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Very happy with my FlareMax, but this looks lovely.
I'll be honest, it's nice but the Cotic's are prettier bikes imo. I'm waiting for the LS Flare and it's killing me!
quite pricy but very nice
I think they look great - not cheap but they're being built in Matlock rather than overseas so I guess there's costs for welding equipment, paint booths etc that need to be recouped.
It does look lovely.
It's not cheap, but being manufactured over here means you get a "custom" service so can tweak things like lengths and angles plus have it in any colour you want.
Is the £2500 for the frame including a shock? That frame costs the same as my bike....
Does anyone know where there Ti frames are made ?
Yeah, the 2500 includes a fancy shock. Still expensive, but similar to other UK made steel full sussers.
Maybe I need to ride one of these steel fs’ to find out what the fuss is about (won’t be buying one though due to cost - plus the wife would kill me).
They aren’t lighter than alloy or carbon and I can’t say I’ve ever felt my alloy one flex and I’ve taken some really optimistic lines at uplift days etc on it.
Are you paying as much for the steel image and brand?
Depends who you ask regarding performance, but I think a lot of the appeal is the aesthetic and the fact it's a small, local company.
Aren't you paying for the image and brand with all expensive frames? Just that this one is made in UK so costs a bit more.
True. I went with a small uk bike company too (albeit their frames are designed in the uk but built offshore but then the bikes are built up here) and they absolutely aren’t charging a premium. But then they aren’t using steel either.
I can absolutely understand getting a Stanton hardtail frame for the steel / geo / way they ride (would love one) but the fs just seems really expensive.
I chose my Rocket because I like the simple look of steel tubes, the fact that its also British is a bonus. £300 2nd hand (26"), happy days.
Most of my frames have been round tubes and box section, I just don't like all that fancy hydroforming.
Ti frames - hardtails at least, I believe are made in the Far East.
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Maybe I need to ride one of these steel fs’ to find out what the fuss is about (won’t be buying one though due to cost – plus the wife would kill me).
They aren’t lighter than alloy or carbon and I can’t say I’ve ever felt my alloy one flex and I’ve taken some really optimistic lines at uplift days etc on it.
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They aren't claiming to be light. The appeal for steel for me is partly how it looks, how it rides and it reminds me of my youth tearing about on nice cro-mo BMXs. If you just want a nice handling FS then alloy is fine. I wanted more than that this time.
Oh and the flex you don't feel on yours wont show up picking crap lines - it's not that kind of flex. When i'm riding through corners i can feel the bike give along it's length. It not only feels great but probably gives a bit more grip. Probably 😀
I forget which company it is, but I’m sure they said they’d gone with steel to get less flex in their suspension platform. I’m going to have to wrack my brain to try and remember which bike it is.
To make it more appealing to the audience here; I'm pretty certain Superstar now have nothing to do with the project - at one time they were making the CNC'ed back end.
Durability also comes into it, steel is far less brittle than alloy and more durable, if I ever build a super enduro gnarpoon it'll be with a steel frame.
@Joebristol Cy Cotic said there's less flex in the seat tube with the steel than with alloy, but there's definitely a wee bit long the length through the top/down tubes - this does seem the help with the tracking on the Rocket a little, the back wheel gets pinged about slightly less as a result (says smarter people than me, like Guy K).
Unlike the BB/whole frame torsional flex on the Croix de Fer, which just makes it pointless stomping on the pedals because the rotors rub on the pads so much :-/
Maybe that was what I was thinking of!
tallpaul-as my frame has got a lifetime warranty I’m not too fussed / concerned about durability 😀. Plus it’ll be out of date shortly when one of the main brands launches ‘super boost’ and start a whole new cycle of standards......
Looking forward to the 27.5 ones when they come out (hopefully next year) love my Slackline and really looking forward to having a go on one of these.
I guess they are on the expensive side but for £2500 that does come with an Ohlins shock which are about £600 on their own plus it's made all in house in the UK. Love that but that's just me, for some that might not be important
The Stanton is a switchFS is a great ride, great climber and it goes down hill like a freight train. Yes its not cheap, very few good FS frames are, even fewer that are built in the UK. I really like what Dan and his team (Yo Slim !) are doing and think its worth the cash if you believe in their vision, which I do. You wont be able to visit the Santacruz factory to discuss paint or decal options would you. What they offer at Stanton is a quite personal service from a small independent UK company. I had a demo on one at Ardrock, I was very impressed, and its a super looking bike. I hope to get one next year, when I retire my stumpy. In an ideal world i would have a ti hardtail as well!
I have to say how good to deal with the guys at Stanton are. Patient, very good at walking you through their range and the different options there were. Also very welcoming when you go to look at the factory and you get introduced to everyone.
On top of that, the availability for demos is probably second to none, the products seem first rate with loads of indications that a huge amount of input goes into each model before production.
I can’t imagine my experience is unusual.