[Closed] Summer Tyre Combo......what do you run?

maxxis highroller xc 2.1 on the back and the usual wtb wierwolf 2.3 ont front, seems to be a good combo for me in the peaks. FWIW the minions come up very small IME.

2.1" Rocket Rons, or when it's properly dry a 2.1" Furious Fred on the back, go for the faster tyre on the back, not necessarily narrower.

Racing Ralph on the back Nobbly Nick on the front, fast, grips well, just works for me.

Maxis Highr Rollers

In the winter I change them to Maxis High Rollers.

2.1 Small Block 8s front and rear. Griptastic!

Same as Winter, Autumn and Spring.

2.25" Advantage on the front, 2.25" Aspen on the rear. Marvelous combo - fast everywhere, plenty of cornering grip.

Winter can see another Advantage go on the back, but it depends where I'm riding, the Aspen is surprisingly versatile.

I think it massivly depends on your riding. On the bigger bikes I used to stick with a 2.35 High roller all year round.

However on my XC bike I change the tyres a bit as it's all about speed and efficiency etc... Maxxis 2.1 Aspens front and back.

2.1 SB8's as well great tyres.

Slight thread hijack - On-one are selling Maxxis Ignitor 2.3 and Kenda Nevegal 2.1 for 14.99 each. Anyone any comments on these tyres as 'all-rounders?' Is the Nevegal a large 2.1?

Is the Nevegal a large 2.1?

Does rather depend what you compare it to, but yes it is among the largest 2.1"s.

Should have clarified...Both bikes are HT's set for XC/general playing about on.

Peter; are the small blocks really that grippy?

2.1 SmallBlocks here. Rode MachX & Tarw at CyB last weekend, loads of grip. Very impressed. Come up nice & big also, as big as some "2.2" tyres I've had. Ran them at about 38psi & no pinch flats on all them Welsh rocks. Local for me is Cannock's Monkey trail. They're ok on that, fine where its hard but they are a bit sketchy where its loose. That said my 2.1 Nev & BlueGroove struggled sometimes.
Planning to leave the SB8's on until things get mushy again.
Very impressed with them. Practically zero rolling resistance has you barrelling into corners too fast sometimes.
Saved a pound in weight when I swapped from 2.35 Nev/BlueGroove to the SB8's.

I have 1.95 WTB exiwolfs on the back, and either a 2.1-2.35 nobby nic, kenda bluegroove or maxxis highroller on the front of my SS and XC HT in the summer. In winter trailrakers.

FS has highrollers F&R in all weathers.

Peter; are the small blocks really that grippy?

I think so. To me they're like a motorbike tyre - Rounded profile and the same grip all the way over to the edges. I find it seems like I can lean a bike right over and the grip just stays the same. No big edge knobbles to flex. 🙂

what about cornering on loose stuff e.g. sandy trails like in some areas of teh peak or even woburn etc?

Tis very sandy in this part of the world - so as above keen to hear how they perform on looser stuff.

Currently:

Sauswerwind S Works 1.8" rear
Nobby Nic 1.8" Evo front

Both pumped up to a million PSi. Rolltastic!

Schwalbe Rocket Ron - Front
Racing Ralph - Rear
Tubeless

Fast .... with GRIP

Aspen on the front and an Advantage on the rear, although thinking about switching to a Crossmark on the rear

Ran them at about 38psi & no pinch flats on all them Welsh rocks

I'd bloody well hope not!

BigAirNig, why the Ralph? Rons are lighter, yet grippier, the only reason I can really see to run Ralphs is that they're slightly tougher with a stiffer carcass. Why not put a Ron, or even a Fred on the back?

what about cornering on loose stuff e.g. sandy trails like in some areas of teh peak or even woburn etc?

It's sorta loamy round here. It gets dusty in summer, but not sandy as such. To be honest, I'd use them anywhere. They'll be on for Bikefest (Unless it rains) and it's fast and a bit rocky there. Once I find a tyre I like I tend to stick to it. 🙂

I think people tend to think no knobbles = no grip, which aint necessarily so. 🙂

How robust are the Ron's? looking at running a 2.4 on the front tubeless on a stan's arch but was worried about the stiffness of the sidewalls?

They're not that tough.

I run my 2.1s at 25-30psi without any problem, but I'm only 10.5 stone. They do squirm more than some, and they wear out pretty fast.

But... they're very light and grip very nicely. My favourite all-purpose tyre.

njee20 - Member

They're not that tough.

I run my 2.1s at 25-30psi without any problem, but I'm only 10.5 stone. They do squirm more than some, and they wear out pretty fast.

But... they're very light and grip very nicely. My favourite all-purpose tyre.

Hmmm... I'm over 2 stone heavier so I'm not sure they'd suit. I usually run 2.25 snakeskin ralph on the rear that works well so could try one on the front but I'm not sure I've got enough skill for the lowered levels of grip from the minion I've got at the moment (you've seen me ride njee20 - it's not a pretty sight!).

Michelin mountain dry2. Cheap from on one. Roll fast and surprisingly grippy. I was a tyre changing sceptic before I ran these summer specific tyres. I can now see the point in not running mud x's all year now 🙂

Well the Ron is a slightly faster, grippier, but more flimsy tyre than the Ralph, so really it depends on what you want out of it. I think they're well worth a look! I don't think you'd have any problems with them squirming if you're fine with other Schwalbes.

2.25 Nobby Nic up front and a 2.1 Racing Ralph out back

Maxxis High Roller 2.35 Front

Maxxis Aspen 2.1 Rear

High Rollers F&R Autumn to Spring.

winter; Minion F + R
summer; Minion F, Crossmark R

low rolling resistance but lots of grip on the front in turns/descents.

2.25 Nobby Nic on front and currently a 2.1 smart sam on the back.

Ummed 'n' ahhed about small block 8's but have a feeling they would be rubbish in cannock's dunes. Does anyone go up there regular and use them??

Running those michelin dry 2's on both bikes, bit sketchy when it gets damp, but fast as hell on dry dusty trails. At £9.99 an end, you can't go wrong...

2.2 Conti Racekings on my HT at the mo, best dry / packed conditions tyres i've used once you realise just how much grip they have on the front - a lot more than you'd think from looking at them. low pro tred doesn't squirm or flex, they roll really fast too.

njee20 - the Ralph reportedly rolls better as a rear, but used the Ron up front for cornering grip .....

One of those eternal searches for what's best in which situation and taking advice from others who have tried combo's.

I didn't go for a Fred on the rear as it's seldom dry enough, often enough to keep one on there - this is English weather we're riding in !! I couldn't be arsed to change it all the time, so went for what I hoped would be a good compromise of weight/rolling/grip etc for british summer in different parts of the UK, for rides when I go away ......

2.3 nevegal F, 2.3 sb8 R. Fast and goes where I point it.

SB8 really are a highly overrated tyre when it comes to grip. Late braking into corners is not encouraged and overall not a good all-round "ragging it" tyre. They do grip well sometimes, but not consistently. Fast & loose off camber stuff us where they often come unstuck. *

Best compromise I've found is the Nobby Nic (Front) and Racing Ralph (Rear). Good enough for 3 seasons and the ralphs are almost as fast as SB8's. Nobby Nic has some tenacious grip for leaning into corners too.*

Not cheap, but worth it.*

*All in my very honest and humble opinion of course

😀

2.3 Speed King front and rear, 33 & 38 psi respectively, just over 12 stone of me. Roll fast, seem to be grippy enough. I think I'll drop the pressure a bit when it's wet.

2.25 60a Advantage on the front and 2.25 60a Crossmark on the rear in the summer. Either 2.25 60a Advantage or Bonty MudX 2.0 both ends the rest of the year, ground depending. Best combos I've found so far. Want to try Rubber Queens but I'd need to sell a kidney.

benman - Member

Running those michelin dry 2's on both bikes, bit sketchy when it gets damp, but fast as hell on dry dusty trails. At £9.99 an end, you can't go wrong...

unless its damp eh? 😉

"Is the Nevegal a large 2.1?"

It's an accurate 2.1. Which means much the same thing, many brands undersize terribly. Kenda own a ruler.

I like the small block a lot but I didn't like it on the front, not that it was terrible but I found it confidence sapping, lots of very minor protests and slides which never came to anything but which felt like they might. Best summer rear tyre there is though IMO. Kept me riding at 10utb on stuff that better riders were pushing.

Not so happy with my fronts, I use Nevegals but they're draggier than I need I think, Just haven't found the ideal replacement yet.

I didn't go for a Fred on the rear as it's seldom dry enough, often enough to keep one on there

Definitely agree with that, I only use my Fred for a couple of months of the year, at most. I was more meaning why the Ralph over another Ron, genuinely curious. I personally wouldn't have said they rolled quicker, but it's a hard thing to quantify!

Specialized Fastracks 2.1 grippy on loose stuff and will take light mud - also 120tpi - helps protect punctures.

kenda small 8s 2.1 on the giant xtc
smart sams 2.1 on the rock lobster
wtb exi wolf 2.1 front and conti 2.1 explorer rear on the Ti456 (the wtb is much bigger than the conti)

Kev

I was using Advantage 2.1 up front and Larsen Mimo 2.0 on the rear which I was liking but the Mimo sidewalls just didn't last. Now using a Smart Sam on the back which felt ok after one ride but would prefer something with a little more volume.

Specialized eskar 2.3 2bliss front and 2.1 crossmark rear (which will go 2.25 when worn out) on my five both tubeless.
The eskar is a really grippy front tyre, love it and the crossmark is surprisingly grippy for such a fast roller.

FS - 2.3 Spesh Eskars

HT - 2.1 Panaracer Fire XC

They stay on the bike until they wear out, at which point they are replaced with the same, or maybe something different.

Is it really worth changing tyres for our non-existant Summer? In any case, Summer's over now until late August - we've got nearly 3 months of rain with the odd nice day thrown in to look forward to.

dunno where you live AFK STR but where I am the trails are miles drier than they were several months ago, nowhere near as much mud on the ground... Since it only takes 10 mins to swap a set of tyres over it's nice to take the opportunity for a bit of faster smoother riding and getting a few more miles in, totally different experience from slogging it through the mud.

Kev

FS has 2.25" 3C Evo Nobby Nic up front and a 2.1" 3C Evo Racing Ralph out back, run tubeless.

SS HT has 2.35" Maxxis Ignitor Exceptions front and back, fast as you like and pretty grippy on woody single track, alot faster than advantages in a side by side roll test down a hill by me and my mate last week, we're talking a good 25m over about 300m of mild gradient farm track - and he's slightly heavier so has the G's on his side

Is it really worth changing tyres for our non-existant Summer?

I've had 3 different sets of tyres on my wheels in the last week! I've only ridden the bike twice in that period.

Minion Front, Larson Rear both 2.35, 60A folding jobs.

I just stuff an extra 5 psi in when it's this dry.

just put a semi slick on the back of my xc bike; driftastic 🙂

was going to get a Racing Ralph for the back, just noticed how much the Nics worn down, probably won't bother now....