch to EuroSport later. 🙂

Just to add to the thanks to RealMan, chapeau sir.

I'm going to stick my neck on the line and plump for a Cav victory as I reckon he'll have come out of the mountains with more energy than Kittel and has just that bit more experience on the champs elysees.

I've also noticed in the velogames league headfirst and I appear to share the same thoughts regarding team jersey and name. I've finished very far down though 🙂

Ell tell, great minds think alike 😉 Although my team was clearly greater than yours 😆

Ooh, Sean Yates is commentating on EuroSport 2.
He sounds a bit drunk! 🙂

Is it me or is Cav looking a bit portly round the waist!? (For a pro cyclist coming off the toughest race of the season)

Be good to see Cav maintain his run of wins in Paris and he has the experience albeit with a different lead out this year but he knows where he needs to be coming round the final bend; other teams will have studied the line into that bend but Cav will want his train to be there first.

Cheers for another excellent effort this year RealMan. Same time, same place next year? 8)

Sagan's beard? 😯

And thanks realman!

Sat here musing about the tour and am wondering if there Have there been any black pro cyclists!? I can't remember any.

Gregory Bauge

Looks like Contador's just had news of another surprise bike weigh in 🙂

http://en.teameuropcar.com/cyclisme/teams/europcar/teamcenter.shtml

RealMan should get a special jersey for his great work with these threads.

Tommy Voeckler has not scored a single point in my fantasy league team. I know he's not been in decent shape, but he normally shows his geurny face at some point in the mountains. I've seen very little of him.

Gregory "Never tested positive" Bauge

FTFY

[quote=CaptJon ]RealMan should get a special jersey for his great work with these threads.
Or at least a photo of one 😉

Drink-driving laws appear to be quite relaxed on the final day of the TdF! 😉

Quick question. What time (UK) do you think they'll come into paris? I'm at my mum's at the moment and wondering whether to drive home to Bristol

Quick question. What time (UK) do you think they'll come into paris? I'm at my mum's at the moment and wondering whether to drive home to Bristol

95km to go at 6.30pm (now) so 2hrs til the finish and about an hour or so til they actually arrive in Paris.

Official finish estimate is 8.45 UK time, as mentioned earlier in the thread

They are going a lot quicker than normal though for the parade so it looks a good bit earlier this (first ever) evening.

Thanks for these threads RealMan - have really appreciated them over the past three weeks. They've become part of my morning routine (especially work mornings). Wonder what I'm going to read now...

Cheers again,

Rich

Paris!
Bring it on! 10 laps starts now. 🙂

Cycling history about to be made. C'est magnifique!

This is brilliant!

And great work Realman, thanks for the threads.

That shot of them going around the Arc de Triomphe was pretty special.

Paris looks great doesn't it.

When is Jens due to go off the front? 😆

Bloody love le tour

Bugger, Cav's punctured, that'll be one hell of a chase back on!

Really? ITV4 are on adverts ffs!

he's back in the peleton, dont know what the panic was, there is 50k left

Didn't something similar happen last year?

Fortunately, the chase was done on the downhill section so yeah, he got back pretty quick.

Didn't something similar happen last year?

He dropped back to the team car one year to change his wheels to deeper sections I think.

Good to see Millar in the break!

Hope he has not t blown his legs

Does anyone know is the Champs Elise is a smooth road surface or not?

Did I see Quintana wearing polka? Why not white.?

Good to see Millar in the break!

He's been great this year, seems to be really enjoying it for sake of it too...

It's tar maced over cobbles and pretty rough at 60kph

buzz-lightyear - Member
It's tar maced over cobbles and pretty rough at 60kph

And what are the curb stones made from?

Surface = granite setts (cobbles).
Quintana has both but KoM is more senior award.

And what are the curb stones made from?

Stone. 🙄

😉
OK, the main road is (very worn) tarmac over cobbles, the edging is smooth granite hence why, where possible, they'll ride right on the dge to get a slightly smoother ride. Although you do then risk clipping a pedal on the kerb edging.

The non-Champs bits (through the tunnel etc) is all normal tarmac.

Did I see Quintana wearing polka? Why not white.?

polka beats white

Spot the lucky posters who don't have to watch ITV4 and listen to details of the road surface on every lap 😉

Stooooopid amounts of ads on BES though... 😐

There was a chance to see the road surface up close just now 😀

Stooooopid amounts of ads on BES though...

But on the plus side, Carlton Kirby doesn't feel the need to remind me that it's the 100th edition of the TdF every 10 seconds like Paul Sherwen does.

I'm flipping between the two depending on ad breaks.

No, but the BES commentators have the demeaner of my Dad, sitting in a chair going on about people who behave in a way they don't like, which after three weeks I am REALLY bored of. Either way, muting and unmuting each window gets me through, and David ****ing Millar GO ON LAD!

I know he won't get it, but he clearly just loves riding so much at the moment.

I'm watching ITV4, and every time they mention the road surface I have a drink.

....I'm leathered.