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[Closed] Straight to Tapered headset?!... Confusion has kicked in!

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After some guidance really guys, Im looking into getting some new forks hopefully Fox Talas 36, I'm looking at getting tapered ones so that I can be a little more future proof for when my frame has had its day. My current frame has a standard 1-1/8 headtube, what headsets are available to make this combination work?
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Posted : 16/08/2011 10:34 am
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it wont


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 10:35 am
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surely this is one of those things you can work out without having to be 'in the know'...


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 10:37 am
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OMFG! I'm scared!!!


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 11:01 am
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Tapered forks go from 1.5" at the crown to 1 1/8" at the top of the steerer (the tapered bit is only about a couple of inches long, and I don't think there's a standard for the pitch of the taper)

So a tapered fork will be to big at the crown end to fit into your head tube


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 11:07 am
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Im not stupid, I can work this out without being in 'the know'. Please see the link where cane creek have a headset which does what Im wanting to do, but I cannot find this headset and wanting to know if more are available?!
;[url= http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/new-headset-allows-use-of-tapered-steerers-in-some-1-18in-head-tubes-25275/ ]Cane Creek[/url]


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 12:20 pm
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I'm not aware of any other 'sets apart from that cane creek one. good luck finding one in the UK though - I looked a wee while ago and couldn't find anywhere that had them


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 12:26 pm
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The convertion kit to allow taper forks on a none flared frame require a frame with internal headsets.


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 12:29 pm
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[url= http://www.canecreek.com/docs/Standardized_Headset_Identification_System.pdf ]Try looking through here[/url]

I did ,and I don't think you can do Tapered fork to standard frame.

It looks like it only works the other way with an adapter .

I could be wrong, I often am ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 12:30 pm
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To use the cane creek set up, thought the head tube had to take internal headset cups, if it takes a standard headset then it won't work me thinks?


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 12:35 pm
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If you can't help or won't help, bog off and annoy someone else. He asked a bike related question on a bike orientated forum - be civilised.


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 12:36 pm
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Yes that will work fine but you need a bike with a zero stack or semi integrated headset . All it does is fit a standard headset bearing outside the head tube rather than it fitting inside the head tube . A very neat solution which I had heard of but not seen until now. Some of you earlier posters may be feeling a little stupid now eh .


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 12:37 pm
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IIRC Cane Creek discontinued the XX44

But I think this is it's replacement
http://www.bike-mailorder.de/shop/product_info.php?language=en&products_id=26083


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 12:40 pm
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If you have a zero stack headset in your curent frame where the bearings and cups are located inside the head tube of the bike. It is possible to fit tapered forks to your frame.

If your frame has a standard 1 1/8 headset with the cups and bearings external to the head tube it will not be possible to fit tapered forks in your frame.

If your in the position where you do have a zerostack / internal / 44mm headset arrangement then there are various headsets out there you can use. On my Iron Horse I fitted [url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=60615 ]one of these[/url] nuke proof headsets. The lower cup has extended flanges for greater insertion to some frames however for my bike i needed to reduce them to 10mm (a friend with a late turned it down in minutes). This then esentially puts the lower bearings external allowing for the larger diamiter steerer. It will also slacken the head angle slightly as your will be lenghtening the A-C length, on my bike this was good as i felt the head angle was a little steep any way.


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 12:46 pm
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Thanks to all that have helped and answered my question!! That nukeproof looks like a good buy.

And I hope they are feeling a little stupid!


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 1:00 pm
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If you need to trim the lower cup of the nuke proof one down and do not have access to a lathe then i have heard of people very carefully using a junior hack saw and a file to get it to the correct lenght. A machine shop should do it for a packet of biscuits or a few beers as it literally took my friend 5 minutes to sort my one.


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 1:06 pm
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I guess you could have helped by saying which frame it was going to fit, as you said in your OP that it was for a standard 1 1/8th headtube, not a 44mm.

Just saying like...


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 1:11 pm
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GavinB- Your right there pal, think thats where I was confusing myself to be honest!!


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 1:37 pm
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Buy the taper fork then get it home find it doesn't fit then have to buy a new frame win win ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 16/08/2011 1:44 pm