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Stolen, my 2 week old Jones Spaceframe bike was taken last night - very recognisable! Jones xtr polished xtr m960 crank, 6 spd modified xt cass on KING SS HUB, xtr deraileur. Phil Wood 135mm front wheel (There is only one of these wheels in the UK to my knowledge and it will only fit a fat fork., salsa gordo rims, fat front fork, jones loop bars, white Jones decals, Hope X2 pro brakes on 302/183 floaters. Frame No ends 74, fork no ends 57...There aren't many of them, and most are known so perhaps there's hope 🙁
Also Cotic Soul, x small, custard, full xtr, Royce hubs on dt xr4.1 wheels, tubeless, whole frame copter taped, Hope mono mini silver brakes, SDG i beam, maxxis high rollers, easton bars
Specialized Ruby COmp, blue carbon, white bar tape, full 105, 44, again very small.
Also childs Islabike Beinn 20 small, still boxed, present for daughter.
All taken from Hinckley between midnight and 7am.
email [phil.pryorATblue-ngDOTcom] if you have any details or see one out there, my wife is gutted her Soul is gone.
We would be grateful for any news.
More later
Thats awful, really sorry, can you post some pics too? It would help..
I lost mine some months back and can feel you pain..
Pic of the Jones with the normal front. The saddle is now a brooks titanium, it has an Erikson s/post and the steerer is cut down to just one 10mm spacer on top.
The second pic has the big wheel on it, they didn't get that, but apart from that this is the setup that was stolen.
Hi Chainline
sorry to hear about your loss
just up the road form you, like 3 miles form Hinckley, so that's quite worrying.
I'll let my mate who is a volunteer with the Rugby Police (she also knows a lot of Leicester cops) know and also have a word with the guys in Lutterworth cycles.
Thanks guys, I'll get some pics up of the Soul too. Not too bothered about the roadie, easily replaced, The other two are pretty special.
Who's gonna buy them??
I'm not a member of other forums but I'll perhaps try and post on those too.
Phil
put a pic up of the roadie as well, lots of roadies round here and they are more likely to recognise it.
really sorry to hear about this.
how the **** are they going to sell the jones......
Here's the Soul.
The Soul and Jones had Oxford Hardcore motorbike chain on through a ground anchor, looks like hydraulic cutters used to get through the shackle and garage lock.
No pics of the Ruby, blue but it had my Brooks black swift saddle, brooks saddle bag and Campag record s/post on it as she had borrowed them. No other Ruby's with tht set up I'd guess, blue carbon, light blue look keo pedals, white bar tape.
That's shit news mate.
Hope they come back safely.
A long shot but I'd set up an Ebay auto-search, that way if they pop up on there you'll get an auto-email. Just a thought.
PT.
Hi Phil sorry to hear about the theft, I live in Hinckley too (near Asda) and will keep my eyes peeled, but by the sounds (tooled up to break locks) the were from Leicester or Cov.
jones isnt hard to miss
**** i wonder if they even know what they've got, hope your well insured mate. I will keep an eye out on ebay and in peterborough for you.
Frankers - plenty of well tooled up pikeys round here.
How do I set up an auto search?
do an ebay search then next to the figure telling you how many results there is a 'save search' option
will keep my eyes peeled as i ride around leicester
Thanks swampi.
I've ridden it at Cannock a couple of times now and the shop guys know it, never seen another there also at Sherwood, again not seen another. Not too much around here to go at.
Other details, is is set up with only one cable guide/stop for the front mech, close to the head tube on the outside down tube. There are no other cable guides only brake zip tie mounts.
The X2 pros have braided hose not the usual plastic.
There is a GPS mount on the right of the bar loop. and the Rohloff chainguide is modified and polished with some slight wear on it's inside from the weekend in the peaks (which was great)
The brooks saddle has some big sit bone dents in it too and the front blackspire SS ring is a 43 T, the rear mech is XTR shortcage.
WTB weirwolf 2.55's It has the DKG clamp and NO frame sticker where I would normally clamp on the Thule roof carrier arm on top of the downtube.
On the Soul there is a small chip out of the copter tape on the chainstay, halfway along the chain side.
Phil
Sorry to hear about your loss - but I am sure as you spread the word it will be difficult if not impossible to sell or use the bike without it raising suspicion.
The only one I have for seen for real was actually at a cannock - but I do know that guy , so if I see another it will be worth having a poke.
Do you have any idea how many have been brought into the UK - shouldn't be too hard to find out.
I think I can name quite a few of the owners, probably around a dozen or so in total
mrmichaelwright - MemberFrankers - plenty of well tooled up pikeys round here.
I surpose they're everywhere but Hinckley is usually (more or less) trouble free, gets me though how they know what to go for, or probably they didn't.
Actually thinking about it there has been a fair few garage broken into recently and motor bikes stolen, chances are thats what they may have been after.
I can speak to Bikes & Sports for you Phil as I know Ash, might be worth speaking to Pagey and the shop by B&Q also (long shot though)
I've spoken to Cycle centre Terry at the top of town, posted on MTBR in case someone trys to get it out of the country.
The blackspire is 34T not 43t (mad whilst typing)
I don't think they know what they've got, they left expensive unlocked road bikes on wall racks but took my daughters Islabike Beinn!! Specialized Ruby over condor classico with full Record groupset.
They looked in all my drawers but left all the boone cogs and the fat wheel.
I lock up the two mtn bikes for obvious reasons and my wifes roady is close.
Can't believe we didn't here anything, my dogs didn't bark either.
It'll prob get sold for a few hundred quid to someone who doesn't know any better. Hopefully it'll turn up somewhere and get spotted by someone who knows its gone. The phil wood hub, erikson post and six speed are a giveaway I hope, that and the frame numbers
Phil
still cryin' 😥
I am up the road in Tamworth. I'll keep an eye out for them.
That's proper poo.
Strange, whilst out on my road bike tonight spotted 2 scene of crimes vans in Hinckley, maybe there's been a bit of a spate of break-ins 🙁
Do you ride local Chainline??
I try to, with my mate neilikesbikes. Mostly at Cannock and Sherwood when we get the chance. Peaks, Lakes etc when baby sitters permit, my wife rides too whenever she can. We ride roadie as well. I'd like to try and find some stuff around Leicester or nearer to do in the eve rather than trucking over to Cannock for a night ride all the time, I like that but its and hour each way after work. Any info appreciated...just need some new bikes now:(
I've emailed cash converters just in case!
We have some local routes we do on a Wednesday and Friday nights local to Hinckley. Also do Cannock fairly often but don't bother with Sherwood so much
I'll email you
Very sorry to hear about your loss mate.
Just up the road in Thornton near Markfield - had 4 bikes nicked a few months ago - seemed very targetted - only took bikes from a garage with power tools & other nick-abel stuff. A Merlin Oreas TI, Turner Spot & 2 Specialized Rockhoppers. Bastards
Will keep a look out for ya.
Will keep an eye out.
As for routes:-
Ticknall
Martinshaw Woods - Groby
There's a bit of stuff in Coalville if you know where to go.
Swithland/Woodhouse Eaves
Phil ... very sorry to hear this. Best of luck.
chainline/frankers
MrsMW has put the details on cyclechat forum.
I'd be well up for finding more local riders, we ride road and mtb as well. very interested in local stuff and if you need a loan of a bike then we have 12 for you to choose from!
I am notoriously un-reliable at regular rides because of my job but am up for ad-hoc rides and sharing liftage to cannock etc.
drop me an email if you are interested, we live in Claybrooke, very close to Hinckley
myusername at hotmail.com
Martinshaw woods are great at the moment!! Hows Ticknall at the mo. -not been for ages?
It pi$$es me off just reading it, some pikies think they have the right to take something that you work so hard to get. Really hope they get back to you where they belong.
One other detail..sorry to be sad guys but I really want to get it back, it has 6mm bolt rack mounts above the rear dropouts, a fairly recent Jones option.
Really appreciate all the good wishes, efforts and eyes out there...musn't forget my wife, shes in bits over her beloved Soul, can't get custard anymore either, at least they left her Pashley and Islabike trailer bike so she can get the youngest to school 🙄
I am nearby in Nuneaton and will likewise keep my eyes open for you and ear to the ground. If I spot anyone on either similar bikes I will be earning some overtime-heres hoping. Just as another suggestion pay a visit to Furnace End car boot too just in case. Do you live semi rural Hinckley or in the town? Always a worry if the garage door is up that nerrdowells get a peak at whats inside. The other concern is that someone has weighed the frames in for scrap-ring round your local scrap merchants just in case.
I found the jones on ebay.
Afraid I have lost my sense of humour on that one rolf. It'll be all about the carbon weave basket next. Live and let ride.
Could things get any worse...looks like Merlin can't make any more Jones's, Jeff is trying to work with others to see if he can get some frames built to his design, otherwise back to just Jeff which could mean huge waiting lists. Either way gonna be a very long time before I can get another 😥
oh well, at least there's a bright side! 😉
I guess you'll be happier that Jones's are about to get even rarer again, Merlin are in trouble and reducing staff and production, concentrating on imported carbon frames (ABG)
Was that your Jones that was outside 18bikes last Sat lunch along with a 29er? Smart - shame its gone.
I'm markfield direction. and have friends in Hinckley. Will put word out. Sorry to hear about this theft. Some people are scum.
Anyone recommend a good ground anchor?
The ground anchor I used was an Oxford one. I used an Oxford Harcore XL chain and shackle, it won the RIDE motorbike lock test last year and withstood over 5 mins of attack from everything. They could'nt do the chain or the ground anchor, they took out the U section of the padlock, I am a bit surprised but they could have been at it for ages during the night, they left all the locks etc on the floor. They did the same with the garage padlock. Nothing on there would have worked.
If I ever [can] get another Jones I am going to put a motion alarm in the garage and CCTV on the garage front, inside garage and front/back house. Maplin have deals at the mo on external grade cctv to a hard disk. A small price really considering whats gone. At least we'd have more chance of catching them.
we have the garage alarmed at night and when we are out. linked in to our house alarm. Have a PIR and 2 door sensors. The door sensors also set off a chime if the doors are opened at any time.
Chainline, i'm crying with you mate, I just hope that you were insured.
I live in Germany but will keep my eyes and ears open for you anyway.
It was my Jones outside 18bikes at the weekend with a swift yes, first big weekend out since I got it, confirmed for me it was the bike for me....b'stards
mrmichaelwright,
Your name (presumably) and security measures given away on the WWW, you might want to get that post deleted.
Can't believe my dogs didn't bark either 😮
Kingtut - good luck finding my address 🙂
Nice raised beds btw 🙂
ta
thats gutting ill keep my eyes peeled-not many jones spaceframes knocking about
The ground anchor I used was an Oxford one. I used an Oxford Harcore XL chain and shackle, it won the RIDE motorbike lock test last year and withstood over 5 mins of attack from everything. They could'nt do the chain or the ground anchor, they took out the U section of the padlock, I am a bit surprised but they could have been at it for ages during the night, they left all the locks etc on the floor. They did the same with the garage padlock. Nothing on there would have worked.
Mate, they came knowing EXACTLY what security you had, knowing exactly what you had in the garage, and what it was worth/how long you'd had it
I hate to say it, but I'm suspecting some sort of inside job....
Could be Peter, nothing I can do now. The things they did take vs what they didn't doesn't compute though, take a childs bike? There were parts in there worth more than that they picked up and then ignored!
What is a Jones worth on the open market given their numbers? Stolen to order? Advertising it would be interesting. The front hub is useless on anything else, as is the fork, if you grind the frame and fork numbers off I could still identify it from the frame spec in terms of guide placement if anyone spotted it and reported to the police, andI have photo's and the guy that shipped it to back that up, rack mount bolt diameters, bottle cage mount location etc. So what is it really worth, I would say less than any current mid spec full susser from the big boys.
But you do wonder who your friends are. I lost count of how many 'whats that worth mate' questions I got that I didn't answer and I have never given my address out.
The only others I can think are the likes of FedEx and Customs who know both value and address.
Anyways, still gutted, worked my ass off for it, sold all my other mountain bikes, had it for a few weeks, may never be able to get another 😥
Really pants to hear about this. Saw on your Mrs facebook the other day. Certainly made us think about security better being up the road!
Hope your kit turns up somewhere.
The pictures dont do it justice the bike justice and that huge front wheel isnt going to slip quietly by anyone unless as peter thinks its an insider knowledge job. Eccentric back theft its not just a crime its an assult on the soul.
I'd never seen one in the flesh before and its definately a head turner. If i wasnt a meant to be elsewhere I would have stopped for a chat - was leaving on the roadrat with rack about the time you arrived.
Ah, saw that roadrat, nice.
They left the fat front wheel, it has a "normal" 29er wheel on, albeit with a 135mm fat front Phil Wood hub on a Salsa Gordo rim. It looks very small in that massive fork there is about an inch of clearance on either side!
The only thing I am a bit bothered about is if the existing UK Jones owners get questioned, hopefully most of them are known where they usually ride and won't mind if someone asks politely.
Gutted for you,I'd hate mine to go walk about's I've had mine for nearly 18 months and still can't get enough of it.
oldagedpredator - Member
The pictures dont do it justice the bike justice and that huge front wheel isnt going to slip quietly by anyone unless as peter thinks its an insider knowledge job.
If the picture on the front page doesn't do it justice here's one of mine
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I think yours was only the 3rd fat fork/wheel combo in the UK.
Hope no one thinks I knicked it while I'm out riding.
Fingers crossed and eyes peeled for you in the north. JC
Chainline - Member
Could things get any worse...looks like Merlin can't make any more Jones's, Jeff is trying to work with others to see if he can get some frames built to his design, otherwise back to just Jeff which could mean huge waiting lists. Either way gonna be a very long time before I can get another
****, I was after a 2nd one so I didn't have to gear it up for the summer and SS it back again in the winter as it is now.
Ah you see John, the instantly recognizable Paul hub to those in the know 😀
You were very kind and let me try yours out at SSUK this year whilst still waiting for mine, I appreciated that.
Yes the news on availability was a blow. Changing out isn't so bad though,that was my intent, mostly SS occasionally geared.
You even have a choice of huge front tyre now! A slightly knobblier one shown at Interbike. I do too, but no bike to run it on!
Keep your eye on Gumtree in and around your area with different city searchs
http://leicester.gumtree.com/other_gumtrees.html
poor bastard who nicked the Jones, not only will he not be able to sell it but he will look like a **** riding it 😉
ROFL Harris - Memberpoor bastard who nicked the Jones, not only will he not be able to sell it but he will look like a **** riding it
What a nice comment to be aimed at someone who just had their home broken into and possesions stolen.
hence the wink you ****
Oh sorry didn't notice the wink, must be ok then.
is the op offended? no? then what is the problem?
Hi Phil, really sorry to hear that. We met just before you got the Jones, bought the Chariot off you. gutted for your loss, hope it gets recovered. Especially gutted about the Isla bike, was hoping to buy that off you when your girls outgrew it 😉
Get tae f_uck ROFL, you silly ****. He's just lost an irreplaceable bike, it's not like a Giant Reign on the house insurance.
Really hope something turns up Chainline.
ROFL Harris - Memberis the op offended? no? then what is the problem?
Personally ROFL I just think it's a bit insensitive making comments like the one you made above just after someone has gone through the stress of having their home broken into and something that he had worked hard for taken by some complete bastard.
Maybe like you said above though i'm just being a ****
Phil - I don't think I can do anything to help but I'll be on the look out down this part of the country. The only way they are going to sell a Jones to someone who knows what they are buying is to be a long way from the UK (where Jones owners are few and friendly) and to someone who doesn't care it is stolen. Looking at your picture it looks likes you've got Jeff's modified Rohloff chainguide on there too - I'd suggest you look out for those kind of things being offered for sale. They might well have to dump the frame so try a 'give me my frame back no questions asked' appeal as a last resort? If you think I can help at all do feel free to email me. I tore a calf muscle on the weekend and I think your pain is worse.
Chainline, really does sound like you were targeted, sure i was too.
Did you have any door to door types round prior to the theft who may have seen in your garage? ANY ONE, no matter how legit they seemed?
I personally don't think it's "pikies" if they only took bikes, not random enough! This was also the opinion of my mate who's a top copper (CID i think)
I did have a door to door type & phoned the organisation he was representing - turned out cosher though?!
Thanks Guys,
The only people round was a seemingly nice guy off the forum who bought my Rohloff.
I'm sure I was targeted in terms of I live on a main road and people driving by could see I have mountain and road bikes, so I think they thought they would have a look see. I'm surprised they had kit to get through my Oxford Moterbike lock.
Like Biff says, likely the frame could get dumped or sold to someone who knows no better for a couple of hundred quid.
I thought about a reward or appeal but not sure where to make that appeal. I could give the local paper a call and see if they will print an article..rare bikes stolen etc, I would not want any details of my address putting out tho.
Why would a burglar take the child's bike?
Burglars have kids too. Might have been more valuable to him for personal use than the amount he'd get for fencing another bike?
I'm sure the local press could keep your location quiet....
Regarding the local press - how about adopting a PO box for replies to your advert?
Do you have any "big yellow storage" places round you - may be worth contacting them with a pic of the Jones to see if it has been brought in to be "stored"
Hell, what a loss! I really feel for you. Both of you.
Sorry to hear like all here I will keep a look out
btw sorry about ROFL he is a tosspot
Local paper and flyers a good option I reckon. PO Box or just buy a cheap PAYG phone and give that number out for any information. Is a fifty quid reward enough to have thieves shop each other? The more (local) people who know a [b]rare[/b] bike was stolen (they don't need to know its value) the better. Check with Jeff but I'd guess there are no more than six or so of your kind of bike in the UK? I reckon fencing rare stuff must be something thieves would rather avoid surely so get the message out there that it's unique - and they may as well drop it back in your garden at 3am. And if it's international/out-of-town professionals then let's hope the internet catches up with them. I appreciate prosecution [i]and[/i] recovery is the ideal outcome but just getting the bike back would work for me.
I reckon an ad in the HT wouldn't hurt, all information could be to the local nick or HT office, worth trying
Chainline - You said they took the fat wheel, did you get it wiht a "normal" wheel on the 135mm hub as well and if so did they take that as well?
If not you should contact Paul (hubs) to see how many have been sold to suppliers in the UK and if none have been sold, ask them to keep in touch if any retailer asks them for one as a special order. so you can follow it up as the scumbag might want to try and build up a thin wheel to flog it easier.
They stole it with a normal front wheel and left the fat one behind.



