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So I took the Knard off today and fitted up a Hans Dampf...
I half expected the profile to be too square on the 50mm Rabbit Hole rim, but it looks ok
The Knard first, then the HD, coming in at 2.6"
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Fitted a 2.4" X-King on a Dually to mine today. I was worried about the tyre profile squaring off too much but the profile's actually very nice.
Stooge's paint is super durable and thick
Still cleans up to a shine
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Still loving the Stooge. It's my go to bike at the moment.
Looking forward to putting a 3'' tyre on though. The 2.3'' is a bit harsh.
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Great Picture ^^
Stooge is also my goto bike..just love it.
Built:
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I've not ridden it in anger yet, as it turns out that the rear brake hose needs to be 20cm longer than on my old Cotic Soul! (The sheep pictured around the bottom braket area slid down the brake hose).
Inspired by all this recent foul weather, I've built it up as a singlespeed. Weight is around 24.5lb; closer to 26lb with gears I'd imagine.
Brief build spec: Hope hubs on DT X470 rims, Mountain King Protection 2.4 tyres, Thomson 80mm flat stem & layback post, Easton EC70 lo-rise bars, XT brakes & cranks.
First impressions:
- It's a big, long bike... certainly compared to my Soul (this is my maiden 29er)
- Quality and finish are exactly what they need to be to compete with the big boys (i.e. very good)
- Looks amazing
- Eccentric bottom bracket is a breeze to set up
- Rider position feels immediately comfortable
Ride notes to follow... 🙂
Picture / radiator alignment fail 😉
Lovely bike. Enjoy.
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biff - Member
Jones Geometry – check the figures. Check the date.
Jones Plus Geometry - different figures. Different date.
Thread closed :O)
biff - Member
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Looks great Ben - what dimensions are you?
Having a good time ...
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... the Stooge is still great.
i look out of my window at the wind and rain and feel nothing but jealousy. where are you?
Slovenia. Not a bad place to be at the moment 😉
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Bought the frame and fork from a friend (all I wanted was a test ride 🙂 ), so probably still the only Stooge in the country.
bonesetter - MemberLooks great Ben - what dimensions are you?
I'm 6'0", with a 32" inside leg. I've only ridden the bike to the shops since building it, as I've still not bled the rear brake properly since fitting a longer hose.
The 80mm stem and layback post feel good to me though.
Well FFS, get out on the trail and report back
Should be a sweet ride - I think the lay back post is essential. Gets you right over the back axle
I agree. Second ride on the new stooge and the layback felt better than an inline...been riding rigid 29 ers for a few years and this is a corker. I am running a 70mm stem..and 720 bars with a slight backsweep....I also felt have the bb in lowest position waorked better. Stil not sure about tyres..on 2. Ardents, but it feels like it wants a bigger tyre...but I don't fancy the weighty knards or chronicles....
The bigger volume tyre (on a wide rim) makes such a difference, and as Stooge's front is so light, a 'slight' bit of extra tyre heft is insignificant
Not sure I would be buying a Knard though with winter round the corner (dam right dangerous in mud)
Sounds like you're having good fun there 🙂
Think you are right. Will get this winter fine with ( when it arrives) and then go for some wide rims and tyre. This bike just has soul.
Just back from a 70 mile spin in the Cairngorms....this bike just keeps impressing me!
The all day comfort is outstanding.
Still using a knard up-front but planning a Magic Mary for the winter
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Oh I also found a long lost cousin
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Nice. What was your route?
I have been lurking on this thread for a while now trying to resist......
I have been riding a ridgid, singlespeed 29er for a while now as my only bike. Inbred with chromotos. This was built as a bit of an experiment to see if I liked 29ers and if I could live with fully ridgid, single speed as my only bike. 2 years later I still have it and love it. It does big New Forest xc rides, short sharp local blasts and days out in south wales very well. I now find myself wanting a stooge. I know it would be a better technical riding bike but how would it handle New Forest slogging ? lots of short sharp climbs and decents puntuated with long flat sections. I have fallen into the trap before of building lovely bikes that are not suited to my local riding in any way. I would be very intersted in your thoughts.
Loveing the purple one.........
obviously i would say this, but..
I spent a week in the New Forest back in June and it was perfect there. The Stooge is designed to be ridden all day, up and down, in super comfort. Don't think you'll be disappointed.
On a sadder note, i'm afraid all the purple have sold out, though i'm sure Keep Pedalling in Manchester still have one if you REALLY wanted one.
check out other thread on the forum for more owners reviews.
cheers, Andy
nimo - the riding you describe sounds pretty similar to my usual rides - snakes and ladders type of hilly riding (Clent Hills) - longer and more ladders than snakes, but some climbs are fairly steep (I run a 30T chainring on a 1x set-up), and I do look for the steepest I can find. Some of the descents are as fast as you dare go. These rides usually last ~ 1 1/2 to 2 hrs and cover about 13 miles
Weekends see more of a XC 'pub ride' (30 miles ish) and I'm out for up to 8 hrs 🙂 Stooge performs brilliantly at both tasks, and always gets me home safe, despite the quantity imbibed 🙂
mmmmmmmm, sounds like it could be the one.........
I will be running single speed and sensible to sturdy build.
All my rides are in the Highlands and covering some big miles and I am riding singlespeed.
Trust me...you won't be dissapointed!
Its a great bike!
As someone with a permanent n+1 itch, hearing that the purple has sold out is actually good news in a twisted kind of way!
Couple of puffer laps tonight..
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Chronicle works well as a front tyre. Impressed.
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Mal-ec - MemberChronicle works well as a front tyre. Impressed.
Did you try them in mud? My lbs has some and I want to get the mud feedback before I buy one...
Only non sticky mud. Not clay-y woodlands yet as its been too wet last couple of days. But in gritty mud, cleared fine and cornered better than expected as the side knobs bit in. Great on wet rock/slate whereas the Knards were getting proper sketchy. Will report back when I've done some more filth riding. Can't see them being great in very claggy mud.
How big a tyre can you fit on the back?
I'm running a 2.4 Chunky Monkey and it just about goes, well I've buzzed a bit of paint of the seat stay under flex that is.
It is on a Dually mind, with a narrower rim YMMV maybe even take a larger tyre.
2.4 ardent which is pretty big. Was pretty tight on Rabbit holes, fine on 32mm wide lightnings.
2.4 Racing Ralph buzzed the seat stay - changed to a Fire XC Pro (decent performer in 29er flavour - mediocre in small wheel format)
There's very little mud clearance even with this tyre - last ride the BB area was well stacked with trail debris
I don't like to be pernickety but regarding that article on the front page, it isn't a hardtail is it? Looks great though, glad to see half the first run has sold out!
2.35 Maxxis Ikon on a Flow EX was a tight fit with only a couple of mm clearance. Can't see a 2.4 Ardent fitting, which is a shame as that's what I wanted to use on the back
still not clear .. should I buy a Stooge?
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yes 🙂still not clear .. should I buy a Stooge?
re rear tyres, being a one man band when i designed the bike I measured the clearance against the tyres i have, i now run a wtb 2.5 on a Dually and it's tight but there's enough there. I think some tyres with more aggressive shoulders struggle more. re the 2.35 Ikon, i think that's renowned for being an especially large tyre. All the same, i will try an eke out a few more mm on the next run.
The idea behind the rear end is pretty old school bmx though, based around the idea of a skinny rear and a fat front. I see no real advantage from running anything over a 2.3 on the back, especially with the wider rims now available. At the moment i think the rear is very rim dependant on what you can fit in. These are all things i'll look at in the future.
is there a MK2 version in the pipeline with more mounts for backpacking?
I'm running a Smorgasbord on a Crest. Lots of room and works well.
Mattjg, you know you're going to do it so just get it done. 😉
love you guys
I don't like to be pernickety but regarding that article on the front page, it isn't a hardtail is it? Looks great though, glad to see half the first run has sold out!
what would you call if if not a hardtail?