Well folks, this thread is the announcement for a STW group ride around the western 7 Stanes. So far it is me, Trekster and Forge187 (and maybe Mrs Forge too). Trekster may be bringing one or two of his colleagues he goes riding with locally too. Any questions Trekster or myself should be able to help.
I am not assuming this is going to be one of those really big group rides, but was thinking it would be great to see a few of either the Edinburgh and Glasgow gang or others who are not too far away. Unfortunately I am not in a position to offer accomodation, but if anyone wants to come for both days, we would suggest getting a B&B in Dumfries of which there is a good choice.
Here's the plan:
Saturday 26th September - Kirroughtree
Meet up around 10am in the car park, ready to set off on the ride at 11am.
We will be riding the Kirroughtree red/black route. For those who do not know, the route is like a figure of eight, 8, whereby you start at the very bottom of the 8 on the red route. In the middle, you then start the black route, which loops around and you then finish up on the second half of the red. If that does not make sense, then you will be able download a PDF of the route via this link here:
http://www.7stanes.gov.uk/forestry/achs-5rnf8m
This link also has travel information on how to get there. If anyone wants to say bring a partner or friends who may not be fully confident on doing the entire loop, there are a couple of options
i) Just do the red route
ii) Do the route up to McMoab (the very top) then ride back on the road.
I will bring a few extra maps for those who may want to have options. Kirroughtree is family friendly, and has a cafe, small bike shop for parts, and a bike wash and I think showers?
Kirroughtree features the awesomely difficult McMoab rocks, but this is maybe a football pitched sized area of rock, where there is also a fireroad to ride on and by no means has to be ridden. I tried it once and just got no where so don't worry about this. The black is more about distance, and although there are ridiculously difficult sections, these tend to be a few metres long and can easily be missed by a quick push or carry. Apart from that Kirroughtree features some fantastic flowing singletrack and the black can be ridden by less confident or maybe less skilled riders but who have a good degree of fitness.
Sunday 27th September
AM - Dalbeattie
Meet at 10am, finish around 2pm (This assumes a very relaxed pace) I can do the red loop in around 3 hours, which includes a stop for sarnies. I think we could probably get fish and chips in Dalbeattie for lunch as there is no cafe at the track, and there is a small tap and hose for bike washing.
Here's the Dalbeattie website
> http://www.7stanes.gov.uk/forestry/achs-5rnf8m
Dalbeattie features the double black Slab and Terrible Twins rocks to ride down, but I doubt I will ever ride these in my lifetime and there are red route bypasses so the routes are great where there are mixed abilities.
Lunch in Dalbeattie
PM - Mabie
Not assuming everyone would join in, but this is a 2 1/2 hour red loop of nice flowing singletrack. Mabie also has the darkside which is a few km of silly difficult northshore, and a skillz park for kids who like to get "phat airtime". It also has a nice little cafe, bike shop and a bike wash.
Mabie website
http://www.7stanes.gov.uk/forestry/achs-5rnfl6
This is going to be quite a challenge for me fitness wise, so gives me a lot of motivation to get fit, and I thought I would put this up as I dont think there has been a SW Scotland group ride in quite some time, if at all. As I said, please let me know if you are interested just so I can guage numbers. Hopefully it will be a cracking weekend, and even if you can just make one of the days would be great to see you there. So do please come along as I will need a lot of encouragement especially on day 2 to get myself around!
I'll be there for both days, be good training for my Snowdon adventure.
hi si - great to have you back 🙂
sadly i have the girls that weekend but would have loved to have made it. no doubt i'll see you at the q's, exmoor or dartmoor sometime.
ali
Aleigh
Hiya - cheers - yeah, learnt a huge amount and can't wait to go back next year. After all the bugs that bit me in the rainforest am sure some ticks on the 'Tox will not provide any significant issues for me. Will probably be mainly around Dartmoor as I just love that area.
Yeah, not too sure what riding you've been doing recently but for many, including me, Kirroughtree especially has some of the best man-made awesome singletrack in the country. Am sure you'd love quite a few of the Stanes and they'd be right up your street.
Anyway, I guess there is a bit of bike karma for me as after 2 years of posting sunny Spanish ride pics it is hacking down with rain up here. But I need to get fit and recover from Peru, as well as getting ready for a Bogtrotters ride too so it's a week of soggy riding for me and hopefully the sun will make an appearance some time this month.
Si
knottie has an ace tick remover - keep meaning to go and buy one although the tix seems to like the q's lads haha!
i've done 2 welsh trail centres now, brechfa is like a massive version of swinley, really good fun. this weekend coming is a mix of somewhere nearby and the q's.
i think the only thing you have to think about now is the weather, as you know! you'll be fine 🙂
I could be up for this. My folks live down that way and I have ridden all three many a time. I may, however, be planning a Lake District long weekend... Will keep an eye on this though 🙂
Kit
Brill - would be great to see you there but no probs. I may give this thread a quick bounce this coming weekend if it needs it 🙂
Potentially i'll make 1 of the days, not sure as yet which one.
The downside of this being that now people know i'm coming alot wont turn up.
Bounce the thread later on and i'l let you no for def closer to the time and when i do my rota.
Finally got to meet Mr Ralli today afer a few near misses :D. Ta for the coffee and hope you find your way around the Lowthers OK. Remembered later there is another track you can do, will mail some details or meet again sometime.
There was an stw meet way back when Dalbeattie opened. We organised the local community council to do teas, coffees and cakes to allow everyone to meet & greet. Chipps was in attendance along with that wee American guy that writes for the mag(name?)and 50 other riders. Also there was a young guy called Sanny who is back posting amongst us again I see.
Sanny organised a magic weekend in Pitlochry a few years back.
Met raddoggair at GT last Xmas/New yr stw ride along with Ton and others(sorry others)
An option for the Sunday meet at Dalbeattie.
Park & meet in Rockcliffe. There is a nice tea room there to end the ride at rather than trying to find parking space in Dalbeattie. Although there is a big public car park doubt if much will be open.
Other option is just to motor over to Mabie and eat there. We could call forward and arrange eats with Jemma before we get there.
The downside of this being that now people know i'm coming alot wont turn up.
Why? You're a babe. 😉
I'd be interested... however I don't understand why anyone would want to go to K'tree and not do the full route?! Why limit yourself to the Red - or head back on the road from McMoab?! Madness... 🙄
If my legs were feeling it I'd climb Stairway to Heaven then shortcut on the road to Heartbreak Hill at least then you get to ride Black Craigs which is fantastic.
I think what Simon is trying to get across is the flexibility of the trail should you be tired at any point there are leg saver options, it just depends how you use them.
I'll intend on doing the full red and black though.
The downside of this being that now people know I'm coming a lot wont turn up.
You will just have to slow down to our pace otherwise you will be doing double the distance keeping warm or loitering around a lot 😉
Simon. If you are going to Dalbeattie today and read this eary enough give me call. I need to be back for 4 tho.
HH...not everyone is super, dooper fit so may wish to conserve energy from Sat to carry over into Sunday, a bit like Ferarri use the KERS system, especially after a long drive.
The downside of this being that now people know I'm coming a lot wont turn up.
Put me down for the day that radoggair can't manage 😉
and the revolt begins......................
radoggair=Scots sfb 👿
Tell us, what have you done ❓
Put me down for the dy when radoair IS going so I can hone my waitress chatting up skilz at the hands of the master.
Perhaps I could hone my typing skilz too.
radoggair=Scots sfb ?
Not on your life. He's got a great sense of humour and can really ride his bike. Let the love fest begin.
Firstly Trekster - sorry - I must have got confused about when you could and could not ride. Could have sworn I said I was going to Mabie today. It was ace! :
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/hello-bike-mojo-long-time-no-see
The good news is my fitness does not seem to have tailed off too much, so feeling like I have an OKish fitness-base on which to build.
Good to see a few folks may make one or two days as well. Maybe the weekend before I will do a roll-call thread, so I can keep track of who is coming when so we don't set off without anyone, and also, I can make my mobile available via email if anyone wants it and who may be travelling some distance (traffic etc).
And yes, for clarification, I was trying to emphasise that although we will be doing a red/black combo at Kirroughtree, even I am able to ride most of it and I wanted to make this ride as inclusive as possible.
As for why someone may ride the road back from McMoab, well * cough * some people may need to do that for reasons that they may wish to keep to themselves but may well be reminded about by * cough * mechanics in G&G Dumfries LBS mentioning no names 😳 but who you would think would not remind their valued customers of ay?
[Although after saying that I was given a lot of free help by the lass in the Bike Shed shop at Mabie this morning of which I am very greatful hurrah].
Cool - put me down for the full Red/Black, and 'chatting up wimmen/gurlz' masterclass to be run be Radoggair.
Put me down for the dy when radoair IS going so I can hone my waitress chatting up skilz at the hands of the master.
Think it was the free love i offered her which was the clincher 😉
So basically we all do Kirroughtree on the Saturday where we get a bike masterclass from Forge and Trekster, then we all go for a meal in Dumfries, and then radoggair shows us his silky moves with the laydeez at Chancers "niteclub"? 😀
and can really ride his bike
Hey........... i'll do the bike masterclass as well 🙂
This is looking like it could be one heck of a weekend 😮
Not on your life. He's got a great sense of humour and can really ride his bike. Let the love fest begin
Yeah, know that
Sounds like a plan forming - SC might drag his sorry carcass along...
Bu99a, I'm up there 2 weeks after for a week:-( will have to ride it without the STW massive although there is 8 stw'ers coming up for that week!
Ayatollahofniche post up when you are hitting any of the stanes there maybe some "locals" around 🙂
Myself,Simon, forge, scotabroad are all Doonhaners or adopted Doonhammers so give us a shout and we can show you the best bits :wink:if we are around
...at Chancers "niteclub?
Oh good God, you're not being serious are you? Well if you're going to [i]do[/i] Chancers then you should at least start off at the Lyver!
Kit
No - I am joking. The actual plan is to start off with some karaoke down the Hole in the Wall but if I said that no one would come out with me - oh!
But seeing as no one has said they are styaing the night it's all theoretical at this stage really.
I'll give you a bell John 😉 would be good to catch up again!
We do fancy doing something more natural!
Ayatollah
A little bit more serious now, speaking to Trekster there is quite a good chance that he may not be free on the Sunday. I am going to be doing one of his suggested natural routes, but maybe a STW group ride out in the wilderness of Galloway is one for the future when we have someone who knows what they are doing with us.
I thought that this would be nice and chilled doing The Stanes. I know it isn't everyone's cup of tea, but it means I can at least stand half a chance of getting everyone around without getting lost and it's all weather with no bogs etc. 🙂
We won't be there for your ride Simon so nae probs! John has shown me some good stuff up there before and had mentioned some good natural rides which we'd like to do during our week up there. The rest of the week I'll more than likely be found riding the Stabes 🙂
Ok - well I dont have a job right now so maybe see you at one or two of the stanes mid-week to say hi 🙂
That'd be cool
there's myself, singlespeedpunk, singlespeedstu and cheesybeanz and respective other halves all coming up!
What dates Ayatolla?
10th to 17th is Oct. I think! Sat to Sat, you about?
"Hey........... i'll do the bike masterclass as well"
For those wishing to take part in his "bike masterclass" please see link of what to expect.
Radoggair starring role around 1 minute in and then again at 4 minutes.
The dvd to go with his 'chatting up wimmen/gurlz' masterclass is sadly banned.
EDIT: Forgot to say I should be free that weekend for a ride, was at Mabie on Sunday and had a good day
Stick me down for the Sunday, Dalbeattie or Mabie but not both.
Not been biking much lately but I am to speed on curry and beer training so I will enter the carthorse on a bike group... 😀
Oh Oct - by that time I will be down in Devon interferring with that lot down there 🙂
ijs - 31seconds in - are those full length lycra leggins?? That video needs some kind fo warning!
Even with poor YouTube quality there is no denying that full length lycra is on display, and more than one pair. . . shocking.
Well I'll let you off as it was 1999 yeah? But that haircut - surely that was straight out of 1989? Like Liam from the Prodigy in the early days?
Some good clips there though I have to say. Quite enjoyed it otherwise.
Probably pre 1999. Roughly the time i started riding with radoggair.
Couple of other mainly from GlenT and Inners
May bring the camera and try and get an STW film put together
Note: i am ugly and rubbish on a bike so hide behind the camera
Yeah - deffo bring your camera! We can then flim Forge and Radoggair doing their mega moves down the various chutes etc and record the numerous masterclasses so the rest of the world population of STW can look and learn too.
10th to 17th is Oct. I think! Sat to Sat, you about?
Good dates them, off most of that week, working both Saturdays
By co-incidence a few of us are down at Kirroughtree the last weekend in September. Staying at some nearby forest lodges I think. Would be good to hook up and put some faces to names.
I'll give you a shout then mate! Fancy doing some natural stuff?
Ps sorry for the hijack 😉
Ayatollahofniche - I am about on the Saturdays if you riding be good to meet some more STW'rs
Simon - think your over selling my abilities just a touch. 🙂
Heh - only joking of course. Mind you have you seen that video of radoggair? He's crashing all over the shop, although I have to say he does do one heck of a jump.
I think we are only now missing someone with home-baked cake. Where's that Rockedog and is he free??
Oh and kennyp - yeah - obviously no one is forcing you to join our ride if you want to do your thing with your little group but yeah say hi to us if you are the same Stanes as us those days!
I'll check with the others Simon, but it would be good to meet up for at least part of the ride. Always curious to see who the real life folk on here actually are. Is it a 10.00 start (or at least "10.00" in mountain bike terms ie not allowing for faffing and hangovers)?
If you want cake maybe pick some up enroute at the Old School Team Room there Chocolate and Cherry Oat Cake is lovely.
Hey - i only crashed twice, maybe three times. It was 1999 and we were pushing some boundaries out there. They were good times and someone always crashed as soon as a camera came out. It was expected. The hair though... oh the hair. I'm sure it was stylish sometime. I'm like a fine wine, get better with age 🙄
Kenny - I was thinking for the Saturday 10am meet for an 11am start of ride. I thought that that would enable people who maybe live an hour or so away time to get there on Saturday. I don't think too many people will be in our group, it may be that your group is the bigger!
I think for the Sunday it would maybe be better to set off at 10am at Dalbeattie, as it may get dark by the time we get to the later stages of Mabie, but then who knows, maybe we just do Dalbeattie Sunday and end up in one of the many local awesome cake shops 😀
Radoggair - heh - maybe it feels like there were more crashes, were those repeats at the end? I am not one to talk about hair mind, but yeah, nice curtains. Was that you?
Forge - I am a student now don't forget and was thinking more along the lines of a bucket of flapjack from Morrisons, but yeah, good call on the cake shop!
Can the boys from C D join in ?
Think there's about 8 or 9 of us going down, but a few of those are dark siders who will probably be up and out at 7 in the morning and already put a good 40 miles in before the mountain bikers in the group stagger out of beds reeking of whisky.
10 for an 11 start sounds fine.
The hair was me
* hangs head in shame*
fotheringtonthomas - MemberCan the boys from C D join in ?
Stewartry riders welcome, we are in your parish/shire so be rude not to have you along
Anyone driving up the M1 past the Derby/Sheffield area?
Fotheringtonthomas
Hi - yep - great to have you along. I'm quite glad I organised this now as I am fining out there are maybe a few more local riders than originally thought.
I will post up a Roll Call thread a week before the rides, but wanted to post this now to give people enough advanced notice.
spoon...no I`m already here but will be down Sheffield first weekend Oct riding from 18bikes on the Sat(2ndor3rd)if you are around?
no, i'm down in Reading, but my parents live up that way and the mountainbike is in their spare room.
I might bimble on over from Edinburgh for one of these days. I've not ridden Dalbeatie for a good wee while.
see Simons other thread
Yep this is the latest
I think we'll drop the Mabie bit in order to be able take our time, pictures and have lots of fun and cake at Dalbeattie!