Kona Sutra obviously, but what else? (Croix de Fer doesn't have panier tabs on the front fork 🙁 )
Salsa make some good stuff.
C'mon geoff - you know you want Ti......
Thorn?
Thorn hate disc brakes.
C'mon geoff - you know you want Ti......
Financial controller says no! 🙁
Whatabout them brodie bikes?
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[url= http://www.singularcycles.com/peregrine.html ]Singular Peregrine[/url].
http://www.tout-terrain.de/2/products/touring-bikes/silkroad/index.html
http://www.fahrradmanufaktur.de/?page_id=2065
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Devinci Caribou
Thorn are tools.
Vaya would look nice apart from those hideous dropouts and the stupid top tube.
Edinburgh Bikes Revolution Country Explorer.
The EBC one looks interesting, and a great price.
The sutra looks good, but I can't imagine liking the bar end shifters.
That's my thoughts on the Surly Cross-Check and LHT too, but users seem to get on with them just fine. I know that Mark hasn't had any problems adapting to his.
Fitting a rear rack and mudguards with discs is a pain. BoB trailer the way to go.
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Rack & mudguards was easy on my older Sutra and it's easier now as they moved the disc caliper between the seat- and chain-stays (and it comes "fully-equipped" anyway).
Biggest downside of the Sutra is that it's a bit lardy.
Cotic Roadrat. Not purpose built tourer obviously, and probably not suited for too heavy loads. Would need to switch fork if you want pannier mounts.
Or Salsa Fargo?
Roadrat is what I'm thinking of for myself too, winter trainer / tourer that's not afraid of a towpath or two.
If it is more off road than on then I would be thinking of a Karate Monkey, which is still on the cards 4 me too.
If it's on the cheap what about a Kona Dew Drop, not steel though. singular Gryphon if it floats your boat, or the Peregrine if you can afford it. For heavy weight the Surly LHT has to be the favourite, or Fargo maybe.
i love my Sutra and I think the bar end shifters are one of the best features.
ok its not lightweight and its no speed freak, but its sturdy,tracks really well and is very capable of a bit of off road.
Great fun to ride
Roadrat is what I'm thinking of for myself too, winter trainer / tourer that's not afraid of a towpath or two.
It will do that and much more. Build it up with skinny cross tyres and they're surprisingly good in the mud too. Great bikes - very versatile.
Biggest downside of the Sutra is that it's a bit lardy
We have to put this in context of course 😆
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Raleigh Sojourn?
IF Steel Independence?
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Might be a bit pricey mind
Vaya would look nice apart from those hideous dropouts and the stupid top tube
I quite like the dropouts. What's wrong with the top tube? You have me worried now. I have a frame on order and it should be here in a couple of weeks...
It slopes too mich for me. I am old school in that I don't need my drop bars super high.
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Cotic Roadrat. Not purpose built tourer obviously, and probably not suited for too heavy loads.
I sold mine partly becasue it was too flexy. Shocking with a trailer on, to be honest...
And the dropouts make it a pain in the ass to remove the rear wheel when you have mudguards and panniers on, which was another reason I got shot of it.
Not a steel frame but the Trek Portland has discs, easily takes mudguards and a rack and will pull a bob-yak.
Depends if you like brown though and the standard bontrager tyres a like riding on wood.
Not a steel frame either but fitted rack and full mudguards on a kona dew drop with only a little beding of a mudguard strut. Took all of an extra 15 mins.
Thorn hate disc brakes.
Thorn may hate disc brakes, but their newest offerings (Thorn Sherpa, Thorn Ripio and Thorn Raven 2.0) all take disc brakes.
"Croix de Fer doesn't have panier tabs on the front fork"
Next drop will have, but that's spring onwwards now sorry. Same for Day one. It's been a more popular touring bike than we expected tbh.